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Old February 27th, 2014, 11:40 PM   #7441
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Plus we have Suplacu de Barcau - Bors (64 km) section which is about 45-50% completed by Bechtel, but works are abandoned.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 08:11 AM   #7442
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Le Clerk, before trying to further "explain" your theory (and continuing to bring no proof whatsoever), please explain the following: lot 1 of Brasov ringroad is being retendered as we speak (the winner supposed to be announced this month), after it was cancelled almost 1 year ago. Guess who was the original contractor for that one? Yup, Alpine Bau, the same builder on Nadlac-Arad lot 2. Both contracts were terminated at the same time for the same reason: bankruptcy.

So one project was quickly reevaluated and retendered with no problems, while the other is still on hold for, as you claim, some bogus, unheard of common EU law (??) insolvency procedures for a company that went BANKRUPT . Besides the logic fail, could you please explain why is one contract more special than the other? I'd love to know
You are insisting in a stupid manner in a matter that we do not have what it is called INSIDER INFORMATION. At least, I don't, so I was just trying to explain the possible causes of delay.

For the last time, the insolvency procedure is rule by the mother ****** court, not the Government. The fact that the court may have decided something else with the Alpine project in Brasov means exactly shit to this process. This is not mathematics we are discussing.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 08:39 AM   #7443
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You are insisting in a stupid manner in a matter that we do not have what it is called INSIDER INFORMATION. At least, I don't, so I was just trying to explain the possible causes of delay.

For the last time, the insolvency procedure is rule by the mother ****** court, not the Government. The fact that the court may have decided something else with the Alpine project in Brasov means exactly shit to this process. This is not mathematics we are discussing.
That is pure conjecture then.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 10:52 AM   #7444
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somebody posted this on a hungarian site.

http://www.zf.ro/zf-24/pentru-prima-...resti-12162263

it says you are ready with A1 nadlac-arad in december. strangely, it also says that M43 will be ready in december too -did i miss something? i still know about september 30

(i google translated it, so maybe i just misunderstood something)

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Old March 1st, 2014, 12:18 PM   #7445
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That is pure conjecture then.
No. According to the law, it's the court which decides what happens with the contracts signed by a company in insolvency. I am not saying it happened one way or another because I do not have particular info, I am only saying there is a possibility that this contract may have some complications from this point of view. That was my initial point, vieweing how LOT1 was fasttracked in tender, and LOT2 was not - LOT2 being the one with insolvency issues.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 05:50 PM   #7446
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(i google translated it, so maybe i just misunderstood something)
you understand that right, it says december

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Old March 1st, 2014, 05:59 PM   #7447
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No. According to the law, it's the court which decides what happens with the contracts signed by a company in insolvency. I am not saying it happened one way or another because I do not have particular info, I am only saying there is a possibility that this contract may have some complications from this point of view. That was my initial point, vieweing how LOT1 was fasttracked in tender, and LOT2 was not - LOT2 being the one with insolvency issues.

i don't mind reading ppls analysis and links . it is the reason i read here.

regarding this pecica arad disaster you have no information, maybe some sort of analysis. that is what you are saying. you are claiming to be able to make a qualified guess or something.

i want real information and the reasons.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:53 AM   #7448
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http://www.promotor.ro/masini-noi/op...aniei-11750148

Le Clerk, what do you think about?
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Old March 7th, 2014, 01:38 PM   #7449
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The media does not believe that some announced projects are fundable by the EU as they are not Ten-T EU routes. How very surprising.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #7450
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4-months old article...
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Old March 9th, 2014, 09:09 PM   #7451
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A1 Motorway, Arad bypass, section paralel with Arad Airport runway (map). Far away you can see the interchange with Arad-Nadlac motorway.


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Old March 12th, 2014, 10:06 AM   #7452
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i don't mind reading ppls analysis and links . it is the reason i read here.

regarding this pecica arad disaster you have no information, maybe some sort of analysis. that is what you are saying. you are claiming to be able to make a qualified guess or something.

i want real information and the reasons.
Are you still waiting for those?
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Old March 12th, 2014, 10:10 AM   #7453
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I don't bother to read. It looks like bogus info.

