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Old August 11th, 2010, 10:19 AM   #1541
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I think it depends on the Romanian state budget. It is increasing pretty fast (it almost tripled between 2007 and 2010), but a country like Romania must spend at least € 4 - 5 billion per year to keep up with the rest of Europe. A healthy economy can spend about 2% of GDP on highway construction. I don't think Romania is there yet..
Romania spends now less than 1 bilion EUR/year on motorways. I think the amount is about 6-700 million. Which is about 0.5% of its GDP. That's how much we afford. When we'll be able to spend at least 1% of GDP on motorways, a totally different rate of construction will be. Maybe next year hopefully.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 01:11 PM   #1542
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New pictures from Bucharest-Moara Vlasiei section of A3 (20 km):











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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:25 AM   #1543
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This is the node that links the motorway with the Bucharest ring.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 03:35 PM   #1544
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I think this is the 2x3 section of A3, right?
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Old August 14th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #1545
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I think this is the 2x3 section of A3, right?
Considering the pile width in the pictures above, it doesn't look like a 2x3 motorway.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 10:33 AM   #1546
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on January this year I was exchanging comments about your national motorway construction plan in this thread. that time I was assuming about 1000 km would be constructed by 2020. Romanian collegues were opted for something like 2000 km (up to 2700 km)

now could you revise your anticipation ? based on what was done so far
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Old August 14th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #1547
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on January this year I was exchanging comments about your national motorway construction plan in this thread. that time I was assuming about 1000 km would be constructed by 2020. Romanian collegues were opted for something like 2000 km (up to 2700 km)

now could you revise your anticipation ? based on what was done so far
It's too soon, in my opinion, to talk about how many km of motorway will be constructed in the next 10-15 years.

We need around 4000 km to really have a decent motorway system. Maybe 4000 km in 50 years (80 km/year) is a realistic prediction.

Right now, I hardly see more than 80-100km/year of new motorway in RO. This year will be around 30 km, if any.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 11:09 AM   #1548
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Construction speed will probably increase in later years.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 11:56 AM   #1549
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it means it is going to take up to 40 years altogether.


who knows what the EU transport approach for next 40 years is ? what are the goals ?

offtopic: still the Spanish case remains mystery

( I mean how they did so much within so limited time )
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Old August 14th, 2010, 06:43 PM   #1550
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A few days ago, while browsing through a few month's old issue of a Serbian weekly magazine, I came across a map showing Ceauşescu's motorway network plan for Romania - I wonder if anyone has a digital version of that? I don't have the mag anymore or I'd scan it myself
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Old August 14th, 2010, 06:56 PM   #1551
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Do you mean this thread on a Romanian road forum?

http://vremautostrazi.forumotion.net...5-1989-t14.htm

"Istoria autostrazilor in Romania - perioada 1965 - 1989"
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Old August 14th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #1552
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Logically, that should be it - but the one I saw looked very much different. I'll see if I can get that magazine next week and maybe scan it myself
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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #1553
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@ Chris: thank you for the link. That is the map indeed, and it's pretty close to the plan now with some exceptions (I mean the current plan is less ambitious, if you believe it ).

@ CS: Looking forward to the map.

@ and802: I think things need to be revised on account of the crisis, but the lack of major progress is simply due to the lack of money to even continue with the exiting projects. But Chris is right: this year is an exception IMO that we see only about 30 km opened. In the coming years, we'll see more.



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Transp Min: Works On Cernavoda-Constanta Hwy, Bucharest-Constanta Railway Finalized In 2011

Romanian Transport Minister Radu Berceanu on Sunday said the highway linking Cernavoda to Constanta, southeastern Romania, will be finalized until the end of 2011, but drivers might be able to use one lane as of June 2011, when upgrade works on the Bucharest-Constanta railway are also finalized.

Berceanu added that construction works on the Medgidia - Constanta highway sector are "a little behind schedule" and stressed he plans to run more checkups at the construction site, maybe even alongside Prime Minister Emil Boc, in order to step up works.

The minister said three consortiums of companies are in charge with construction works. He stressed, however, that it isn't only their fault that works are behind schedule, because, he went on saying, several archaeological vestiges required changes in the highway route on nearly five kilometers, which stalled works.

Mid-July, Berceanu said modernization works on the railway linking capital Bucharest to southeastern Constanta will be finalized in July 2011, and a train ride on that distance will take two and a half hours.

Works on the railway, which is part of the fourth pan-European transportation corridor, were supposed to be completed this year. However, after the completion of upgrade works on the railway, passenger trains will be able to reach speeds up to 160 kilometers/hour, while freight trains will be able to reach up to 120 kilometers/hour.

Early August, Boc said authorities plan to finish works on beltways around Sibiu, Cluj, Turnu Severin and Lugoj and continue works on two highways. He added at the time the Government also plans to finish in 2010 works on beltways around Sibiu (central Romania), Cluj (northwestern Romania), Turnu Severin (southwestern Romania) and Lugoj (western Romania), a few kilometers of the Transylvania Highway (which is to link central Brasov to western Bors on the border with Hungary).

The Government also wants to continue works on the highway linking capital Bucharest to southeastern Constanta and the beltway around Bucharest.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #1554
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I'll post a few pictures of a weekend trip I took on the Transalpina (an alipne road similar to Transfagarasan, only higher - about 2000 m - and longer - almost 60 km). As you will see, the road is still U/C but most of it is already completed (about 45 km of the 60 km), with only road markings, water canals and concrete side bumpers needed. Also, you'll notice the scenery is breathtaking:



I had to climb a 45 degree mountain peak to take these pics. So be thankful










This part of the road is completed, but they need to mark it, place the concrete bumpers and the water canals:




This is how it looks from the side of the road - this is a few hundred meters ravene


Here it is marked:


This is through a small mountain resort called Ranca:


This is how it looks with the concrete bumpers and water canals:























When I have more time, maybe I'll post a full trip report.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #1555
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Nice!
Maps say this road is DN 67C. So this was an unpaved main road until recently? There can't be too many unpaved main roads in Europe left.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:52 PM   #1556
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It was built during communism but left in disrepair until a year or two ago when these repair and upgrade works were started. There are a few tourist projects with EU money there, one of the being the construction of few ski slopes, one of 23 km long, as well as ski lifts. It'll turn into a hiking and skiing hotspot in a few years.
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Old August 16th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #1557
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A few more and I am gone:


Trucks at work + the systems of walls proping the side of the road (walls are made in the style of Roman walls, from rock dug out from the mountain:


A picture from another section:



















A scary one - on the left there is a deep ravine:




One can see this picturesque image pretty often on the sides of the road - giving me the badass look not to disturb the sheep herd

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Old August 16th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #1558
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I was in Romania 4 times.

based on your pictures, still next day I would pack my bags and go to Romania
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Does anyone know if the road is open for the full length? Two years ago there were still construction works blocking it - you had to stop your car at some point (and start walking)
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Old August 16th, 2010, 02:06 PM   #1560
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I was in Romania 4 times.

based on your pictures, still next day I would pack my bags and go to Romania
You are welcome. Please follow the trip report I'll post later on about this road.

BTW: Where have you been in Romania so far?
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