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Old January 24th, 2013, 11:03 AM   #5561
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CNADNR posted the annoucement for the concession of works on A0 South (48 km), as well as concession of maintenance works for Bucharest-Constanta and BUcharest-Pitesti motorways.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #5562
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Great news. Could you please specify between which road is the section for concession?
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Old January 24th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #5563
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The concesion is for the construction of A0 Bucharest ringroad, south section, between A1 and A2, as well as maitenance and taxation of A1 from Pitesti to Bucharest and the entire A2 from Bucharest to Constanta. It's not clear if they are also supposed to tax the Bucharest south ringroad, which would be absurd IMO.

BTW, the tender was lauched about a month ago, and has already been delayed 2 times.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #5564
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It's the south section of the Bucharest ring, in red, in between A and A2:

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Old January 24th, 2013, 10:56 PM   #5565
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Thank's for the super fast answers! Thumbs up for the project!
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Old January 24th, 2013, 11:44 PM   #5566
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The concesion is for the construction of A0 Bucharest ringroad, south section, between A1 and A2, as well as maitenance and taxation of A1 from Pitesti to Bucharest and the entire A2 from Bucharest to Constanta. It's not clear if they are also supposed to tax the Bucharest south ringroad, which would be absurd IMO.

BTW, the tender was lauched about a month ago, and has already been delayed 2 times.
Hopefully, the postponement is related to improvements made to the tender documentation, so hopefully we'll get a flawless procedure and finally an undisputed investor.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #5567
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It's the south section of the Bucharest ring, in red, in between A and A2:
So this project means that the current Bucharest ring will not be extended to 2x2 in its entirety anymore? Why bother build the north section if so ?
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Old January 28th, 2013, 09:43 AM   #5568
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Bucharest Ring will be extended to 2x2, sometimes in the future.

A0 South will not remove that. Still, we are a long way from there.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #5569
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Idea proposed at Winter Command meeting: ROAD TUNNEL THROUGH THE CARPATHIANS


Prahova County Council President Mircea Cosma asked Deputy Prime Minister Liviu Dragnea on Saturday to consider the construction of a road tunnel through the Carpathians, an idea that came to him while he was on the road that crosses the Oituz Pass. Dragnea answered that it will be possible if “God helps us.”

“Deputy Prime Minister, thank you for chairing the Command with skill and I managed to reach Ploiesti, from Chisinau, in 16 hours yesterday. I have only one request: let’s build a tunnel through the Carpathians, let’s include it in the Plan for National and Rural Development, I climbed through Oituz late last evening and I realized that despite the number of miners this country had we didn’t build a road tunnel through the Carpathians in order to shorten these roads, to move towards an improvement,” Cosma told Dragnea.

“It’s included in the development plan. The country had a lot of miners it’s just that in the last 23 years the money were squandered and the development was not based on strategic plans, as you very well know. If God helps us and if we remain healthy in body and mind we will do what you’re saying too,” Deputy Prime Minister Dragnea answered.
http://www.bucharestherald.ro/dailye...he-carpathians
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Bucharest Ring will be extended to 2x2, sometimes in the future.

A0 South will not remove that. Still, we are a long way from there.
Start two things, finish none.... great
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Old January 28th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #5571
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Start two things, finish none.... great
That's how we do things here.

Now seriously speaking, A0 south should not affect Bucharest Ring South, because the first will be financed with private money (if a contract is signed) while the second will be financed from the budget (AFAIK it is U/C at intersections).
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Old January 28th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #5572
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Why is A3 from Bucharest towards Ploiesti so east-curved? Wouldn't it be better to put it west of Otopeni and Snagov, similar to the railroad? That would be much shorter/cheper.

Or is it also the beginning of Bucharest - Buzau/Focsani motorway?
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:10 PM   #5573
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Why is A3 from Bucharest towards Ploiesti so east-curved? Wouldn't it be better to put it west of Otopeni and Snagov, similar to the railroad? That would be much shorter/cheper.

Or is it also the beginning of Bucharest - Buzau/Focsani motorway?
That!

Also, west of Otopeni there is DN1, which is 2x3 there, pretty sufficient combined with A3.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:27 PM   #5574
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Besides, the A3 entrance in Bucharest currently chosen is the only one that allows the motorway to end closer to the centre. It uses the unbuild land in Voluntary town and ends right near the middle ring of the city (incomplete for now); that will allow eficient dispersal of traffic. You couldn't do that on the north-west side without serious clearing of houses, and a large urban boulevard that would have to be build by the city, which has no funds to cover this kind of project.

The original project, 10 years ago, was of the west side, A3 continuing with Poligrafiei boulevard, and reaching Piata Presei Libere/Free Press square, and then to the centre via Kiseleff boulevard. Seeing how traffic is today, we're glad they didn't stick to that plan .
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That's how we do things here.

Now seriously speaking, A0 south should not affect Bucharest Ring South, because the first will be financed with private money (if a contract is signed) while the second will be financed from the budget (AFAIK it is U/C at intersections).
In plain Romanian tradition, shifting interest towards A0 would mean the current ring 2x2 project would be abandoned, for sure

In regards of the progress on the current ring, it's all stopped for now , I travel from A2 towards A3 weekly and sometomes A2 towards the Girugiu exit (Jilava) and except some maintenance work (badly implemented also, already the pavement is affected by the snow), no real 2x2 work.

oh well......
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In regards of the progress on the current ring, it's all stopped for now , I travel from A2 towards A3 weekly and sometomes A2 towards the Girugiu exit (Jilava) and except some maintenance work (badly implemented also, already the pavement is affected by the snow), no real 2x2 work.

oh well......
They cut funding last year for the south ring. The only expansion works we'll see for south ring, when the warm weather returns, is at junctions, which will be enlarged to 2x2 and made non-grade, hopefully.
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It's the south section of the Bucharest ring, in red, in between A and A2:

It looks like Bucharest is going to have 2 ring roads? If yes, I am very impressed...
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Old January 29th, 2013, 06:48 AM   #5578
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It looks like Bucharest is going to have 2 ring roads? If yes, I am very impressed...
Please don't be. 2/3 of the inner ring is only a 1+1 road.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 07:30 AM   #5579
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It looks like Bucharest is going to have 2 ring roads? If yes, I am very impressed...
Actually, Bucharest will have 3 rings:

1. the urban ring which is operational but does not appear on that map

2. the current ring proper, which is 1/3 2x2 and 2/3 1x1 and that needs to be expanded to 2x2 entirelly

3. the planned motorway ring in red and pink on that map

On this map belw, the outer ring is the existing Bucharest Ring at #2 above:

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Old January 29th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #5580
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Few sad pics of the abandoned works for A3 motorway between villages Satu Barbă and Suplacu de Barcău:

- viaduct near Satu Barbă:




- embankments in the oilfield at Suplacu de Barcău:




- warning pane signaling the works...

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