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Old April 17th, 2013, 06:46 AM   #661
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Jägerstrasse 48 - NEW BERLIN STYLE

Another refined example of the classical New Berlin Style - Jägerstrasse 48 (Belles Etages),
close to Gendarmenmarkt:

Architects: NPS Tchoban Voss
[IMG]http://i47.************/9fvcsi.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i49.************/fk89wp.jpg[/IMG]
Source: http://www.nps-tchoban-voss.de/proje...&b=2&pg=0&nr=0

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Neubauprojekt der Groth Gruppe aus der Jägerstraße 48:

http://www.neubaudirekt.de/wp-conten...Fenansicht.jpg

Momentan sieht es dort so aus:


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Lame and outdated.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #663
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You just described yourself, representing modernist stupidity that is older than half a century.


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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:13 AM   #664
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@erbse, the problem is that you come up with bricks and stones towards anyone who doesn't share your architectural and planning views. Everyone who doesn't like your favorite styles is "bigoted" or "stupid" or "idiot". You even used to throw your moderator card to shut up people who didn't like what you love back in the day, saying you'd brig people who were saying "absurdities" (= disagreeing with your taste).

At the same time, you also have little or no respect for diverging opinion that support styles and planning models you hate. So either way (liking what your dislike or disliking what you like), people who don't think like you are doomed.

The project you just referenced is a prime example in mediocrity. Is has that horrible receded top floor, round balconies that scream 1920 and, the horror, project themselves over the sidewalk, partially, instead of having the whole building being receded by couple meters or so.

The ground floor windows are lame, instead of investing on security glass panels they use those iron covers to make it safer, giving it the appearance of cheapness or, worse, being some police facility.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #665
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You posted some random one-liner and you can expect a one-liner in return.

Have a nice day. Elsewhere...
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Old April 17th, 2013, 12:24 PM   #666
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It's okay to disagree on projects, but please tell us more details why you dislike certain buildings, not only with two or three words. That way the discussion will be more fruitful.
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It's okay to disagree on projects, but please tell us more details why you dislike certain buildings, not only with two or three words. That way the discussion will be more fruitful.
Will do (actually have done on the post below).

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Iy has that horrible receded top floor, round balconies that scream 1920 and, the horror, project themselves over the sidewalk, partially, instead of having the whole building being receded by couple meters or so.

The ground floor windows are lame, instead of investing on security glass panels they use those iron covers to make it safer, giving it the appearance of cheapness or, worse, being some police facility.
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Why do you call that "Berlin Style"? These projects are an absolute minority in Berlin. Only they are the only ones posted here. Personally, I think Neotraditionalism doesn't make a good building. There's more to it, as you can see above. The building looks terribly boring, uninspired and kitschy (worst are the low floor heights). Also, although I don't like to admit this myself, all those luxury appartments are sucking all the life out of the city.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 03:18 AM   #669
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It looks a bit boring from the rendering...

With great cladding, like the Taunusturm in Frankfurt, this could become a minimalist masterpiece.
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Autostädter:

1st) Since Stimmann, Kollhoff and Patzschke, an early-modern / traditionalist style is prevalent in Berlin. I.e. since the early 90s. This wasn't a trend or movement before in Berlin or Germany, but since then it is. Rooted in Berlin, that's why I call it "New Berlin Style" - it's the only distinctive style Berlin developped since reunification.

In addition, it's not a minority style anymore. There's such projects going up anywhere. I toured Berlin just recently and discovered loads of such projects.

2nd) I agree, there's room for improvement regarding Jägerstr. 48. Low floor heights are the biggest issue there. But it's still better than most of the stuff investors and modernists come up with. Because it's more harmonious, it's integrating, it's supporting the streetscape without creating even more futile breaks or contrasts in Berlin's aggrieved streets.

3rd) Luxury projects are what Berlin is in need of. It undoubtedly needs more purchasing power and economic drive. Compared to other European metropolises, the Berlin luxury segment pales in tinyness. The city shouldn't be kept from breathing, it needs room to develop such a segment. Other places will turn more interesting for the scene then. Many neighborhoods are in bad need of some "gentrification" to maintain the historical buildings.

Berlin will always be a city of big contrasts. That's what it makes interesting.
It won't turn into a ghetto for the rich, be awake to that.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 09:31 AM   #671
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Goslarer Ufer - Apartment Highrises in Charlottenburg, at the River Spree

Quite elegant residential highrises project in Berlin-Charlottenburg, right at the river Spree:

Goslarer Ufer (Goslar embankments)

German info:
Project Immobilien errichtet 93 Wohnungen am Berliner Spree Ufer

Wohnensemble am Goslarer Ufer in Berlin geplant


In direkter Wasserlage an der Spree in Berlin-Charlottenburg errichtet der Projektentwickler PROJECT Immobilien das Mehrfamilienhaus-Ensemble Goslarer Ufer. Auf einem 6.000 Quadratmeter großen Wassergrundstück direkt am Ufer der Spree errichtet der Projektentwickler sein jüngstes Bauvorhaben: Goslarer Ufer.



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"New Berlin Style", too?

Well, at least it has a somewhat southern elegance to it, something you could call "Miami Appeal". Not typically Berlin at all costs, but it sure is a nice place to live and adds something to the upper class real estate market of Berlin.
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Looks great but I could imagine how big will be the mosquitoes in those flat. Bigger than those geese. I'll never live in a place like that.
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Think: Actually mosquitoes aren't too common close to the Spree, because it's a river of some magnitude, not a stagnant water / pond..
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Think: Actually mosquitoes aren't too common close to the Spree, because it's a river of some magnitude, not a stagnant water / pond..
I lived in a place exactly like that, in a river with more magnitude, and it was insufferable. Also here there is not only the Spree, but a channel. And it's not only the water, it's the vegetation, the open spaces... it bring me back nightmares of were I lived.
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Well, in my hometown in Mecklenburg I live right at a lake, with the forest in the back and greenery all around... couldn't complain really. It's rather the ants that become annoying sometimes.

I remember badass mosquitoe plagues in Sweden though. Unbearable doesn't define the nightmare half properly.
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Wonderful harbour quarter project in Potsdam, right in front of Berlin's citygates - almost everything's new here:

SPEICHERSTADT POTSDAM (German project thread) - translates to city of warehouses, compare to world-famous Speicherstadt Hamburg

http://www.speicherstadt-in-potsdam.de/











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^ Current progress of Potsdam Speicherstadt:





all by SSC user Ludi: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1611311
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STRALAUER ALLEE - Luxury apartments at the river Spree (MediaSpree, Friedrichshain)

Fresh luxury residential project proposed for the river Spree banks at Stralauer Allee in Friedrichshain, between Coca Cola and MTV.

It's near the famous Oberbaum Bridge connecting the district to Kreuzberg (part of the project MediaSpree):

According to the project's website, construction starts in 3rd quarter of 2013 and 65 upper-class apartments will be built there.

The white streamline-modern building here:

Source: Wulff Hanseatische Bauträger GmbH / http://www.eingrundmehr.de/cms-neu/ (page 3)
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