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Old September 23rd, 2013, 11:23 PM   #6501
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They're repairing it as we speak. The entire stretch from Baia Mare to Iacobeni, on the intersection with DN17. The works should be done by next year.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #6502
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If they rebuild the DN 18 as well, else ... you just don't want to see your own car on this road.

http://www.monitorulsv.ro/foto/0QkeTOyR/4#galerie

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DN18 - the road number must be coming from the following observation: 18 potholes per 1 square meter.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 02:59 PM   #6503
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still no news concerning Timisoara- Lugoj Lot 2, Lugoj- Deva Lot 2,3,4, Arad- Nadlac Lot 1,2. Of course the current Gov is dreaming/lying about mountain motorways
back to the cruel reality, if they don't sign the contract for the above sections, till the end of the year, we shall lose the EU funding program 2007-2013.
If they don't start the works soon is out of question to complete untill end 2015. At least the difficult sections of Deva- Lugoj.
let's hope they will be able to complete at least the motorways started by the previous Go, currently still u/c otherwise will be a big mess.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 03:29 PM   #6504
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They're repairing it as we speak. The entire stretch from Baia Mare to Iacobeni, on the intersection with DN17. The works should be done by next year.
I was driving the DN 18 from Maramures to Bucovina during the summer of 2012, and I noticed signs that with the help of EU funds the road would be reconstructed in 2011/2012, but at that time no work in progress to see. Did anyone witness people actually repairing the road and making new asphalt?
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Old September 24th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #6505
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@alwn, AFAIK Nadlac-Arad lot 1 has had both complaints solved by the justice system. The winners are Astaldi-Max Bogl. The contract hasn't been signed yet, there still are 9 days in which the contesters can appeal, which they probably will...


As for DN18, we've had accounts a few months ago of works on the first two sections: Baia Mare-Sighetu Marmatiei and Sighetu M-Moisei; I don't recall if there were pictures or not. Sadly, we don't have forumers that travel here very often, so that road is a bit of a mistery.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #6506
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Sadly, we don't have forumers that travel here very often, so that road is a bit of a mistery.
Everybody is avoiding this road curently. My father told me that a friend of his drove there one mounth ago and it was bad, but thats all I know about ...
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Old September 25th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #6507
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still no news concerning Timisoara- Lugoj Lot 2, Lugoj- Deva Lot 2,3,4, Arad- Nadlac Lot 1,2. Of course the current Gov is dreaming/lying about mountain motorways
back to the cruel reality, if they don't sign the contract for the above sections, till the end of the year, we shall lose the EU funding program 2007-2013.
If they don't start the works soon is out of question to complete untill end 2015.
Nope!! N+3=end 2016
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:54 AM   #6508
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Romanian MFE hires seven EIB experts to provide consultancy on transports and environment projects implementing
Thursday, September 26, 2013

The European Funds Ministry (MFE) signed an agreement with the European Investment Bank (EIB) for hiring seven EIB experts for improving the implementing of the projects in the transports and environment sectors, funded from European funds.

The value of the agreement signed stands at 7.5 million euros, an amount covering the payment of the experts over a two-year period, but also the payment of some services engaged by EIB with third parties, reads a MFE release. The agreement is funded from European funds, through the Technical Assistance Operational Programme.

The EIB experts will provide consultancy to the Management Authority of the Sectoral Operational Programme Transports, the Department for Infrastructure Projects and Foreign Investments, the Management Authority of the Sectoral Operational Programme Environment, but also to MFE.

They will work as independent consultants and will provide support in all the stages of project implementing in the mentioned sectors: from the offer launching to the facility exploitation.

EIB Vice President Mihai Tanasescu, European Funds Minister Eugen Teodorovici, Transports Minister Ramona Manescu, Environment and Climate Changes Minister Rovana Plumb, namely the representative of the Department for Infrastructure Projects and Foreign Investments, Secretary of State Alexandru Nastase, signed the agreement on Tuesday.
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The real resons why the Chinese dropped Comarnic-Brasov motorway:

1. The Ro gov did not accept the (extreme) conditions required by the Chinese company (China Communications Construction Company Ltd ): materials exclusively from China and tax free (!!), workforce only from China.

2. Ro gov doubts the technical capacity of the Chinese company to deliver quality.

The remaining bidders for Comarnic-Brasov are: Vinci-Strabag-Aktor, Impregilo-Salini and UMB-Tehnostrade.

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Old September 26th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #6510
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Nobody was going to haul rocks and aggregate and asphalt All the way from China were they???

If they do let the Chinese at it it will be on a road section that is not formally tendered and with EU companies up against the Chinese (and after the EU funding and build schedule to 2020 is agreed this year as many other countries have already done, quite a few countries have published their priorities and plans in the last 3 weeks. ) .
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Old September 26th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #6511
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the due diligence and independent verification of that article=0. Serbia is in Europe, if not in the Union yet.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 02:56 PM   #6512
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Serbia is in Europe, if not in the Union yet.
Europe is a common shorthand for the Union in English.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 03:03 PM   #6513
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Serbia has not yet adopted EU Directives on :

a) Public Procurement
b) The Environment

When it does it must implement them from that point. When it adopts all EU Law it is ready for membership.

Romania had adopted (most of) these directives BEFORE the famous Bechtel deal which is why it got into trouble.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #6514
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The real resons why the Chinese dropped Comarnic-Brasov motorway:
1. The Ro gov did not accept the (extreme) conditions required by the Chinese company (China Communications Construction Company Ltd ): materials exclusively from China and tax free (!!), workforce only from China.
Comarnic- Brasov is a PPP and chinese don't build PPP.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #6515
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Nope!! N+3=end 2016
will see. It was not approved yet
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Old September 26th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #6516
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Serbia has not yet adopted EU Directives on :

a) Public Procurement
b) The Environment

When it does it must implement them from that point. When it adopts all EU Law it is ready for membership.

Romania had adopted (most of) these directives BEFORE the famous Bechtel deal which is why it got into trouble.
A lot of environmental protection papers we had to prepare to get money from creditors (WB,EIB,EBRD) for our highways. ARUP is supervisor for environmental protection on all constructions sites. link, only in serbian, http://koridorisrbije.rs/lat/zastita-zivotne-sredine
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #6517
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Nobody was going to haul rocks and aggregate and asphalt All the way from China were they???

If they do let the Chinese at it it will be on a road section that is not formally tendered and with EU companies up against the Chinese (and after the EU funding and build schedule to 2020 is agreed this year as many other countries have already done, quite a few countries have published their priorities and plans in the last 3 weeks. ) .
There are imports of cement and steel from China into Romania, let alone other smaller construction materials. Of course they'll not bring the aggregate, but they can import most construction materials from China, as well as the workforce. This may be the way to build cheap.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #6518
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There are imports of cement and steel from China into Romania, let alone other smaller construction materials. Of course they'll not bring the aggregate, but they can import most construction materials from China, as well as the workforce. This may be the way to build cheap.
Of course the Turks would be the same if they got the contract, easy for them to import workers concrete and steel. Cheap is not always bad quality, the Chinese and Turks are well able to work to EU standards.
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