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Old December 27th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #5461
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does anybody have a idea howmuch kilometers of the A1 will be opened in the middle of 2014??
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Old December 27th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #5462
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does anybody have a idea howmuch kilometers of the A1 will be opened in the middle of 2014??
Nobody knows how many km of A1 will be opened in the middle of 2014.
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Old December 27th, 2012, 03:03 PM   #5463
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Old December 27th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #5464
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Old December 27th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #5465
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Comarnic-Brasov was tendered in PPP, but what about the Comarnic-Ploiesti section? I might have missed something but it looks to me Romania is building a motorway section that starts and ends at "nowwhere" again...
comarnic - ploiesti is 2x2 road, so not important for now
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Old December 27th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #5466
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i think in the middle of 2014 the A1 will be opened to 60 per cent.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #5467
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I think that we should not make any assumptions regarding motorway openings in 2014. Nobody knows that. Not even the prime minister or the road company director.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #5468
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Comarnic-Brasov was tendered in PPP, but what about the Comarnic-Ploiesti section? I might have missed something but it looks to me Romania is building a motorway section that starts and ends at "nowwhere" again...
DN1 Comarnic-Brasov is one of the most heavilly congested sections of road in Romania, being already over capacity for many years now. Traffic jams kilometres long are a daily reality. It is a 1+1 road winding through the mountains, conecting Bucharest to Brasov and beyond, in Transilvania. It also goes through a few very popular towns/sky resorts that have no beltways. It's so bad that truck traffic is forbidden and must detour through a very windy and longer road (DN1A) during the weekends and hollidays. On the other hand, the road between Ploiesti and Comarnic is fully 2+2 and has plenty of spare capacity for the next years. And after Brasov, traffic diverges into several directions.

Trust me, this is NOT a section that starts and ends at nowhere This motorway is one of the most needed pieces of road in the country.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #5469
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Thx for clearing that up guys!
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Old December 28th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #5470
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I wanted to ask something about motorway construction in Romania. Where does the money come from - only from national budget or also from EU funds? And what is the percentage of the EU funds in the overall costs of a highway? In Bulgaria for example the EU money covers 80% from a highway's costs.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 12:25 PM   #5471
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I wanted to ask something about motorway construction in Romania. Where does the money come from - only from national budget or also from EU funds? And what is the percentage of the EU funds in the overall costs of a highway? In Bulgaria for example the EU money covers 80% from a highway's costs.
A1 (Hungarian border-Sibiu-and-hopefully-in-the-distant-future-Pitești ), A2 (Bucharest-Constanța) and A4 (Constanța bypass) are/were built using EU funds. For all lots of A1 under construction right now (HUN border-Sibiu, more or less) EU covers up to 85% of the costs. The same is for A4.
But for some older parts of A2, different types of financing (hence different percentages of co-financing) have been used, including EU structural funds for pre-accession (ISPA). The same for Pitești bypass, while A1 Bucharest-Pitești, the oldest one, was built under communists.
A3 (Bucharest-Ploiești, Câmpia-Turzii Cluj and Suplacu de Barcău-Hungarian border) was/is built using only money from the state budget.

However, due to irregularities here, EU funding for Transports is suspended for the moment...
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Old December 29th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #5472
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Bucuresti-Fundulea (27 km) of A2 shall enter into deep rehabilitation works almost 10 years from completion. The section is concrete covered and lately has grown quite frequent wholes, especially after the recent winter treatment against heavy snow-fall. It will be interesting whether the section will be covered in asphalt.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #5473
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Bucuresti-Fundulea (27 km) of A2 shall enter into deep rehabilitation works almost 10 years from completion. The section is concrete covered and lately has grown quite frequent wholes, especially after the recent winter treatment against heavy snow-fall. It will be interesting whether the section will be covered in asphalt.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 10:13 PM   #5474
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Ten yrs ago motorway was made of concrete?
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Old December 29th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #5475
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Yes, holes.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #5476
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Romania completed 125 km of motorway in 2012

Currently Romania has 530 km of motorway.

2013 expected openings: 127 km.
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http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential...isc-0-2014.htm

here they say 230 km possible
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:16 AM   #5478
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From the existing discussions on motorway funding, it's unlikely that anything will be opened on A3 in 2013.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:20 AM   #5479
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@LeClerk, there's a huge difference between "no money available" and "no money budgeted". Because it is absolutely true that during the 1990 the budget for transport in general was insignificant and insufficient to even maintain the existing infrastructure. Let alone building a new one.

But is absolutely NOT TRUE that during the nineties there were no money! In 1990 Romania had ZERO national debts and 3 billion USD in claims. By the end of the nineties Romania had already 10 billion USD national debt and only 1.5 billion claims. And this is not considering the non-refundable funds received from EU for upgrading the transport infrastructure.

So, we had a lot money! Lot of money! But we chose to spend them recklessly, without any consideration to our own future. The problems we're bumping into today are the result of that lack of vision in the nineties!

It wouldn't have been necessary to build 100 km stretches of motorway in 2 years. Just a steady pace of 20-30 km every 2 years would have been great. We could have afford that without thinking. Bear in mind that the construction prices and land value in the nineties were way-way lower then today.

But, that's history now. Would be great if we won't make the same mistake again in the future.



I think many people don't see the huge progress made their own life, let alone the country as a whole. But it is true: Romania made a huge progress in the past 10 years at an astonishing pace. Of course, a lot of things could have and should have been better. But we tend to easily forget were and how we were in 2000.
My opinion is that in the 90s Romania was not in a very good (rating) position to get international loans, despite the reduced debt ratio.

However, it is true Romania could use loans to finance motorway construction, and I wonder why we don't do that on a larger scale - AFAIK Romania only took small loans from development banks for motorway construction, ussualy to match EU funding for that.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #5480
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Comarnic-Brasov was tendered in PPP, but what about the Comarnic-Ploiesti section? I might have missed something but it looks to me Romania is building a motorway section that starts and ends at "nowwhere" again...
I see other forumers already answered.

That section is a very good 2x2 road, with very short urban sections, and is not in bad need for an alternative for the coming decade IMO.
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