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Old January 18th, 2016, 09:07 AM   #8761
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They won't be allowed to participate in tenders for like two years, they're on a black list.
Only 2 years? They need a lifetime ban!!!
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Old January 18th, 2016, 12:05 PM   #8762
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OR at least 25 years + 160€ mln compensation for building unsustainable s***
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Old January 19th, 2016, 09:51 AM   #8763
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Finally !


Romanian firms to build parking and services areas on highway to Ploiesti


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Romania’s highways company CNADNR has attributed a contract worth RON 35 million (EUR 7.7 mln) without VAT to a joint venture of three Romanian companies for the design and construction of the short-term parking and service areas on the Bucharest – Ploiesti highway.

The consortium, which is made of Good Prod, Axia and Transproiect 2001, won the contract following a public auction, reports local Mediafax.

The design phase will last two months whereas the construction phase is expected to last three months.

The Bucharest – Ploiesti highway, which is 62 kilometers long, was opened for traffic in July 2012. The highway currently has no parking space and no service area.
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 08:28 AM   #8764
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CNADNR plans 467 km of motorways in works this years, as follows:

funded exclusively from budget: A3

Bucureşti-Moara Vlăsiei - 3,3 km
Suplacu de Barcău-Borş - 60,25 km
Gilău-Nădăşelu - 8,7 km
Nădăşelu-Mihăieşti - 16,80 km
Câmpia Turzii-Gilău - 0,32 km
Predeal -Cristian - 10,30 km


EU funds and budget:

(A1) Dumbrava-Deva, lot 2, 3, 4 - 71,88 km
(A10) Sebeş-Turda - 70 km
(A3) Câmpia Turzii-Ogra-Târgu Mureş - 56,5 km

Concession:
A0 S - 48 km
Craiova-Piteşti - 121,19 km


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Old January 23rd, 2016, 08:33 AM   #8765
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Catalin Drula, ex-user of this forum, now PM adviser on infrastructure, declared that Sibiu-Pitesti can start only in 2017. The FS is extremely complex for mountain crossing and cannot be finished by next year.

A0 south FS is well prepared and will be launched soon.


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Old January 23rd, 2016, 10:41 AM   #8766
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CNADNR plans 467 km of motorways in works this years, as follows:
What's about A3 Campia Turzii - Targu Mures and A7 Bacau bypass?
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 01:44 PM   #8767
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A0 south FS is well prepared and will be launched soon.
Stop putting out here wrong information. It is not about A0 south, it's about DNCB extension on southern part at 2*2 DX like standard.

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Predeal -Cristian - 10,30 km
It is Rasnov - Cristian and it's only 6 kilometers long + conection road

Also is very likely that on this segments will NOT have any works done in 2016:

funded exclusively from budget: A3

Suplacu de Barcău-Borş - 60,25 km
Nădăşelu-Mihăieşti - 16,80 km
Predeal -Cristian - 10,30 km

Concession:
A0 S - 48 km
Craiova-Piteşti - 121,19 km

So basicly only 210 km in working stages, of which we shall substract also some parts like the last 6 km from Lugoj-Deva II (where another tender is needed for tunnels construction).
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 01:50 PM   #8768
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What's about A3 Campia Turzii - Targu Mures and A7 Bacau bypass?
Both of them shuld start this year as POIM 2014-2020 (Operational Program for Major Infrastructure) should finally kick off.
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Old January 24th, 2016, 07:52 AM   #8769
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Stop putting out here wrong information. It is not about A0 south, it's about DNCB extension on southern part at 2*2 DX like standard.

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It is Rasnov - Cristian and it's only 6 kilometers long + conection road

Also is very likely that on this segments will NOT have any works done in 2016:

funded exclusively from budget: A3

Suplacu de Barcău-Borş - 60,25 km
Nădăşelu-Mihăieşti - 16,80 km
Predeal -Cristian - 10,30 km

Concession:
A0 S - 48 km
Craiova-Piteşti - 121,19 km

So basicly only 210 km in working stages, of which we shall substract also some parts like the last 6 km from Lugoj-Deva II (where another tender is needed for tunnels construction).

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Autostrada de centură a Capitalei/sector Centura de sud - 48 km, Craiova-Piteşti - 121,19 km
Have you listened to the interview of Catalin? Just curious. BTW: the information I posted is taken from the journal who interviewed CNADNR. So please dirrect your complaints to either the journal or CNADNR.

