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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #1521
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Thank you for your explanations, think I got it.

One question though: is the RO gov-Bechtel contract open to public?Cause always there are misteries &question marks, when it comes to discuss this subject? or maybe some unofficial leaks
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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:26 PM   #1522
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Thank you for your explanations, think I got it.

One question though: is the RO gov-Bechtel contract open to public?Cause always there are misteries &question marks, when it comes to discuss this subject? or maybe some unofficial leaks
It was something close to a state secret, but after many media scandals it was published in full.

It's on Ministry of Transport's site
http://www.mt.ro/bechtel/contract%20bechtel.pdf

It's in Romanian.

AFAIK that's the full contract.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:46 PM   #1523
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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:47 PM   #1524
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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #1525
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Thank you for your explanations, think I got it.
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Ionut posted something, though I think it's a proposal for renegotiation. I do not think the entire contract is public.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:51 PM   #1526
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Old August 6th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #1527
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Old August 6th, 2010, 01:46 PM   #1528
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LOL It's funny. The IDM on that building looks an awful lot like IBM
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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #1529
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Good news! It seems that the Lugoj motorway bypass (9.4km) will be opened most probably during the next week. Although I knew they were working on this bypass, I had no idea it would be motorway standard and part of the A1. However, it is quite strange that Lugoj bypass does not appear as a separate sector of A1 on the CNADNR official site.

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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #1530
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It's not a motorway. It's a 2x1 ordinary road with large shoulders, similar to DN2.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #1531
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Where is this Lugoj bypass exactly?

I guess A1 could serve Lugoj, but to me it looks like it will only pass Lugoj on the north, not really functioning as a bypass for traffic from Drobeta-Turnu Severin or Reşiţa.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #1532
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Here's a link to a map on the Romanian language forum http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1222.

It is closer to the town than the future A1
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Old August 10th, 2010, 11:08 PM   #1533
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It's not a motorway. It's a 2x1 ordinary road with large shoulders, similar to DN2.
Yes, it's not a motorway, it's rather a by-pass close to an expressway. A very good progress in terms of by-passes nonetheless. More and more opened by-passes recently clear the traffic away from cities.
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Romania is gonna need a boatload of bypasses, there are countless villages and larger towns where there are no bypasses.
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Where is this Lugoj bypass exactly?

I guess A1 could serve Lugoj, but to me it looks like it will only pass Lugoj on the north, not really functioning as a bypass for traffic from Drobeta-Turnu Severin or Reşiţa.
Yes, indeed. However in the future it is forecasted to be build the southern branch of the coridor no 4. So from Lugoj a new motorway will go to the south to Caransebes- Drobeta- (Calafat)- Craiova- Caracal- Alexandria- Bucuresti.
It is a question how they will link this motorway with Calafat. From several maps posted here the idea would be to make a link between Calafat and Craiova. However the main purpose of Calafat- Vidin bridge is to overtake the heavy traffic from balcanic peninsula to the western europe, not to Craiova- Bucharest. If i look the map it will be a big detour if they chose the way through Craiova (like a triangle).
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Old August 11th, 2010, 12:09 AM   #1536
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Good news! It seems that the Lugoj motorway bypass (9.4km) will be opened most probably during the next week. Although I knew they were working on this bypass, I had no idea it would be motorway standard and part of the A1. However, it is quite strange that Lugoj bypass does not appear as a separate sector of A1 on the CNADNR official site.

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Lugoj bypass is not a motorway and defenetly it is not a part of A1. It is just a bypass road
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Old August 11th, 2010, 12:28 AM   #1538
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The Romanian ambition to create 1000 km of highways before 2015-2020 seems quite low. The country is very big and has 20 million inhabitants, you would expect a network of at least 2000 km would be a good basis to support transit traffic and economic growth. But at this rate it will take another 20 years before 2000 km is reached.
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I think it depends on the Romanian state budget. It is increasing pretty fast (it almost tripled between 2007 and 2010), but a country like Romania must spend at least € 4 - 5 billion per year to keep up with the rest of Europe. A healthy economy can spend about 2% of GDP on highway construction. I don't think Romania is there yet.

I also believe EU should co-finance more projects, there are plenty of E-routes running through Romania.

It seems like Romania followed Poland's example; first quickly renovate the main roads, then begin constructing motorways. But the pace is still very, very slow. A 150 - 200 km of new motorway each year is at least needed for the next 10 years. Two long-distance motorways don't make a network.

In developed countries like Western Europe, almost all 100,000 + cities are connected to the motorway network and with each other. The way I see it, a completed Romanian motorway-expressway network is at least 4,000 kilometer long. However, Western European countries also took 20 years to complete their main network, with another 20 years for additions. You can't have it all in 10 years, although it is badly needed.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #1540
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The Romanian ambition to create 1000 km of highways before 2015-2020 seems quite low. The country is very big and has 20 million inhabitants, you would expect a network of at least 2000 km would be a good basis to support transit traffic and economic growth. But at this rate it will take another 20 years before 2000 km is reached.

Des, Cris is right! We barelly have the money to develop this 1,000 km of motorway by 2020 (rather irrealistic target already). It's not about what we want but what we afford.
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