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Old October 26th, 2017, 09:31 PM   #9661
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someone should make a summary of the lot of motorway projects launched
Just my 2c: That would be quite useless considering that it will still take ages until construction works will be started... Only paperworks...
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Old October 26th, 2017, 09:41 PM   #9662
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Contract signing should happen next year, even with appeals included. Most projects (on A0, A12, and A3) have 3 years or less for completion with those complex having 4 years for completion (PiSi and Braila bridge), design included. That takes us into 2021 latest. If all goes well, which is indeed improbable for some projects. Hopefully, lots 1 and 5 of PiSi will be completed by 2021-2022, with the middle lots (and those really difficult in the mountains) going into the next EU budget, even though CNADNR officials try to lie to themselves those could be also ready by then.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 11:44 PM   #9663
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I agree, that list is likely useful only after construction orders are actually given.

Meanwhile, if curious, one can take a look at http://forum.peundemerg.ro/index.php?topic=251.0, there's a lot of status information there; use Google Translate if needed.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 10:08 PM   #9664
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Waiting for LOT 5 of PiSi soon !


Lot 5 of PiSi Pitesti-Curtea de Arges - 30 km

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1. Astaldi SpA

2. Asocierea China Railway 14th Bureau Group Co Ltd - Viaponte Rom SRL - Viaponte Projetos e Consultoria de Engenharia SA

3. Asocierea Impresa Pizzarotti & C SpA - Pizzarotti SA

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5. Societa Italiana per Condotte d'Acqua SpA

6. Asocierea Spedition UMB SRL - Tehnostrade SRL - Aktor Technical Societe Anonyme (Aktor SA)

7. Asocierea Tirrena Scavi SpA - Toto SpA Costruzioni Generali

8. Asocierea Trameco SA - Vahostav SK as - Construcții Erbașu SA - Vega '93 SRL - East Water Drillings SRL
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Old October 28th, 2017, 10:33 PM   #9665
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A10 Sebes - Turda lot 3 is set to open next week. Stay tuned.

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Doesn't sound definitive and didn't happen. Is there any updated info?

According to this news article from 17th October, lot 1+2 deadlines have been moved to 2019 (instead of April/June 2018).

Lot 4 deadline is 30th November 2017.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 11:17 PM   #9666
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It seems that 27 November it's the proposed date to open Lot 3 of A10 Sebes - Turda. Works are pretty much over, but now it seems that we have a problem with bureaucracy. Where not so far ago we build highways without building permits, now he won't open highways if there is not some new paper done (traffic security audit and other stuff that we are not used to have or heard about it before).

For lot 4 of the same highway there is a challenge with a landslide mentioned before. PORR, wihich is the constructor on that segment, it wotks hard to get it done before winter, but noone knows for sure it they will succede. You can see some picture from this segment with the landslide (not longer than 500-600 meters) here. From the same user there are more picture from today also with works pretty much over for the rest of the lot.
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Old October 29th, 2017, 02:55 PM   #9667
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I was looking on this post and I think it needs an update:

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A7: Bacau-North – Bacau-South 17km (May 2016 to May 2018) [1st c/w]– ? – map
Contract was terminated (if I remember right in spring 2017) and we are expecting a new tender for full motorway profile (not half-profile).

The same situation (contract terminated) with:

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A3: Bors – Suplacu de Barcau 60.1km (2004 to 2020?) [contract canceled] – project – map
But here the new tender process which started in August (current dead-line for offer submission in November) is spliting the whole segment in 3 parts:

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Lotul 1 - Subsectiunea 3C1: Suplacu de Barcau - Chiribis (km 4+200 - km 30+550); Lotul 2 - Subsectiunea 3C2: Chiribis - Biharia (km 30+550 – km 59+100); Lotul 3 - Subsectiunea 3C3: Biharia - Bors (km 59+100 – km 64+450)
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A3: Nadaselu – Gilau 8.7km (July 2014 to Mid 2018) – ? – map
This segment is over (reception was requested) but it can't be open as there is no I/C at one end. This is because contract with Bechtel was terminated in 2013 before finishing the needed bridge over Somesul Mic river and a new contract was sign only a few days ago with Tirrena Scavi. So both segments will be open together, probably in Late 2018.

