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Old October 20th, 2017, 11:48 PM   #9581
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He will argue next that Transalpina could be used as a transit road - and yes, this road is in use for this purpose because DN66 between Petrosani and Targu Jiu (Jiu valley sector) is undergoing repairs since 3-4 years ago. But when works will be over (which almost there are), no one will use Translapina other than tourist.
That's exactly what I said, that these alpine passes are used as alternatives for heavy traffic or works congested main roads .... but nevermind, I see you figured it out too.

BTW: I am curios if anyone here exposing big ideas does DN1 on Valea Prahovei regularly on weekends. Probably not. Even the road police recommends the alternative routes I have mentioned above, but what do they know anyway ?! That in the absence of any major motorway works on the route.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 11:51 PM   #9582
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Astaldi is reported to have won the works on Braila Danube Bridge (and connection roads) for a price of EUR 430 m EUR. Chinese consortium bid was higher.





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Old October 20th, 2017, 11:54 PM   #9583
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A0 south (51 km) bids opened:

Lot 1:

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1. Alsim Alarko Sanayi Tesisleri ve Ticaret AS

2. Societa Italiana per Condotte d'Acqua SpA

3. Asocierea Delta Antrepriza de Constructii si Montaj 93 SA - IC Ictas Insaat Sanayi Ve Ticaret AS

4. Asocierea Constructii Erbasu SA - Vahostav SK as - Trameco SA

5. Asocierea SALC SpA - Nettstrade JK Solution SRL - IRCOP SpA

6. Asocierea Impresa Pizzarotti & C SpA - Pizzarotti SA

7. Asocierea Tirrena Scavi SpA - Societatea de Constructii Napoca SA

8. Asocierea Spedition UMB SRL - Tehnostrade SRL - Via Design SRL


Lotul 2:
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1. Aktor Technical Societe Anonyme (Aktor SA) - Euro Construct Trading 98 SRL

2. Alsim Alarko Sanayi Tesisleri ve Ticaret AS

3. Astaldi SpA

4. Asocierea Constructii Erbasu SA - Vahostav SK as - Trameco SA

5. Asocierea IC Ictas Insaat Sanayi Ve Ticaret AS - Delta Antrepriza de Constructii si Montaj 93 SA

6. Porr Construct SRL

7. Asocierea Tirrena Scavi SpA - Societatea de Constructii Napoca SA

8. Asocierea Spedition UMB SRL - Tehnostrade SRL - Artera Proiect SRL


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1. Aktor Technical Societe Anonyme (Aktor SA) - Euro Construct Trading 98 SRL

2. Alsim Alarko Sanayi Tesisleri ve Ticaret AS

3. Astaldi SpA

4. Asocierea Constructii Erbasu SA - Vahostav SK as - Trameco SA

5. Asocierea IC Ictas Insaat Sanayi Ve Ticaret AS - Delta Antrepriza de Constructii si Montaj 93 SA

6. Porr Construct SRL

7. Asocierea Tirrena Scavi SpA - Societatea de Constructii Napoca SA

8. Asocierea Spedition UMB SRL - Tehnostrade SRL - Artera Proiect SRL
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Old October 21st, 2017, 12:17 AM   #9584
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A12 tender is kinda stuck from what we know in commercial negotiations with potential bidders (concerning international arbitrage vs national courts), even though it was supposed to be decided some time ago. Hopefully they will figure it out soon.
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Old October 21st, 2017, 12:26 AM   #9585
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A Transfagarasan 'upgrade' is but the craziest fantasy project on top of a loooooiong line of fantasy 'urgent' 'imminent' plans for Romania kited in here by the fantasist in chief.
Good thing you were not in charge of the Transalpina or the Transbucegi upgrade.

And good thing also that not many people realize how spectacular they are , even more so than Transfagarasan, as otherwise these roads would also turn into clogged mass tourism obsessions.
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Old October 21st, 2017, 08:16 PM   #9586
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A3 near Bucharest (Popasului St - Petricani St)



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Old October 21st, 2017, 11:50 PM   #9587
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That's exactly what I said, that these alpine passes are used as alternatives for heavy traffic or works congested main roads .... but nevermind, I see you figured it out too.

BTW: I am curios if anyone here exposing big ideas does DN1 on Valea Prahovei regularly on weekends. Probably not. Even the road police recommends the alternative routes I have mentioned above, but what do they know anyway ?! That in the absence of any major motorway works on the route.
Afaik Transbugeci is DJ713 which ends in the mountains. The alternative route, when there are issues at DN1 is DN71 which is close to Transbugeci but not identical. (Or of course DN1a for the name already says that)
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 01:14 AM   #9588
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Afaik Transbugeci is DJ713 which ends in the mountains. The alternative route, when there are issues at DN1 is DN71 which is close to Transbugeci but not identical. (Or of course DN1a for the name already says that)

I think this is now the third time it has been pointed out to Le Clerk that Transbugeci is not what he referred to.. Let's see if that is sufficient...
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 10:32 AM   #9589
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You are really funny. Did you look at the routes I posted above on Maps ?! Just asking, because it is a norm for some here to be professionals of posting heresay.

