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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:31 PM   #1941
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What are the construction parameters of romaniana motorways?
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:32 PM   #1942
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thanks for the pictures

also, check AT/Bechtel webpage as they update the picture gallery with pictures from October here
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:35 PM   #1943
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What are the construction parameters of romaniana motorways?
What do you mean? Technical parameters? I think they are the same as in any EU country.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:37 PM   #1944
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thanks for the pictures

also, check AT/Bechtel webpage as they update the picture gallery with pictures from October here
I think the pictures are not very up to date, especialy for the Turda-Campia Turzii section. As for 3c, it's good to see works are continuing.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:30 PM   #1945
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I'll post here the 3 Romanian branches for Via Carpatia motorway project, appproved to day in Poland

The Romanian section of Via Carpatia is basically overlapping A1, A2, A3 motorways, future southern branch of C IV, and the so-caled C XI route in Romania:










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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:06 PM   #1946
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Shouldn't Bucharest-Alexandroupolis be part of Via Carpatia as well?
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:10 PM   #1947
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I do not have the final proposals. These are from 2008. I asked on the Polish forum if they have them, so let's see what they say.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:25 PM   #1948
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What do you mean? Technical parameters? I think they are the same as in any EU country.
Not all EU countries have the same parameters and contruction speed, it is just my curiosity.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:42 PM   #1949
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What are the construction parameters of romaniana motorways?
AFAIK is something like this:
  • 2 x 3,75 m lanes in each direction
  • 1 x 3,50 m hard shoulder in each direction
  • central crash barrier to divide traffic
  • no cross-traffic (only multi-level junctions allowed)
  • 130 km/h design speed
  • climbing lane for trucks if necessary
There might be other parameters too...
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 12:39 AM   #1950
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Via Carpatia - new European route that includes Romania

***(a.k.a. 'Via Carpathia')

Representatives of transport ministries from seven European countries on Friday in Poland signed a declaration by which a new European route will be extended to Romania, Bulgaria and Greece, thus connecting the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. The route will begin in Lithuanbia, at Kaunas, and then continue in Poland between Bialystok - Lublin - Rzeszow, in Slovakia at Presov - Koszice and in Hungary through Miskolc - Debrecen, according to Mediafax.

On Romanian territory, the route will have two directions, one to Constanta sea harbor, through Oradea - Arad - Timisoara - Lugoj - Deva - Sibiu - Pitesti - Bucharest - Constanta, and one to the Romanian-Bulgarian border, to the future Calafat-Vidin bridge over the Danube, through Oradea - Arad - Timisoara - Lugoj - Drobeta Turnu Severin - Vinju Mare(***) - Calafat, which offers the possibility of extending the Via Carpatia project to the European Union's southern border.

Via Carpatia project was approved in 2006, when transport ministers from Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia and Hungary signed a joint declaration to extend the trans-European transit network by creating a shorter route between the north and south, connecting all four states.

Thus, the Via Carpatia route will connect Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece.
http://www.bucharestherald.ro/touris...cludes-romania

***Vânju Mare (also spelled Vînju Mare) on the map. As you can see it is situated just south of Drobeta - Turnu Severin and the route goes straight to Vidin - Calafat bridge (leaving Craiova out)...



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Old October 23rd, 2010, 09:43 AM   #1951
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Yep, the Vidin-Calafat bridge is also part of the route, but I am not sure how accurate is the article. Normally, from the maps I've seen so far, the south branch of C IV includes Craiova, to link it further with Bucharest, as there will be a direct motorway to Bucharest or an indirect one through Pitesti (in orange), depending on the final decision. I've seen in other maps Craiova linked to the southern branch by 2 motorways too, as in the map below, where the C IV goes through Vanju Mare as in the article. But in any case, Craiova will be part of the motorway system there. This is also part of an agreement with Ford so the government will not go away from that route.

