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Old September 29th, 2006, 10:28 AM   #1
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Kopenhagen and its Metro

I was in Kopenhagen this week, tested out their Metro and walked, walked and walked alot. It`s such a nice city actually, but its pollution I think must be some of worlds worst polluted cities.


Why? There are driving cars everywhere! Everywhere! And with only 2 small Metro lines, it dosent cover city at all.


So, here is a good plan for making Kopenhagen a much better place to live in.

- Get the tram back to Kopenhagen. The streets are so big, that they could easy fit tram in the middle.

- Hava a pay toll ring arround the city, so that the public transport would gain money out of it.

- Create more Metro lines. 2 lines for a 1 million city is just to little. Warsaw only got one line, but there is tramlines everywhere which covers the city.

If the world wants to work against globalwarming and the destruction of lands, DENMARK should atleast care, because Denmark is just above the sea. Himmelbjerget is the highest point.

If the ice melts, Denmark will be gone.

I wish that Denmark started to do something about this.
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Old September 29th, 2006, 10:34 AM   #2
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Aren't you forgetting their extensive commuter rail system?
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Old September 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM   #3
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Of course, he is forgetting that...
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Old October 1st, 2006, 02:05 PM   #4
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AmiDelf,
I'm gonna try and comment your points.

First of all - Copenhagen is not a very polluted city at all, not even top 10 in Europe. I think Oslo is way more poluted (or at least it can be), because of it's location. Sure, Copenhagen has problems with car traffic, but it's not that bad in my opinion.

You're right that Copenhagen today has 2 lines in it's Metro (M) system. However, a third ring-line has been approved already.
You are also forgetting the eminent S-system which today is a true metro (and not commuter trains - that system is called the Re-system) by definition.

Although, I would love to get the tram system back both to Copenhagen and Malmo - I can't understand why they were scrapped.

I think there have been talks about having a toll system similar to that of London's, but I'm not sure about the situation today.

More lines are created, both for the M and the S system. These two systems has over 100 stations today which is quite a lot for a 1,8 million (not one million ) city.

All in all, I think Copenhagen has one of the best public transportation systems in the world in comparission to the city's size. But of course, it could always be improved!
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Old October 16th, 2006, 06:56 PM   #5
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Thanks for pionting that out.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:57 AM   #6
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COPENHAGEN | Public Transport

I haven't seen anything about this in this forum so I thought it might be nice to have a thread...

Københavns (Copenhagen) Kommune, Frederiksberg Kommune and the Danish State Government have reached an agreement for the 4th stage of the metro system.

The line will run in a circle, connecting inner city bouroughs with the centre, main train station and current metro lines. The line will run from Indre Byen (Copenhagen's centre) through Vesterbro, Frederiksberg, Nørrebro, and Østerbro. It will provide direct rail access to the city centre for inner city residents and provide a second connection to regular train services and the S-tog at Hovedbanegården (Central Station).

The line will be 100% underground automated metro. Stations should be similar to the underground ones currently found on M1&M2 lines.

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Placed on a overhead photo of the city:


Copenhagen's Current System consists of two lines from Amager to Vanløse which join at Christianshavn. The system was built in 2002. It consists of elevated and underground track served by 100% automated trains. The trains have no driver's cabins.





All underground stations have natural light via a complex system of mirrors and glass pyramids at street level:



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Old July 30th, 2007, 02:21 AM   #7
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When was it built?
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Old July 30th, 2007, 02:27 AM   #8
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When was it built?
The current two lines were finished in 2002. An extension of the m2-line to the airport will be opened 28th september this year (5 new stations).
If I remember correct the city-ring should be finished around 2018.

For more info visit: http://www.m.dk/en/welcome.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_Metro
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Old July 30th, 2007, 02:31 AM   #9
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Here's a good map for a quick overview of most of the Copenhagen S-train and Metro network:
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Old August 1st, 2007, 03:44 AM   #10
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Awesome. With Copenhagen, you just know the stations are going to look amazing.

I wish this new ring line was running when I lived in Copenhagen. I lived beside Islands Brygge station, and my college was at Enghaev Plads. It would have been so much easier to get to
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Old August 1st, 2007, 12:09 PM   #11
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Brescia u/c metro will use the same system of Copenhagen, with automated trains and natural light in the stations.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:52 AM   #12
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That's great. It's a really expensive system, Copenhagen is doing it more to make a statement than just for transit purposes. They even say as much on the planning website. You should make a thread for Brescia, I've never heard of it before.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 03:00 AM   #13
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How much will this new line cost, and how many kilometers is it?
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There has yet to be decided which of two possible routes the kine should take through Frederiksberg (on the left of the maps), so the route could either be 14,8km or 15,4km depending on the route.

Either way, it is expected to cost somewhere between 11 and 18 billion kroner (divide by about 7,5 for Euro). There are exact numbers for each option but they're very similar and metro projects never cost exactly what was planned.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:09 AM   #15
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So somewhere between 2 and 3.5 billion Cdn. I'm just comparing that to the new line being built here, which is supposed to cost 2 billion Cdn for 19km (almost half above ground though). Interestingly, with Vancouver's line they seem to have the opposite approach - doing everything they can to do the bare minimum and keep costs down.
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Old August 3rd, 2007, 09:24 AM   #16
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If it will be circular line, is that mean that the trains will drive in one direction like clockwise, or there will be trains operating in a different direction?
And, when will the construction finish?
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There is bidirectional operation on almost all circular metro lines in the world. Unidirectional mini-loops are a very rare exception.
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Old August 3rd, 2007, 10:42 PM   #18
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It will be bi-directional. A sigle direction line would defeat the stated purpose of making transit easier in the inner city.
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Old October 17th, 2007, 07:01 AM   #19
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I've always wondered why the main train station wasn't connected to the metro system, although there is an S train connection and then transfer at Norreport.
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Nörreport is actually the busiest station in all of Denmark, plus the fact that it is more centrally located (well, both are) than the Central Station.
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