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Old January 9th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #881
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How far inside the Bucuresti ring road (the present one, not future A0) do A1 and A2 extend?
Not too much. The ring road at the intersection with A1 is right on the boundary of Bucharest (official, because on the A1 the industrial and commercial parks extend as far as 10-15 km outside in the area of A1) while at the intersection with A2 is about 3-4 km from the boundaries of the city.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 02:38 PM   #882
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Are there traffic fatalities statistics for 2009 available yet? If so, please post a source (doesn't matter if it is in Romanian).
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Old January 9th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #883
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Hi

Do You know does this higway have plans (coordination) continuity towards west, I mean in Hungary? I know that the plan is to connect to Debrecen, but is there any existing plan for conctruction on hungarian side of the border. I cannot find any. Thanks in advance for the answer

I have found some answers on page 43 of this topic. It seems there is some discussion about joining Shengen zone by Romania. I remember story when Slovakia was far away from joining EU in 2004, so it was decided to build big border terminal between Poland and Slovakia. Now both countries are in EU and Shengen group and this terminal is just waste of money. Sorry for off topic.

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Old January 9th, 2010, 04:06 PM   #884
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Old January 9th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #885
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Are there traffic fatalities statistics for 2009 available yet? If so, please post a source (doesn't matter if it is in Romanian).



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Red: deaths
Orange: seriously injured
Blue: accidents

2007: 2794 deaths

2008: 3033 deaths

No stats for 2009 yet. Sorry.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #886
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Do You know does this higway have plans (coordination) continuity towards west, I mean in Hungary? I know that the plan is to connect to Debrecen, but is there any existing plan for conctruction on hungarian side of the border. I cannot find any. Thanks in advance for the answer.
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Ground works on the last section of M43 scheduled to start in March, and a deadline for the development is the summer of 2012.

M35 connection to the A3 needs only political will, so as the M49 connection between Vája (M3) and Satu Mare/Szatmárnémeti.

IMO after a governmental change this spring (hopefully) the A3-M35 connection will be priority.

Waiting for you guys...

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I have found some answers on page 43 of this topic. It seems there is some discussion about joining Shengen zone by Romania. I remember story when Slovakia was far away from joining EU in 2004, so it was decided to build big border terminal between Poland and Slovakia. Now both countries are in EU and Shengen group and this terminal is just waste of money. Sorry for off topic.
AFAIK, an intermodal terminal is in plan to be built now on Corridor IV near Timisoara. Can you give us a link to the Polish-Slovak terminal? Thanks.
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Old January 9th, 2010, 11:29 PM   #887
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Wow, in 2005 there were almost 20000 accidents while in 2004 there were "only" about 7500..
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Old January 10th, 2010, 12:02 AM   #888
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I think it has to do with the registration of accidents. Such a jump in accidents is simply not plausible. They were happening before, but not reported by or to the police.
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Old January 10th, 2010, 01:02 PM   #889
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I think it has to do with the registration of accidents. Such a jump in accidents is simply not plausible. They were happening before, but not reported by or to the police.
It is posible because since 2005-2006 the automobile market grew incredibly. In 2006 the new cars sales stood at 297162 (and around 350000 used cars from foreign countries). So the roads didn't changed much, the same old narrow roads full with potholes but the cars brought where faster and with more HP. 3 months ago I went to police to give the theoretical examination for the driving licence, I had to wait from 8 am up until 3 pm to give the exam because there were hundreds of people waiting, and most of them were 18 years old kids full of adrenaline. I gave the practical examination after 1 month! A few years ago you could give the theoretical exam and the practical exam on the same day...

more fast cars + more young drivers + the same old shity roads = more accidents
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Old January 10th, 2010, 02:55 PM   #890
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Talking about the intermodal shipping center near Timisoara:

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Located in the southern city Recas, achieving intermodal center (Regional Intermodal Transportation Center Goods Timisoara) is expected pan-European corridor IV, between road and rail lines (E70 and bus FF 900). Access goods can be achieved both by road and railway, container terminal benefit besides classical methods of unattended freight and 2 special lines for freight assistance (roll). Platforms exchange its intermodal and logistics can contribute massively to the growth of the city Recas and the entire county, especially if it accesses the Sectoral Operational Program "Transport" to finance the center.






A1 motorway (Corridor IV) is somewhere behind the city (top-left of the map).





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Old January 11th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #891
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There's more talks now at the city about the future inner-city suspended motorway ring of Bucharest:



The fezability study will be completed in the second half of this year while the financing seems to be offered by the Chinese banks.


This inner-city motorway ring should not be mistaken with the outer-city motorway ring which is also proposed to be U/C next year:

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Skynick, can you please mark also A0 (bucharest's ring motorway)? Thanks.

Here's the approximate route:

Thus Bucharest will have 2 motorway rings + one express outskirts ring (currently partly completed N of Bucharest) + one urban boulevard ring (to be closed this year with the completion of Basarab flyover).
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Old January 11th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #892
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3D simulations

Hello everybody

Does any of you have access to 3d presentations of the undergoing projects in Romania. I'm interesting especially in A1, A2 and A3.

This is an example from Hungary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM7TsazAic4
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Old January 11th, 2010, 05:04 PM   #893
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I think that the suspended motorway won't really be a motorway, but an expressway, so that means 1 motorway ring, 2 expressway rings that partly overlap, and one urban boulevard ring.
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Does anybody have any idea why the current ring, the future motorway ring, and the future suspended motorway/expressway overlap or seem to overlap near Berceni town?
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By "suspended" you mean elevated?
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Old January 11th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #896
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The cost of such a project will be huge, the expropriations alone will cost a fortune in those areas. If it will be a true motorway, the cost of construction alone (not to mention the cost of moving pipelines, cables and other networks) will be at least 35million euros per km.

As for the accidents chart, there must have been some kind of change in the count of accidents. in the years 1999-2004, if you add up the red column with the orange one, you get a column bigger than the blue one.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 06:00 PM   #898
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Hi

Do You know does this higway have plans (coordination) continuity towards west, I mean in Hungary? I know that the plan is to connect to Debrecen, but is there any existing plan for conctruction on hungarian side of the border. I cannot find any. Thanks in advance for the answer
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A1:
We hope the construction of M43 Makó-Csanádpalota section will start this year.
Between Szeged and Makó the higway is U/C, opens this year.

A3:
In short term we want to continue the M35: Debrecen-Berettyóújfalu-Romanian border (Nagykereki).
This is part of the KözOP (Transportation Operative Program), with a half-profile motorway (I think the Berettyóújfalu-border section should be built as a full-profile highway). Begin date 2010, but we can count with a 2 year delay.
In long term we want to build the whole M4: Budapest (M0)-Szolnok-Püspökladány-Berettyóújfalu-Nagykereki.
The KözOP partly contains this project, with bypasses, 2*2 lane upgrades, etc.

And we have plans to connect out higway network near Satu Mare. The half-profile M49 will connect the M3 to the Romanian border.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #899
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Köszönöm szépen! It is good to know.
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The cost of such a project will be huge, the expropriations alone will cost a fortune in those areas. If it will be a true motorway, the cost of construction alone (not to mention the cost of moving pipelines, cables and other networks) will be at least 35million euros per km.

As for the accidents chart, there must have been some kind of change in the count of accidents. in the years 1999-2004, if you add up the red column with the orange one, you get a column bigger than the blue one.
But that route does have the fewest possible expropriations for an inner ring.
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