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Old October 23rd, 2010, 09:56 AM   #1952
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I'm relieved that there won't be another zig-zag to Craiova and back.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:14 PM   #1953
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I just remembered the pictures I posted above. This is the Via Carpatia, RO branch 2. As you see, it goes through Craiova and not directly to Calafat:


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I'll post here the 3 Romanian branches for Via Carpatia motorway project, appproved to day in Poland

The Romanian section of Via Carpatia is basically overlapping A1, A2, A3 motorways, future southern branch of C IV, and the so-caled C XI route in Romania:

But IMO the U-TURN should be closed there as in my map above.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:47 PM   #1954
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Yep, the Vidin-Calafat bridge is also part of the route, but I am not sure how accurate is the article. Normally, from the maps I've seen so far, the south branch of C IV includes Craiova, to link it further with Bucharest, as there will be a direct motorway to Bucharest or an indirect one through Pitesti (in orange), depending on the final decision. I've seen in other maps Craiova linked to the southern branch by 2 motorways too, as in the map below, where the C IV goes through Vanju Mare as in the article. But in any case, Craiova will be part of the motorway system there. This is also part of an agreement with Ford so the government will not go away from that route.

I don't mind the Romanian government building in whichever order the sides of the triangle Calafat-Craiova-Drobeta Turnu Severin as long as there are plans to build them. Anyway you didn't manage to cool down my enthusiasm
As for the motorway Craiova-Bucharest, it depends on your transport priorities. Few bulgarians will use this route to Bucharest. IMHO, it's good for Bucharest to be connected with DB-II via the shortest motorway route possible, as it will be the fastest route to south-western Balkans(~5capitols).
Moreover, a south motorway will be useful if we build more bridges over the Danube between Calafat and Giurgiu and I hope we will. Especially, if bulgarian governments fail to build a decent motorway connection between Sofia and DB-I and I think they will.
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Sibiu bypass - October updates

For an easier understanding of where my pictures were taken, I made a small .kml file which can be downloaded from here. Now the photos:

1. Start project of the bypass, featuring the overpass over the National Route 1/7 (DN1/7) and the overpass over Sibiu-Braşov railway:





2. The secondary road DJ106 Sibiu-Agnita is overpassing the bypass but the overpass is not yet open for traffic:






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3. The acces from/towards the Industrial Area East and some pics of the motorway in that area:





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4. Works undergoing at the end project of the bypass, where the secondary road DJ106B Sibiu-Ocna Sibiului connects the National Route 1/7 (DN1/7). Except for the enlargement of the intersection, a small roundabout will be built there:










A view from DJ106B towards the National Route 1/7 (DN1/7):

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5. The rehabilitation of DJ106B is almost completed:




In the background - the provisional roundabout to be built at the end of the motorway and on the right - the motorway itself:








The optical cable belonging to Romtelecom has fell as an innocent victim of the works :

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6. The final works for the provisional roundabout:







In the background - DJ106B:



This is the end of the motorway:




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I don't mind the Romanian government building in whichever order the sides of the triangle Calafat-Craiova-Drobeta Turnu Severin as long as there are plans to build them. Anyway you didn't manage to cool down my enthusiasm
The south branch of C IV will have to become U/C in 2013-2014, when EU funds will become available for that section.

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As for the motorway Craiova-Bucharest, it depends on your transport priorities. Few bulgarians will use this route to Bucharest. IMHO, it's good for Bucharest to be connected with DB-II via the shortest motorway route possible, as it will be the fastest route to south-western Balkans(~5capitols).
The motorway linking Bucharest to Craiova is necessary for the following main reasons:
1. connection needed between Bucharest and C IV (south)
2. connection needed between Bucharest and DB II;
3. connection needed between Bucharest and C XI.

For those reasons, C IV (south) must go through Craiova as well.

Also, as I mentioned, it was also an agreement with Ford.

It remains to be seen where the funds could come from. EU could be a possibility.

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Moreover, a south motorway will be useful if we build more bridges over the Danube between Calafat and Giurgiu and I hope we will.
Exactly!
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