Also some delays make the official date for opening very unlikely for this segments:

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A3: Campia Turzii – Ludus 16km (Early 2017 to Early 2018) – ? – map
A3: Ludus – Iernut 18km (Early 2017 to Early 2018) – ? – map
Both should be late 2018 at best, 2019 realistic (environmental agreement was updated this year, hopefully building permits will be issued this year. Works started only for design, demining and archaeological part).

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A10: Aiud – Alba Iulia-North 28.7km (July 2014 to 2018) – ? – map
A10: Alba Iulia-North – Sebes (A1) 16.0km (Spring 2015 to 2018) – ? – map
2019 for sure for this 2 segments. There is still no building permit for I/C Sebes (A1*A10) and works around Teius I/C are going really slow as Aktor seems to have big problems with this construction site.

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A1: Ilia – Deva/Soimus 22.1km (2013 to >= Late 2018) – ? – map
Also 2018 is basically impossible for full segment, works around Soimus area should go up until summer of 2019.

One new segment should be added also (besides that small segment containing the bridge over Somes)

A3: Rasnov - Cristian 6,5km (2017 to 2019?) – project – map

Works haven't started yet although contract was sign in August.
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Old October 29th, 2017, 04:12 PM   #9668
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I was looking on this post and I think it needs an update:
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One new segment should be added also (besides that small segment containing the bridge over Somes)

A3: Rasnov - Cristian 6,5km (2017 to 2019?) – project – map

Works haven't started yet although contract was sign in August.
I'll add the latter once construction works will have been started.

Generally, I don't count lots but sections between interchanges or temporary access roads which are opened at once. For that reason, I won't add the Somoes bridge but extend the Nadaselu - Gilau section from 8.7km to 9.5km (that's the motorway length I've measured on OSM).
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Old October 30th, 2017, 04:56 AM   #9669
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Works started only for design, demining and archaelogical part.
Demining means removing land mines...do you possibly mean filling in old coal or iron mines?
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:07 PM   #9670
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there are ocasionally instances of unexploded world war mines discoveries in Romania, so detection and removal of ordnance if necessary is part and parcel of pre-construction work

i believe this may not be unique to Romania.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:15 PM   #9671
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Demining means removing land mines...do you possibly mean filling in old coal or iron mines?
Yes, you are right. I don't know why I haven't check the exact meaning of this word - I only guest that it means the same as in roumanian -

"deminare" (RO) - cleaning mines

"filling in old coal or iron mines" in roumanian would be something like "inchidere de mina"
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minesweeping and demining / clearance of explosive remnants ( may be bombs and not mines) if necessary...
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Old October 30th, 2017, 08:43 PM   #9673
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A video from API on A10, Sebes-Turda, Lots 3 & 4 (the ones that might be opened still this year). The video actually starts at A3, approx here: https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5438.../data=!3m1!1e3, and then continues south-east towards A10

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What's at 3:30? wikimapia. It doesn't look like a (simple) rest area...
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Old October 30th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #9675
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it looks like a maintenance center such as CIC Ortisoara f. eg.

What i find more puzzling are the craters from earlier 3:15 ish but what do i know...

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Old October 30th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #9676
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it looks like a maintenance center such as CIC Ortisoara f. eg.
Here's a pic of the new coordination and maintenance facility (CIC Dumbrava it's called, I believe)



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What i find more puzzling are the craters from earlier 3:15 ish but what do i know...
It's the area of the landslide. Works for fixing that look more complex than I thought, it looks like these works involve a little more than just the drilling of piles on both sides of the road.



Pics: alexV @ API.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 04:20 PM   #9677
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Old October 31st, 2017, 05:15 PM   #9678
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Question to the experts. If a contract lasts 45 months in Romania is there also a winter break that is not counted.

EG if Jan and Feb are not counted (contractually) then 45 months of work is 4.5 years of March-Dec working..10 month working year.

Nobody will be pouring concrete/asphalting in a deep -15 freeze in January and the ground could be well frozen.

Poland disregards 3 months a year and while Romania is further south a lot of the big jobs will be high up.
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I'm not an expert, but here 45 months = 45 months, I know that. But usually there are delays w. permits issuance etc, so construction companies are granted 'extra time', accordingly.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 08:39 PM   #9680
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