Even though they would only start the CB as proper DX, that would also be almost the same as a motorway in the south of Bucuresti, so not bad either.
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Old January 24th, 2016, 10:37 PM   #8770
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I know where those dates came from - and it is a document from CNADNR, a very bad one which probably was done some months ago since it mentions Comarnic bypass as part of A3 and the tender for that was cancelled in december 2015.

The fact that CNADNR, Digi or Drula says something it doesn't mean that is necessary the truth. Also, in CNADNR papers some highway can be in works, but only in paper-works (SF, tender, etc...), not in ground-works. So, once again, please use common sense and don't say:

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This is not possible and you know it!
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Old January 25th, 2016, 10:22 AM   #8771
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467 km ???

In the 40 years that Romania has built motorways 720 km are actually built....around 18km a year on average.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 05:08 PM   #8772
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40 years? what?
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Old January 25th, 2016, 07:28 PM   #8773
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Have you listened to the interview of Catalin? Just curious.
Have you? I am also curious.

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BTW: the information I posted is taken from the journal who interviewed CNADNR.
Please decide: have you listened, or have you read? The interview is here (min 15:25), in a crystal clear Romanian.

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So please dirrect your complaints to either the journal or CNADNR.
No, he directed his complaint to you, because you are the one who's spreading misinformation with every single message you post.
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467 km ???

In the 40 years that Romania has built motorways 720 km are actually built....around 18km a year on average.
A country like RO I think will have 467 km u/c. PL has 920km. That result is caused by the fact RO built 113 km from 1967-89(first section opened 1972); in 1990s there was nothing, and the bulk was constructed btw 2001 and now. Openings came in 2004(first) to the last btw Timispara and Lugoj. So, in Communist RO: av. 6.6km/year, 1989-2004: 0; 2004-2016: 51.58 km/year(Lot 3 of Salini excluded(A1). Not fast, but still better than 18km/year. Bulgaria is performing a bit better than that, still.
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complicated statistics...
but the key issue is Romania does not consume the fruits the EU offers.
I would even say Romania is not aware there are some EU fruits to consume.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 12:47 PM   #8776
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A country like RO I think will have 467 km u/c. PL has 920km. That result is caused by the fact RO built 113 km from 1967-89(first section opened 1972); in 1990s there was nothing, and the bulk was constructed btw 2001 and now. Openings came in 2004(first) to the last btw Timispara and Lugoj. So, in Communist RO: av. 6.6km/year, 1989-2004: 0; 2004-2016: 51.58 km/year(Lot 3 of Salini excluded(A1). Not fast, but still better than 18km/year. Bulgaria is performing a bit better than that, still.
But the global quality wasn't better during communism? I mean, they are probably building a lot right now, but when you look at all the repairs that have been done, like on TM-Arad, or Cunta-Saliste that has been completly demolished and is under rebuilding, or Arad-Nadlac where the work has been badly done on some part (and uilder will have to repair all the concerned sections during next summer)...

So probably the building rithm has nothing to see with what has been done during communism, but the fact is that now they choose the poorest builder possible (or so) who will buid the cheappest way without paying attention if the builded roads will last more than few months...
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Well, not all roads are that, so even without Nadlac-Timisoara we get a around 42km/year. The reasons of so bad quality: a) finish quickly b)save money c)earn more money(Machiavellian:every architect dreams of having a big part of a city burnt out, every doctor dreams of an epidemic...). So the people who construct badly are arsonists, and they require CNADNR to remake everything, so they earn profit. Then the director should be in jail
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@ukraroad, can you proof your prediction?

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but the fact is that now they choose the poorest builder possible (or so)
Minimum Bechtel hasn't build any bad road, has it?
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That section is actually quite good.
There were other issues that lead to the canceling of the contract - mainly the fact, that when it was cancelled, the whole highway between Brasov and Bors should have been nearing completion, and only that section was actually finished.
Now, why that happened, that is a whole other discussion...
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Old January 27th, 2016, 06:53 AM   #8780
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Have you? I am also curious.



No, he directed his complaint to you, because you are the one who's spreading misinformation with every single message you post.
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Autostrada de centură a Capitalei/sector Centura de sud - 48 km, Craiova-Piteşti - 121,19 km
I am reposting this in Romanian, and please let me know what it means.

Hint: it's in the title of this thread as well.
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