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Old December 5th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #1121
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...and an emergency exit on the 5th floor is still an emergency exit - it just doesn't benefit anyone who doesn't want to commit suicide.
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Old December 6th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #1122
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19th century architecture has stood the test of time. The same can't really be said about a lot of the stuff built between the 1920s and 70s.
That "new" stile you love is a 20-30 stile
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Old December 7th, 2013, 03:02 AM   #1123
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It's echoing different eras, some buildings of the New Berlin Style cite 19th century architecture, some take elements of Streamline Moderne, German Expressionism and mingle it with new elements. But after all, it's a timeless and very modern style.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #1124
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It's echoing different eras, some buildings of the New Berlin Style cite 19th century architecture, some take elements of Streamline Moderne, German Expressionism and mingle it with new elements. But after all, it's a timeless and very modern style.
I am pretty aware of that Erbse. i just wanted to add that he might take a closer look to what he is actually posting. Same is with you. Your so called "new berlin stile" is neither a "single" stile nor new, as you mentioned it yourself. And constant repeating will not make it one! It just the same dogmatic blinding you accuse to all modernists.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #1125
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No, I'm just trying to give it a name because I'm too lazy to write "this historicist/neoclassical/classic-modern architecture style that recently became somewhat specific for Berlin" every time I'm talking about it.

In addition it is rather new for today's Berlin, since it's used only since the 90s and wasn't for almost 70 years in retrospective.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #1126
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3. finalist for Axel Springer Media Campus!

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Old December 16th, 2013, 04:26 AM   #1127
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Great stuff... especially the first designs... though slightly reminiscent of OMA's proposal for Hamburg.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 08:48 AM   #1128
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Great stuff... especially the first designs... though slightly reminiscent of OMA's proposal for Hamburg.
BIG one looks great
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Old December 16th, 2013, 09:36 AM   #1129
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Hopefully one of the first two designs will eventually be chosen. I'm really waiting for some bold, crazy architecture in Berlin. Not just the same bland old boxes, like in the last years...
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Old December 16th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #1130
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Hopefully one of the first two designs will eventually be chosen. I'm really waiting for some bold, crazy architecture in Berlin. Not just the same bland old boxes, like in the last years...
Isnt Koolhass just a big Box with a hole? Cant see anything innovative besides its screaming "i am big ugly and i dont care of my souroundings"

The Scheeren design is way better, but it depends on how the facade will actually look. It would work even better without the midrise next to it.
BIG instead works pretty good in conjunktion with that Midrise

While Koolhaas just sits there like a fat bunker


Please, build Scheeren or BIG

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Old December 16th, 2013, 10:49 AM   #1131
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I prefer Koolhaas. Facade looks really interesting
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Old December 16th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #1132
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I go with Buro Ole Scheeren!
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Old December 16th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #1133
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I prefer Koolhaas. Facade looks really interesting
Same here. Koolhaas' design looks smart and sexy.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #1134
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Another rendering of the Scheeren design:



The hole in the building is meant to symbolise a connection between East and West. The new building will be right next to the existing company HQ, however on the other side of the former Berlin Wall (in East Berlin). Quite original.



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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #1135
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The hole in the building is meant to symbolise a connection between East and West.
okaaaaaay? And how is this connection symboliszed? Just because of the hole?
Oh, Come on ...
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #1136
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A hole in the wall. What's your problem? I think it's fantastic.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #1137
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It'd make sense if you could actually walk through the hole (being a gate between East and West), similar to Paris' modern Grande Arche.

Anyway, all 3 designs for the Springer campus are pretty interesting and sorta impressive.
I tend to like the design of Koolhaas best so far.

Though the Ole Scheeren design would be a bold statement that Berlin could need to create high and brave designs where there's empty lots outside historical ensembles.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #1138
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That's true. If Springer wants the hole further down, it should be no problem to redesign.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #1139
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new central municipal and state library: 2 winners

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Old December 19th, 2013, 04:18 PM   #1140
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