DN71 is an alpine road that crosses half the Bucegi mountains, and contains a section of Transbucegi (not the entire Transbucegi road indeed), and allows for the by-pass of DN1 which is ussually recommended by the police on hgh traffic periods. B]which is I actually said before while explicitly posting the routes on maps, so that people get a grip[/B]. It does not mean it literally crosses the entire Bucegi mountains. I recommend you to actually do that drive in reality and then come back with the theory on that.


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Transbucegi for example is becoming a real alternative to DN1. Just look at the map. And consider that it takes ussually 2 hours to go from Comarnic to Sinaia on a ussual Friday-Sunday period. For 17 km !! Which makes Transbucegi not only a logical option, but the only one sane !


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Old October 22nd, 2017, 10:43 AM   #9590
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I really do not understand the fuss here about the intended upgrade of Transfagarasan . I am trying to understand the logic behind it. Probably because some assume that this will take money from other projects. But this is not the case we do not have a problem with money but with not enough good projects.

Or is this motorways only ? The title does not say so. Road use and national road development in Romania is actually more important than motorways, but is not shown here at all.
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 11:52 AM   #9591
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I really do not understand the fuss here about the intended upgrade of Transfagarasan . I am trying to understand the logic behind it. ....
I am afraid you made the noise with your origin(al) post...
your revelations ("revolution ideas") are something what make people seriously considered of Romanian road infrastructure at least disappointed.
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 02:19 PM   #9592
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I suggest leaving this discussion about Transfagarasan for when a tender will actually be launched, if it will be launched.

Meanwhile, it's been officially confirmed that ASTALDI S.p.A. – IHI INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS CO. LTD has won the tender for Brăila Bridge.

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1.995.932.260,25 lei (433.6 m Euro), excluding VAT

12 months design

36 months construction

120 months warranty
Also, according to API sources, the tender for Bacau Bypass (~ 16.5 km of motorway, 14 km of connection road) is to be launched in the coming period. This stretch of A7 is set to become the first piece of motorway in the Romanian region of Moldova. This segment was previously U/C as half profile, but the Turks that won the contract decided to abandon the works after only scracthing the earth a little bit. This time, CNAIR decided to tender it as full-profile motorway, which should have been the logical choice right from the beginning.

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Old October 22nd, 2017, 02:25 PM   #9593
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Someone do correct me if I am wrong but I understand that:

In 2016 0km of motorway opened in Romania
In 2017 (so far) 0km of motorway opened in Romania

And that is the reality not the fantasy.
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A1: Dumbrava – Margina 15km (2013 to 6th March 2017) – projectmap
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Which new motorways are currently under construction?
Which new motorways will be opened next?

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Old October 22nd, 2017, 04:59 PM   #9595
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A10 Sebes - Turda lot 3 is set to open next week. Stay tuned.

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No month of December just yet. I think we had about 90 km in plan for openings but I doubt it will be matched. But lets see what Santa brings.
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 06:30 PM   #9597
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Looking here.

http://wikimapia.org/m/#lat=46.3632603&lon=23.7516225&z=12&l=0&m=o

I make that c. 8km from Aiud junction to Decea junction...the rest cannot open absent other lots.

So Romania will open less than 25km of new Autostrada in 2016 and 2017 combined and at the peak of the EU funding window.

This is disastrous...Poland is managing to open 25km of 2+2 every month on average.
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Just the other day, New York Times came out with an interesting article that touched on this subject.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/b...y-romania.html
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That's indeed quite shocking. After all that's not a newcommer problem. Romania is already well established EU country.
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This is disastrous...Poland is managing to open 25km of 2+2 every month on average.
I will not deny that Poland has a better road administration, but Poland is flat while Romania is 2/3 hills and mountains. And the news is that we have pretty much completed the motorway network in the plains a decade ago. Now, everything is or will be built, with small exception (A0), is mountain or hills.

I will put this to you so that you get the language.

PS: this is not the peak of the funding season. The peak is the end of the season, doh. And Romania will probably manage to do what it did last season, ie attract 90% of the funding with deadline extensions. I hope though we will get more than 100% considering the proposed projects. The bridge at Braila alone will attract 20% of the funding with the rest probably going to A0, PiSi (mountain), remaining works on A3 and new works on A7 (both hill regions), which combined are more than the available funding (or probably doble the available funding). From the looks of it, ATM we have good projects to put EU money in.
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