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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:14 AM   #8581
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Wasn't Cunta-Saliste the section that had a delay in opening in the first place?
Btw thank you for the correction on the opening dates of Deva-Lugoj, the 2016 date never really seemed feasible.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 08:15 AM   #8582
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In other news, yesterday were open bids made for construction of two small portion of A3 at Comarnic and Rasnov - the red ones in this picture:



SOURCE (in roumanian)
This is strange. 10 bids for LOT 2 and 1 bid for LOT 1. I understand LOT1 is difficult and an intro to the mountain section of A3, but only 1 bidder ?! And even that one Romanian ?!



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Lot 1 (4 km) km 111+300 - km 115+300

Est value: EUR 38 m

1. S.C. SPEDITION UMB S.R.L. - S.C. TEHNOSTRADE S.R.L. - 152.592.503,20 lei (91,5%)

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Lot 2 (6,3 km ) din cadrul sectorului Predeal - Cristian: km 162+300 - km 168+600 (si Drum de Legatura)

Est value: EUR 34 m

1. Asocierea Copisa Constructora Pirenaica - S.C. Copisa Constructii S.R.L. - S.C. Via Carpatia Consult S.R.L. - 92.924.613,16 (62%)

2. Asocierea PST GROUP JSC si Asociatii - 112.472.168,10 (75%)

3. Asocierea S.C. APLENSIDE S.R.L. - SC SPECIALIST CONSULTING S.R.L. - 112.513.572,61 (75,1%)

4. Asocierea ITINERA S.p.A. - RETTER Projectmanagement S.r.L. - SINA S.p.A. - 112.923.454,30 (75,4%)

5. MAX BOEGL ROMANIA S.R.L. - 117.141.758,46 (78,2%)

6. Asocierea S.C. SPEDITION UMB S.R.L. - S.C. TEHNOSTRADE S.R.L - 117.191.784,00 (78,2%)

7. S.C. STRABAG S.R.L. - 123.689.615,34 (82,5%)

8. Tirrena Scavi S.p.A. - 133.872.265,20 (89,3%)

9. Asocierea AKTOR S.A. - EURO CONSTRUCT TRADING '98 S.R.L. - 140.366.770,85 (93,46%)

10. Asocierea R-HID - Kelet-Ut - EuroAszfalt - 149.795.584,00 (99,93%)
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Old October 15th, 2015, 08:35 AM   #8583
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Constructor of Orastie-Sibiu motorway, compelled to demolish, rebuild cracked segment

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Romania's National Company of Motorways and National Roads (CNADNR) urged the constructor of the Orastie-Sibiu motorway, Italian company Salini Impregilo, to demolish and rebuild in accordance with the approved technical project a segment of 200 - 300 metres where cracks appeared.

"The decision of demolishing was made to exactly identify what caused the crack, especially given that the entrepreneur [Salini Impregilo — editor's note] was also the designer of the works' contract. The construction is still under warranty and thus trouble-shooting amount will be borne entirely by the contractor. This very much discussed project has generated lately the appearance of several ideas, observations, commentaries and even accusations in the public space, all of which legitimate in a great part, because it is about an important project, it is about the citizens' safety. It's a project started in 2011 — 2012," general manager Narcis Neaga was quoted in a release of the CNADNR on Wednesday.

The company's head specified the CNADNR asked throughout the project its execution in accordance with the contract, and notified each time when errors occurred.

According to the source, CNADNR recently asked three more independent expert reports, based on the company's representatives' reports. The conclusion confirms the breach of the approved technical project and several execution flaws.

The CNADNR reminds in a press release that in November 2014, it announced the opening of the road traffic on the Orastie — Sibiu motorway, in road traffic safety conditions. "At that moment, the CNADNR has stressed that the works were formally accepted. Out of the same reason, of the traffic safety's outlook, the CNADNR SA did not carry out the acceptance of the work," the company specifies in the release.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 10:44 AM   #8584
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There are a good news! Is Salini Impregilo (known also in Bulgaria by their cancelled contract for bulilding the northern Sofia bypass) going to avoid to do that unless it is additionaly paid?
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Imbecilio is going to cover all remedy costs, because it is entirely their fault. Good thing the Gov did not sign the take-over papers ... they saw it coming. Otherwise, it was the Gov covering remedy costs, or at least part of it.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:34 PM   #8586
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Winner of A3 extension works into Bucharest (between the Bucharest Ring and the city of Bucharest) is consortium between Greece's Aktor and Romania's Euroconstruct. The extension is also 2x3, as the first 20 km of A3 to Bucharest. Price: EUR 30 m.