On another line of thought, on top of the former cuts in infrastructure investments, it looks like Romania is going to increase its military budget to around 2% of GDP or more, from current 1.3%, on account of events in neighboring Ukraine. Only this year, they'll buy USD 1 billion worth of SA missiles, on an impromptu announcement made by the defence ministry a few days ago. So, forget about non-EU investments in infrastructure. Blame it on the shitty region. When there's war, investment into infrastructure is a luxury.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 10:56 AM   #7454
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Are you still waiting for those?

yes still waiting....i am thinking about putting together an information request. i know that since astaldi max boegl is already working on the adjacent lot, pecica arad will also be finalized.

rather ridiculous situation. if you look back i photographed the dilapidating dormant alpine interchange and works, so i really know how long they have been idling and how much is going to waste.

my point is not to get into contradictory debates. you were rather aggressively trying to shut down the discussion on this topic without reliable information, just specialist knowledge, that may very well be accurate. but never should avenues for investigation and information be left unused, and there is no reason to get irritated about peoples legitimate need to be timely and correctly be informed(from the highest levels if need be) about utterly public projects. it is public funds that are being wasted. we need to know what the options were, are, why,what decisions are being taken, by whom, why and what lies ahead. we need as much information as we can get. we won't get it by being meek and silent so if we are too incredulous or curious, that's part of the skeptic posture needed.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 03:30 PM   #7455
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What sections of a motorway is building right know in Romania ?
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See http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1688981 or http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1687231.
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I don't bother to read. It looks like bogus info.

On another line of thought, on top of the former cuts in infrastructure investments, it looks like Romania is going to increase its military budget to around 2% of GDP or more, from current 1.3%, on account of events in neighboring Ukraine. Only this year, they'll buy USD 1 billion worth of SA missiles, on an impromptu announcement made by the defence ministry a few days ago. So, forget about non-EU investments in infrastructure. Blame it on the shitty region. When there's war, investment into infrastructure is a luxury.
Where is the motorway Comarnic- Brasov? It was supposed to see the broke ground the next month

Craiova- Pitesti?

Where is the EU approval for financing Sibiu- Brasov or Brasov- Bacau? You was overoptimistic that EU will include these projects in 2014-2020 planning


and now you are blaming the war? )) well your war theory doesn't make any sense if you look at Polish or Bulgarian sections.

Btw, when the master plan will be finaly approved I wouldn't be very surprised to find there Lugoj- Caransebes- Tr Severin- Calafat and no trace of Sibiu- Brasov- Bacau
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Old March 16th, 2014, 11:14 AM   #7458
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Where is the motorway Comarnic- Brasov? It was supposed to see the broke ground the next month

Craiova- Pitesti?

Where is the EU approval for financing Sibiu- Brasov or Brasov- Bacau? You was overoptimistic that EU will include these projects in 2014-2020 planning


and now you are blaming the war? )) well your war theory doesn't make any sense if you look at Polish or Bulgarian sections.

Btw, when the master plan will be finaly approved I wouldn't be very surprised to find there Lugoj- Caransebes- Tr Severin- Calafat and no trace of Sibiu- Brasov- Bacau
Jee, your logic is beyond me...

Next months works are not there yet?! Seriously?! How about we discuss that next month, and not a month before?!

PS: there is a strong demand for hiring in the construction field in ther region, as well as for truck drivers.

As to the spendings, haven't you gotten used to infrastructure money being diverted from infrastructure to other fields?! Do you think that a doubling of the defence budget this year won't affect other budgetary sections, transport including?!
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BTW: site preparation order has been issued 5 days ago by the CNADNR for the Comarnic-Brasov site.

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Another good news: CNADNR has commissioned the FS tender for Sibiu-Pitesti motorway on March 3. . The funds ~ EUR 28 m are ensured by the EU.

Works are expected to start in 2016.
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