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Old January 14th, 2016, 09:52 AM   #8721
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The poorest of the poorest work, so much money thrown away...

I think that I lost all the hope I had about the romanians highways...


Another new of this week : A1 between Arad and Nadlac who openned 6 months ago already needs to be fixed, lots of holes in the road... https://youtu.be/ekYafGgSHDo?t=208
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Old January 14th, 2016, 12:42 PM   #8722
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So much wining ... winnipeg.

We had hopes too many. Time to chill those hopes and be more realistic.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 05:26 PM   #8723
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Contract with Salini Impregilo to build segment no. 3 of Orastie - Sibiu Motorway, cancelled

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Sorry, I don't get it. 92 million € for.... It's to much for lot 3 Orastie-Sibiu renovation. Is the funding for lot 3 not yet transfered because of the pending problem?
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Old January 14th, 2016, 05:38 PM   #8724
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Sorry, I don't get it. 92 million € for.... It's to much for lot 3 Orastie-Sibiu renovation. Is the funding for lot 3 not yet transfered because of the pending problem?

Other articles talk about 90 million LEI (e.g. http://monitorizari.hotnews.ro/stiri...traficului.htm, Romanian Language only) that would be tried to be recovered from Impreglio; maybe that other article messed up the currency... ?
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Old January 14th, 2016, 06:30 PM   #8725
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Sorry, I don't get it. 92 million € for.... It's to much for lot 3 Orastie-Sibiu renovation. Is the funding for lot 3 not yet transfered because of the pending problem?
From my knowledge, CNADNR did not do the acceptance for the lot, hence it probably did not pay the contractor. Repairs were due on the contractor expenditure. CNADNR will probably do an expedited procurement procedure to appoint the contractor in charge of fixing the sliding section until end of this year.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 06:31 PM   #8726
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More bad news today. CNADNR cancelled the FS for Comarnic-Brasov. Romania cannot into building motorway into the mountains.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 04:41 AM   #8727
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The poorest of the poorest work, so much money thrown away...

I think that I lost all the hope I had about the romanians highways...


Another new of this week : A1 between Arad and Nadlac who openned 6 months ago already needs to be fixed, lots of holes in the road... https://youtu.be/ekYafGgSHDo?t=208
Those look like potholes ... part of the freeze-thaw cycle. Big thaws yield big potholes. I remember one time when I was heading down I-95 during a big thaw (spring 2014?) and there were potholes so huge they crossed entire driving lanes!
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Old January 15th, 2016, 08:14 AM   #8728
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More bad news today. CNADNR cancelled the FS for Comarnic-Brasov. Romania cannot into building motorway into the mountains.
Well than Budapest-Bucharest by motorway somewhere after 2025
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Old January 15th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #8729
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About 2025.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 12:01 PM   #8730
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More bad news today. CNADNR cancelled the FS for Comarnic-Brasov. Romania cannot into building motorway into the mountains.
But there is no way to build a motorway network AROUND the mountains is there?

At this rate Romania will get very little of the promised funds from the EU between 2014 and 2020 and funding roads will no longer be an EU priority after 2020 I hear.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 12:35 PM   #8731
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Exactly !!
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Old January 15th, 2016, 12:37 PM   #8732
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But there is no way to build a motorway network AROUND the mountains is there?
That is the b***** problem: no way
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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:49 PM   #8733
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Bulgaria just passed out Romania with nearly 800km of motorway in service by end 2015. They know well how to play the EU game.

It suits the EU to have no drawdowns in Romania. They need to duck out of some promises of funds and Romania will seemingly let them.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 02:19 PM   #8734
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We squandered the political expertise that we used to have a few years ago. Bulgaria will have to accustom with getting its motorway link to EU through Serbia, because through Romania it may never come.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 03:33 PM   #8735
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Bulgaria won't get a motorway link through Romania neither if A1 will be build nor A3. Just because those two link Bucharest with Hungary and not Sofia. Sofia could be link via a motorway through our A6 but then again they won't build a motorway towards Vidin (only an express road). So...

Either way, I dont' think that a link through Romania was needed. Geography won't allowed since it's pretty useles to go through Carpathians when one can use all that flat terrain that is known as Pannonian Plain. So unless Serbia goes through another war, Roumania will be by-pass. And I'm fine with that.

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We will use some funds - at least those needed to finish what we haven't finish on 2007-2013 budget. Missing part between Lugoj and Deva, the one between Sebes and Sibiu, the motorway between Sebes and Turda and one between Campia Turzii and Targu Mures. Also Bacau by-pass. Roughly some 220 km that is contracted already and in various building stage.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 04:27 PM   #8736
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Well maybe Bucharest-Sofia by the DX5 to Giurgiu, as Bulgaria will certainly build Ruse-Vlk. Tarnovo. It will be the shortest route. @pasadia: stupid politicians don't let realize the full potential of the country. They just diminish it, and some money comes to them
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Old January 15th, 2016, 04:29 PM   #8737
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Bulgaria just passed out Romania with nearly 800km of motorway in service by end 2015. They know well how to play the EU game.

It suits the EU to have no drawdowns in Romania. They need to duck out of some promises of funds and Romania will seemingly let them.
Nice for Bulgaria! Maybe they just evolded quicker than Romania and get rid quicker of corruption and sh*ts like that, that are continously blocking Romania...
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Those look like potholes ... part of the freeze-thaw cycle. Big thaws yield big potholes. I remember one time when I was heading down I-95 during a big thaw (spring 2014?) and there were potholes so huge they crossed entire driving lanes!
Yes, but this motorway has only 6 months, and so far the winter has been very hot here (except some days of cold on the begining of this month), if with only 5 or 6 days of freezing the road get such potholes, what it will be with a complete winter like we had few years ago with weeks of freezing... And a motorway isn't supposed to be stronger than a national road?
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Old January 15th, 2016, 05:48 PM   #8739
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Nice for Bulgaria! Maybe they just evolded quicker than Romania and get rid quicker of corruption and sh*ts like that, that are continously blocking Romania...
We do not know how to build motorways in the mountains. That is the sad truth.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 05:50 PM   #8740
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Salini Impergilo has done better work on Orastie-Sibiu than this... Btw, is Suceava Bypass(2K as I remember) complete to the other side, so those driving from Ukraine to e.g. Bacau would not enter any town there. Also DN2 in Falticeni bothers me. Road after WW II, if not worse
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