http://www.economica.net/aktor-si-eu...ti_108569.html
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New bridge over the Danube-Black Sea canal to be opened next week:



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Old October 15th, 2015, 05:12 PM   #8588
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I thought this bridge opened on 12 November 2014?
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Old October 15th, 2015, 05:13 PM   #8589
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This is strange. 10 bids for LOT 2 and 1 bid for LOT 1. I understand LOT1 is difficult and an intro to the mountain section of A3, but only 1 bidder ?! And even that one Romanian ?!
Like I said on the Romanian section, Comarnic bypass part of A3 is extremely ambiguous, it's one of the weirdest projects ever tendered by CNADNR. The tender had an extreme number of clarifications necesary before opening the bids.

The situation - short story: the bypass, as part of the original A3 Comarnic-Brasov project, only has an interchange on it's southern end, near the intersection of DN1 with DJ101R. The northern end of the motorway just ends in the middle of nowhere after 4 km, but requires an acces road with a temporary bridge over the Prahova river, and meets with DN1 using an underpass (which also crosses under the railroad and is very close to the river's edge, possibly below the flood level ).

The huge catch and WTF of the year is that this underpass and the last 2km of this connexion ARE NOT part of the project above. BUT are part of ANOTHER Comarnic bypass, this time just a 1+1 highway standard, closer to the town, which has just recently been designed and is in tender process, with no winner yet. And it will also be design&build. Which is beyond stupid, as the A3 part depends on the other one and is supposed to be ready in 2 years. No mentioning about the kind of intersection between these two roads, just a footnote that the builder of the A3 will have to coordinate with the builder of the other project . And the motorway project itself isn't all that easy, it has a long viaduduct over the river and one "temporary" bridge, it also involves massive hidrological works, as it's right on the river's edge, with a few micro-powerplants near. No wonder only one company even bothered to participate...

Still, the good news is that it's a good romanian company, that proved it can build at good quality at low cost against numerous odds. It's the same one working on A3 Gilau-Nadaselu and A1 Lugoj-Deva lot 4



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I thought this bridge opened on 12 November 2014?
Nope, it was just presented to the press as a huge achievement of the goverment right before the presidential elections. The bridge wasn't ready yet, the anti-seismic supports were only recently mounted. Also, works on the link-road to DN39A are in full swing and likely ready in the next few months, which means the bridge will become an alternative to the old bridge for seaside south-bound traffic. AFAIK, the plan is the divert all traffic on the new bridge in order to finish the rehabilitation works on the old Agidea road bridge.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 07:54 AM   #8590
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Like I said on the Romanian section, Comarnic bypass part of A3 is extremely ambiguous, it's one of the weirdest projects ever tendered by CNADNR. The tender had an extreme number of clarifications necesary before opening the bids.

The situation - short story: the bypass, as part of the original A3 Comarnic-Brasov project, only has an interchange on it's southern end, near the intersection of DN1 with DJ101R. The northern end of the motorway just ends in the middle of nowhere after 4 km, but requires an acces road with a temporary bridge over the Prahova river, and meets with DN1 using an underpass (which also crosses under the railroad and is very close to the river's edge, possibly below the flood level ).

The huge catch and WTF of the year is that this underpass and the last 2km of this connexion ARE NOT part of the project above. BUT are part of ANOTHER Comarnic bypass, this time just a 1+1 highway standard, closer to the town, which has just recently been designed and is in tender process, with no winner yet. And it will also be design&build. Which is beyond stupid, as the A3 part depends on the other one and is supposed to be ready in 2 years. No mentioning about the kind of intersection between these two roads, just a footnote that the builder of the A3 will have to coordinate with the builder of the other project . And the motorway project itself isn't all that easy, it has a long viaduduct over the river and one "temporary" bridge, it also involves massive hidrological works, as it's right on the river's edge, with a few micro-powerplants near. No wonder only one company even bothered to participate...

