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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:40 PM   #9061
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I can't remember that it was posted the FS is done. Haven't heard about the project for a long time...
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As for official information: contract for FS between Sibiu and Fagaras is suspended for one year since last november.
Actually, yes. I remember now. I was looking at the CNADNR website, and there it says that the Sibiu - Fagaras section has its FS completed and approved.

http://www.cnadnr.ro/ro/proiecte/sibiu-fagaras

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Only 17 km from Bacau Bypass will be part from A7 and will be build as half-profile. The other 13 km will be simple one band/way roads.
That's true, my bad. Here, this is it:



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I pretty much fear that Pitesti - Sibiu will be the last project in Transilvania
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I doubt very much that any other project in Transylvania will be started
It's called anxiety

When you mention "public pressure", do you actually mean political pressure? Because really, most of the public pressure regarding the construction of motorways that I see is still about projects in Transylvania (or linking Transylvania to other regions). As soon as A1 Sibiu - Pitesti will be U/C, A3 Ploiesti - Brasov will take its place as the focus of infrastructure activists. Same for A3 Mihaiesti - Suplacu de Barcau, there's already some pressure to get that FS for the Meses Tunnel (linking Crișana to Transylvania proper) done faster so that the whole project can proceed.

If we talk about Sibiu - Fagaras, for now this is only a backup project (to be pushed forward in case the construction of more difficult projects such as Sibiu - Pitesti would take longer than expected and won't be able to use up all the EU money for this financial period, which is very likely to happen), sure, but since its FS study will eventually be ready, it might as well be chosen as other such "backup projects" aren't even in FS stage right now.
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Old September 8th, 2016, 09:57 PM   #9062
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Suspended or approved?
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Old September 9th, 2016, 11:42 AM   #9063
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Suspended or approved?

It is approved an old FS as a expressway (2*2 without emergency lane). But that FS should be updated as a highway at JASPERS standards in order to be finance on EU programs. Contract was tender in 2014, sign in 2015 and then suspended in November 2015. I will put a link for this information later on since now I'm on a phone.

CNADNR site is NOT to be trusted on all subjects.
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Old September 9th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #9064
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UPDADE A1 LUGOJ - DEVA LOTS 2-4 (72 km)

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Old September 9th, 2016, 08:32 PM   #9065
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Old September 9th, 2016, 08:38 PM   #9066
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Old September 9th, 2016, 09:19 PM   #9067
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So I doubt very much that any other project in Transylvania will be started... no Sibiu - Fagaras - Brasov, probably no Mihaiesti - Zalau - Surplacu de Barcau.
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Same for A3 Mihaiesti - Suplacu de Barcau, there's already some pressure to get that FS for the Meses Tunnel (linking Crișana to Transylvania proper) done faster so that the whole project can proceed.
Lots 1 2 4 & 5 of Mihaiesti - Suplacu de Barcau to be tendered early next year (February - March 2017), according to the CNADNR boss. It's seems that the FS for these lots is ready, so the project is to move into design phase (these are RED FIDIC projects). As for Lot 3, which also features a 2.4 km tunnel, this one will be tendered separately (May 2017) as the FS for the tunnel is not yet ready.

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Tender for the FS of A7 Ploiesti - Buzau - Bacau to be launched in 2 weeks. Also, the tender for the FS of A7 Bacau - Pascani, as well as the tender for the FS of A8 Targu Neamt - Iasi - Ungheni (~135 km) will be launched in October. A7 Ploiesti - Buzau - Bacau - Pascani will be ~ 330 km long.
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Old September 10th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #9068
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Is the Saliste-Cunta segment of the A1 reopened? Because OSM shows that it is.....
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Old September 10th, 2016, 08:51 AM   #9069
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Old September 10th, 2016, 03:22 PM   #9070
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September 30 is the estimated time of opening for that segment.
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Old September 10th, 2016, 05:29 PM   #9071
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Oh, its opening is to happen soon, that's why it is shown as opened in OSM.....
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Old September 13th, 2016, 09:00 PM   #9072
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Quality work done by CNADNR. If only every public work was done this way...

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It seems that a General Transport Master Plan is just about to be adopted by the Gov :

(Romanian)General Transport Master Plan

There are no major surprises, it's pretty much what we've been talking about here recently. pasadia should also feel happy about this, as his home town was not disregarded.

Projects 2014 - 2020 (A7 Ploiesti - Pascani is most likely going to be build as a motorway instead of a DX; the FS for A7 is going to determine this):



Projects 2020 - 2030:



This is how the whole network should eventually look like:

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Old September 13th, 2016, 10:53 PM   #9073
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Yayyy, ANOTHER plan. We were due one.

WTF IS a yellow Drum Euro Trans....surely these exist already as do the red roads.

And Romania will not complete1, never mind 2, Transcarpathian motorway projects by 2020, although the real deadline is 2022 before Eurocash is actually lost.
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Old September 13th, 2016, 11:15 PM   #9074
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Another (master) plan* and another xxxxxxx

I think the 2014-2020 projects will never be completed by 2020 and I don't think that all planned projects will be u/c by 2020. E.g. A13 Sibiu-Fagaras or A8...

*Is it really new? The files have a new timestamp in the file name but there's a 2014-2020 period and exactly the same map (2014-2020) was published in July 2015 and the last map was published in March 2015 (I have offline copies).

Maybe it was just suggested in 2015 and approved now?
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Old September 13th, 2016, 11:43 PM   #9075
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It is not yet approved. And yes, probably they are the same as one year ago - i will not look on any "new" masterplan unless it is approved one way or the other. It's useless to talk about them and about how many big mistakes there are written into them.
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Old September 13th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #9076
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It is not yet approved. And yes, probably they are the same as one year ago - .
Well it is not a plan as it is pretty much impossible to get those two transcarpathian sections completed by 2022 (the last chance drawdown of EU 2014-2020 funds).

Huge amount of geotechnical work required before a tender and a contractor appointed (after a court case naturally). Each of those transcarpathian sections is a 4 year build.
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I had also seen before that last map (w. all the different road categories). The only new information for me and really the only information that matters for now is regarding the projects chosen to be implemented in the 2014 - 2020 (actually, 2022) EU financial period.

And it's actually more of a confirmation, since for the majority of these projects we already know that they are mooving ahead (see my other post #9067). Sibiu - Fagaras was also somewhat expected, since the execution of the FS for this section has already been assigned and it should resume in November, if I got this right. Then we have Comarnic - Brasov, that will most likely move ahead at a very slow pace (and very small lots) given the complexity of the project and the limited resources, but hopefully it will at least not halt. Fagaras - Brasov is a nice surprise for me, while for Pitesti - Craiova, last time I heard about it was regarding a possible concession.
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My prediction is that Romania loses €2bn of EU funds because of this non plan, perhaps €3bn.

This should have been final in late 2013. Finalising it 3 years later, almost half way through the funding period, is insane.
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My prediction is that Romania loses €2bn of EU funds because of this non plan, perhaps €3bn.

This should have been final in late 2013. Finalising it 3 years later, almost half way through the funding period, is insane.

honestly saying I should "dislike" your post.
what you are saying is true, but it means Romania lost €2bn-€3bn.
really sounds crazy to me
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Well, the biggest lost is not in road infrastructure, is in railway infrastructure where all the project are even more delayed. But at least in railway there is no arguing about what project is more important.
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