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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM   #1041
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Who said that?
You. And you still do.

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I believe everyone has rights to live in a place as long as one has the income to pay for it. I also believe, on a city-level (not on a neighborhood-level, not
on a building-level), there should be policies that can accommodate people of all income spectrums to an extent.
So poorer people can actually live in your city (to an extent)? That's noble. All areas (except maybe extremely wealthy areas, especially outside the city) should be socially mixed. The reason why are obvious and have been stated many times already. Naturally, even in a socially mixed city much of the working class often live in the outer areas, due to historical reasons (they were moved there in the 50s and 60s) and due to the fact that the cheapest apartments will always be there. That doesn't mean we should aim for the rest of the poor to move there as well. No ghettos thanks. In gentrifying areas planners and developers have a responsibility to respect the original social makeup of the place.

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I just don't believe the right way to do it is to carve out space for low-income housing on the most expensive areas of a city. I also don't see what can be bad about having low-income housing districts located in the same metro area, but - say - 20-30 min. away by subway or fast commuter train.
You really haven't thought this trough have you?

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Ideally, yes. Only a few buildings from each era, presumably the most representative ones, should be preserved.
That's nothing short of historical falsification. Not to mention that converted factories, warehouses etc make wonderful office, cultural, commercial and residential spaces.

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Else, cities would need several times their footprint if no building was ever demolished.
What utter nonsense! In many cities very little has been demolished and they're doing just fine. Attractive, successful and loved historic buildings can and should be renovated, preserved and modernized, because they are ultimately what people want and part of our heritage.

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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:25 PM   #1042
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Cool idea however this building is so flat and uninteresting.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #1043
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Another "Tobias Noefer / Nöfer" building in Berlin.


















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Thats how it looks for now: https://maps.google.de/maps?ie=UTF-8...ed=0CD4QxB0wAQ
It's amazing. About time the first European Classic Architecture School is founded. The Berlin Bauakademie, ruling from the Schinkel building in the heart of Berlin.

A phalanx against stupid, globally exchangeable and faceless modernism screwing up our cities in Europe and the world.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #1044
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Wow, that's a great one again! It's both modern yet traditional. looks super classy!

Erbse, weren't you going to open a thread about the New Berlin Classicism?
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Old November 19th, 2013, 03:31 PM   #1045
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Another "Tobias Noefer / Nöfer" building in Berlin.


















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Thats how it looks for now: https://maps.google.de/maps?ie=UTF-8...ed=0CD4QxB0wAQ
Really like it. Has far more character than a lot of the cheap and banal apartment buildings that have been going up in London in recent years.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #1046
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In gentrifying areas planners and developers have a responsibility to respect the original social makeup of the place.
No, they don't.

You are assuming that everything about the population of a city or neighborhood should stay the same forever. Cities are dynamic, especially cities like Berlin, the makeup of population changes all the time, gentrification being present or not.

Moreover, in many cases (like many of these Berlin projects recently shown here), you need a population with better income to be able to afford costs that would justify the projects being built first place.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #1047
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No, they don't.

You are assuming that everything about the population of a city or neighborhood should stay the same forever. Cities are dynamic, especially cities like Berlin, the makeup of population changes all the time, gentrification being present or not.
No. I said developers need to respect the social makeup. Change (for the better) is always welcome, population displacement is not.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #1048
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Kronprinzengärten finaly are coming! After big trubble with the "Friedrichswerder Church" next to this project, the construction now can go on.

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http://www.kronprinzengaerten.de/#/de i like the video
More about this great project in the german SSC-Thread.

At last they worked on stabilizing the Friedrichswerder Church next to the excavation by pushing nother concrete piles next to the old wooden stakes.

The church was in danger of collapse, there were fissures in the walls of the church after first works next to the church...

Sensors now controlling the church during works.

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Old November 21st, 2013, 05:26 AM   #1049
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The project I am the most thrilled, to see it finally being build. Love the mixture of traditional and modern!
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 01:51 PM   #1050
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 02:02 PM   #1051
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Zillestrasse 107 - refurbishment of an old building

This old building here gets refurbished





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Old November 22nd, 2013, 08:10 PM   #1052
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Lost opportunity! They leave the facade completely bare, as it is right now. They could at least, like most of the recent renovations, rusticate* the first floor facade.

*It's probably not the right English expression. I am talking about a "rustiziertes Sockelgeschoss".
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 02:37 AM   #1053
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Orber Strasse 8 district Charlottenburg - refurbishment of an old building







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Old November 23rd, 2013, 04:01 AM   #1054
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The project is okay, the windows have too many stitched panels.
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No, they don't. It's like they were built in the first place.

But the building could need some ornaments or at least fine colourful contrasts. Alpina-white, huh...
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 10:36 PM   #1056
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Torstrasse 224 - Tor Lofts - district Mitte

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Old November 24th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #1057
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Very good project. I like the forms, the big windows, the uncluttered façade and the sleek slab lines.
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Hessegardens - Herman-Hesse-Strasse district Pankow



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Old November 24th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #1059
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