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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #961
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Also, the minister mentioned that the same PPP will be used for the mountainous section of A1 (Sibiu-Pitesti), A0 and (potentially next year) for A4.

So, we might see the signing of new contracts this year, the most probable being the most difficult section of A1 (which is not funded by the EU).

This PPP contracting helps us overcome the financing impediment which would postpone constrction of the rest of motorway network for a long period of time.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #962
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Why doesn't EU (partially) fund A1? It's a vital connection in Romania.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:36 PM   #963
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Why doesn't EU (partially) fund A1? It's a vital connection in Romania.
The EU funds most parts of A1, yet not the most difficult one (Sibiu-Pitesti ~ 100 km) which goes right through the mountains. Also, we cannot wait until 2014 when other financing for motorways will come from the EU to start works on A0 and A4 (part of corridor IV). Delaying them would cost more the economy than whatever financing would come from the EU for those after 2014.

Probably the Pitesti-Sibiu section will be contracted this year through another PPP, as well as the N section of A0, while the southern section of A0 and A4 will be contracted next year. If this will hapen, there are good chances that A0 and A1 will be completed by 2014-2015, while A4 will be ready by 2015-2016.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:37 PM   #964
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Why doesn't EU (partially) fund A1? It's a vital connection in Romania.
Oh, but it does. It just requires a good Romanian Minister of Transportation.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 08:49 PM   #965
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Oh, but it does. It just requires a good Romanian Minister of Transportation.
So why did he mention the section as being contracted as PPP?

EDIT: now I noticed Pitesti-Sibiu is funded indeed by the EU, too. Still, PPP could be applied for that section as well, IMO, with lower costs since there is already partly the financing for it from the EU.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 12:05 AM   #966
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congratulations !

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... that's mostly double tunnels and viaducts. ...
it will be a very scenic motorway
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Old January 19th, 2010, 06:38 AM   #967
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Thanks. There is talk that one of the double tunnels will be as long as 4 km long!
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Old January 19th, 2010, 09:47 AM   #968
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it will be a very scenic motorway
here's a video with some renders and pictures from where this motorway will be built.

http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/economi...cosmaruri.html
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here's a video with some renders and pictures from where this motorway will be built.

http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/economi...cosmaruri.html
very, very impressive. I cannot wait to take a drive !
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Old January 19th, 2010, 10:23 AM   #970
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here's a video with some renders and pictures from where this motorway will be built.

http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/economi...cosmaruri.html

That's not a motorway, but a series of viaducts and tunnels! It's gonna be awesome!
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Old January 19th, 2010, 11:41 AM   #971
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This a good news indeed after hearing for many times that "the contract will be signed soon". Hopefully the contract has been made really well without surprises a la Bechtel.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 12:10 PM   #972
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This a good news indeed after hearing for many times that "the contract will be signed soon". Hopefully the contract has been made really well without surprises a la Bechtel.
The main difference is that Bechtel is not a PPP, therefore Bechtel does not finance the construction like Vinci does. Also, contrary to Bechtel contract, this is a fix price, meaning any fluctuation of costs is within the investor's risk, not in the risk of the government like in Bechtel contract's case. Finally, this contract was awarded following a tender with international contractors (the other competitors were Strabag and Bilfinger Berger - Porr who offered a higher price), unlike Bechtel who was simply awarded the contract.

In addition, I learned that Romania cannot take anymore loans this year, to fit within the budget deficit agreed for Erozone accession, that's why they chose PPP, where the RO gov's debt to Vinci is delayed until construction is completed. It seems it was the only solution to sign and start construction on this section this year, and not delay it indefinitelly, the very worst case scenario indeed.


PS: The legal consultant for the government was the best law firm in Romania for such contracts.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #973
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The terrain is a very difficult one (hilly) so they have to build many viaducts. In any case, after 2 years, the contractor delivered 42 km last year, with many other km being U/C and they are advancing pretty fast. Transylvania motorway (about 300 km of it) will be completed by the end of 2013.
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That's something that very few people know or understand ...

“Normally in hilly ground, we would use the excavated soil from the cuttings to fill the valleys,” says Bogdan Sgarcitu, external affairs manager of construction company Bechtel. “But on this stretch the clay-like soil cannot be compacted, so we’ve had to use many more piles than normal: in just three months we installed more than 500, some drilled as deep as 24 metres. We’ve also had to transport millions of tonnes of materials over some less-than-perfect infrastructure.”
http://unitedkingdom.cat.com/cda/fil...om%2006.08.pdf

http://www.unibuc.ro/uploads_ro/47886/930/Pop.pdf

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Old January 19th, 2010, 06:53 PM   #974
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Ze motorway:



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Old January 20th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #975
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The transportation minister here said this section's plans include 30 km of double tunnels and 8 km of viaducts, out of a total lenght of 55 km.
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Romanian Transports Ministry To Implement Electronic Toll Sticker As Of August 1

The electronic system for the issue and control of Romanian toll stickers will become active on August 1 and drivers without proof of payment will have to pay compensations between EUR28 and EUR1,210, depending on the type of vehicle, in addition to fines.

Funds raised from compensations will constitute extra revenue for the National Road and Highway Company CNADNR and amount to the price per year of a toll sticker, according to a press release by the Ministry of Transports and Infrastructure, issued Thursday to MEDIAFAX.

The Transports Ministry has developed a draft Government decision to implement the system.

"The system will allow the automatic monitoring of all vehicles, by visually identifying license plates recorded in traffic, the geographic location where the recording was made and will permit on-field inspections," the press release said.

CNADNR will track sample traffic and transmit the identification data of vehicles suspected of traveling illegally to field inspection personnel.

Early this year, CNADNR selected the Novensys Corporation/UTI Systems consortium to deliver the system, in a contract worth 35.96 million lei (EUR1=RON4.1440), VAT not included.
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If you drive by, you better have the sticker on!
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Old January 21st, 2010, 06:12 PM   #977
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Will this be similar to the Hungarian system?
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I am not sure I understand as of now how the system will work, but basically I think they'll put sensors on the roads which will scan the car plates and check wheter the respective cars have the sticker paid.

How's the Hungarian system?

Edit: if you are referring to the toll booths, we're not having those except to some bridges. The tolling system is that people should buy tickets from gasoline stations generally or from the customs booths (if you are entering the country).
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Old January 21st, 2010, 06:28 PM   #979
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when you buy the "sticker", your plate number is registered in the system. There are fixed and mobile cameras (usually a Renault Clio with a camera on the top) looking at the plates and matching them with the data in the system. Sometimes you are stopped at a rest area and asked to show the receipt of the e-vignette.
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when you buy the "sticker", your plate number is registered in the system. There are fixed and mobile cameras (usually a Renault Clio with a camera on the top) looking at the plates and matching them with the data in the system. Sometimes you are stopped at a rest area and asked to show the receipt of the e-vignette.
Thanks BND. I think it will be a similar system.

Here, when you buy the sticker, you also register the car into a national electronic system. Probably they will also use scanners on patrol cars (which are used currently on motorways but will possibly be used on other European roads) and check the number of the car vs. the registration in the national electronic system.
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