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Old May 10th, 2013, 09:27 AM   #5841
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It certainly is a risk. But it might also be the only way for the contractor to make any profits from the exploitation of this highway.
There are some good reasons for building this highway:
1. The Danube Bridge at Calafat (Vidin) will bring additional traffic to a route that is at times operating at about 80-90% of its max capacity.
2. The repairs on the national route 6 (DN6) between Craiova and Timisoara - which ist part of the mainstream of pan-European Corridor IV - has made this route quiteinteresting. It is nowadays shorter to travel from Bucharest to Timisoara via Pitesti-Craiova than via Pitesti-Sibiu-Deva-Lugoj (the other branch of Corridor IV). Building this highway will further shorten the trip. Now it can be done in 7-8 hours. With the highway completed it will be about 6-7 hours.
3. They have to build this highway. It was one of the conditions set by Ford. for investing in the plant from Craiova.
Forecasts are at about 9-10k cars per day after completion.
If they had divided the construction in two or more sectors, the revenues would have been divided between the contractors, and the build costlier.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #5842
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Is the entire section going to be authorized to only one company? I think it would be a mistake!
It's a concession (an investment agreement mostly), not a construction agreement. The contractor also brings the money for the construction works.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #5843
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It certainly is a risk. But it might also be the only way for the contractor to make any profits from the exploitation of this highway.
There are some good reasons for building this highway:
1. The Danube Bridge at Calafat (Vidin) will bring additional traffic to a route that is at times operating at about 80-90% of its max capacity.
2. The repairs on the national route 6 (DN6) between Craiova and Timisoara - which ist part of the mainstream of pan-European Corridor IV - has made this route quiteinteresting. It is nowadays shorter to travel from Bucharest to Timisoara via Pitesti-Craiova than via Pitesti-Sibiu-Deva-Lugoj (the other branch of Corridor IV). Building this highway will further shorten the trip. Now it can be done in 7-8 hours. With the highway completed it will be about 6-7 hours.
3. They have to build this highway. It was one of the conditions set by Ford. for investing in the plant from Craiova.
Forecasts are at about 9-10k cars per day after completion.
If they had divided the construction in two or more sectors, the revenues would have been divided between the contractors, and the build costlier.
Both Dacia and Ford can reach a production of 6 k or more cars/day (Dacia is already at over 3 k/day, Ford is at over 1 k/day and going up). At this rate, this means 1,110 trucks/day on the road generated by both Dacia and Ford alone. This leaving aside the other plants there (the huge Pirreli plant at Slatina producing tires for the entire Europe and the dozens other car part palnts in the region).
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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #5844
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It's a concession (an investment agreement mostly), not a construction agreement. The contractor also brings the money for the construction works.
Okey, I see! Thank you!
How collection of the tolls is planned, or it is still unknown? Via Rovinieta!?
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:12 PM   #5845
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Ford is at over 1 k/day and going up
More like 300+/day You're talking about the engines at 1k+/day
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Old May 10th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #5846
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I remember I read that Ford accelerated its production significantly and made 100 k cars in Q1 2013.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #5847
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Okey, I see! Thank you!
How collection of the tolls is planned, or it is still unknown? Via Rovinieta!?
According to some info referring to the tender book, the toll should be EUR 2.4 / 100 km or EUR 2.9 for the entire lenght (121 km). If this is true, then there will be toll gates at entrances and exits from motorway.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 08:29 AM   #5848
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According to this article there will not be gates, instead a special vignette will be used.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 09:54 AM   #5849
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The article is about a TV interview with the Transport Minister about to start right now, at 10:00. That'll be interesting to watch.
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I watched the interview. A few conclusions:

- by Oct-Nov all the concession contracts, currently under competitive negociation, for A0 South, Comarnic-Brasov, and Craiova-Pitesti will be signed
- the construction for these concessions is planned to be completed by 2016
- the toll for concession motorways will be around EUR 3/100 km
- tolling will be totally electronic and without barriers: there will be cameras on motorways scanning the number plates
- the Bechtel contract for Transilvania Motorway will be terminated soon by agreement with Bechtel and the RO Gov; for the section Bors-Nadasel there will be a concession too, after the contract termination with Bechtel
- 142 km of new motorway will be opened this year, all on CIV
- Deva-Orastie will be opened this month

@ MichiH: the minister (who was also in charge of Daimler investment at Sebes) also mentioned there are negotiations with certain car producers for plants in Romania, but refused to name them for confidentiality obligations.


Concessions planned in yellow:

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Old May 12th, 2013, 11:00 AM   #5851
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3 cents per kilometer, that is a good deal. I don't mind paying some tolls, but I always found the 10 - 15 cents per kilometer in France is too high for a long-distance rural motorway.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 11:18 AM   #5852
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The EUR 3/km will be for cars. For trucks it will probably be EUR 9/100 km.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #5853
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How does this scanning of number plates work? You just get a bill at the end of the month for kilometre of motorway used? How about foreign number plates? Is there such a system already in use in some other country?
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3 cents per kilometer, that is a good deal. I don't mind paying some tolls, but I always found the 10 - 15 cents per kilometer in France is too high for a long-distance rural motorway.
Sounds cheap to me, but is it really so different from France after local incomes are taken into account?
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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:05 PM   #5855
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How does this scanning of number plates work? You just get a bill at the end of the month for kilometre of motorway used? How about foreign number plates? Is there such a system already in use in some other country?
License plate toll is very common in the United States, Canada, Singapore and Norway. The technology is in use for years (ANPR) but the main issue is getting toll bills from foreign drivers paid.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 03:27 PM   #5856
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Are the exits already built on the section Timisoara - Arad??
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Old May 12th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #5857
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@ MichiH: the minister (who was also in charge of Daimler investment at Sebes) also mentioned there are negotiations with certain car producers for plants in Romania, but refused to name them for confidentiality obligations.
I can confirm this. I mean, Stroe(Dacia) confirmed this
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Old May 12th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #5859
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How does this scanning of number plates work? You just get a bill at the end of the month for kilometre of motorway used? How about foreign number plates? Is there such a system already in use in some other country?
The same vignette is paid today: printed vouchers (frlm most gas stations), SMS, electronic vouchers.
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I can confirm this. I mean, Stroe(Dacia) confirmed this
Yes, I also read the interview with Stroe. BTW: he said that in his position of head of the Romanian Automotive Producer Association, not as Dacia Director.
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