Still, the good news is that it's a good romanian company, that proved it can build at good quality at low cost against numerous odds. It's the same one working on A3 Gilau-Nadaselu and A1 Lugoj-Deva lot 4
This mountain motorway section already starts to look like a huge challenge, and this is only the start of it. There are dozens of km of double tunnels in the untendered sections. Though the viaduct and huge hydro works on LOT1 may be even more challenging. And since we came to this, thumbs up for UMB/Tehnostrade for the guts to get involved in this challenge.
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Yep. If they complete it nicely, then I'd be extremely happy, as this was like to win a national olympiade for a student. I guess locals then will be more pro gov
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If they complete it nicely, then I'd be extremely happy, as this was like to win a national olympiade for a student.
I'm wondering if the constructor will use new knowledge, technology and innovations of the Romanian technical universities. It could become a big asset / USP to obtain new contract once successfully constructed this difficult lot.
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When i travelled to the black sea in summer, going southward to bulgaria afterwards i DID wonder, about the traffic signs leading me. I wanted to use the bridge wich was told to be open.

OSM took this false information that time, but removed it later on.

So thanks for the information. That means im not as stupid as i felt that time

What concerns the mountain motorway sections of A1&A3:
Well if you travel far, you like a nice net of motorways. (I takes away some touch to the country and nice spots of landscape though) The discussion evolved quite often, why this parts are not built or built late etc. But the outcome was always the same: Most important things (high traffic, or highest ROI) first. It would be a good sideeffect if this helps local building companies to evolve also. This means a bigger share of the spent money stays in the country.

It is to hope that National road agency evolves also. Impregilo ****ed up peoples minds. But if its true about A3 south of Brasov, then CNADR will have a big share of the mess this time.

I really hated going National road northward to Sibiu. I know romanian behavior in driving good. But this road is curvy, left are high mountains, right is the river or the lakes, and even if you go much faster than allowed, i got one time overtaken by a truck with trailer. It was a grand picture seeing more cars on the left side overtaking whenever possible (or not), than cars remaining on the right side.

My driving teacher told me, driving gets a fight for life more and more. But when i came back to germany, and 5 cars did not overtake a farm tractor because of a continuous middel-line, i blew them all

Oh there are stories coming back to my mind....

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Old October 24th, 2015, 11:13 PM   #8594
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Is there any new development regarding A3 in the Suplacu de Barcău area? Google Earth shows it's just a bridge across a reservoir with not much else, so even a short motorway opening would require a lot of additional work.

You can follow the alignment west to DN19E. Even some bridgeworks have been done there.





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Old October 27th, 2015, 07:37 PM   #8595
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Old October 27th, 2015, 08:27 PM   #8596
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You can see some pictures that I shot 2 years ago in that area of future-A3 motorway here. The situation on the motorway is unchanged since (maybe few bushes more).
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You can see some pictures that I shot 2 years ago in that area of future-A3 motorway here. The situation on the motorway is unchanged since (maybe few bushes more).
will this road ever be completed?
The situation in Romania reminds me of the situation in Greece (concerning roads), but when money is hard to find, it can't be skipped
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That segment probably will be finished by 2018 since there is a contract for that construction. But still no ground work, rumors are that technical project wasn't accepted.

On a diferent site, some footage from Lugoj - Deva segment 2, 3 and 4.



It starts from Deva towards west. The works were suppose to be over by spring of 2016 but there are some issue, manly concerning enviromental problems, that will delay the whole opening for late 2017 or maybe even 2018. Main problem is between 14:05 and 16:45 where 3 short tunnels are to be dig and we still don't have a bidding process for selecting that constructor.
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Speaking about tunnels, could you please tell me how many of them will be constructed in the A3?
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Well, in some designs there was no tunnels (rumors says that our civil engineer have a big fear towards tunnels since there is no experience in designing, construction and operating them).

But now there are talks about 3 tunnels, each between 2 and 4 kilometers in the Comarnic - Brasov segment, and another long one in Meses Mountains, near Zalau. But only talks, no design yet and most certainly no construction yet.

Those 3tunnels in Lugoj - Deva area are suppose to be shorter, some 400-600 meters.

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