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[Jake_noypi]

Well said!

[diz]

Yes indeed.
I trust that that's true.

[Sleepwalker]

Originally Posted by manileño

ahh the perks of being a US neocolony.. our economic failure now can only be attributed to the fact that from the day we were given independence by the Americans until the 1970s and 1980s, our national economy was not allowed to grow. Instead, we were controlled by the US, and our whole economy was tied to it and made dependent on it. It wasnt our fault though, it was the law and part of the Independence package that we got in 1946. Remember Pres. Carlos Garcia's Filipino First Policy? the difference between 1950s-60s when we were "Asia's 2nd biggest economy" and now: ownership. America owned Asia's 2nd biggest economy then through Bell Trade Act and the Laurel-Langley Agreement, Filipinos own it now.. the Filipinization of industries and the transformation from a neocolonial to a National Economy became a long and arduous process though whose fruits we are only enjoying now. When we chose nationalism over being a mere "economic satellite of the US", we have indeed suffered. it's only picking up now..

Then, no matter how small our economy is, it is still something to be proud of...Kasi, sariling atin na talaga ito...

So, let's start from what we have now...Sana, tuloy tuloy na yong pag-unlad natin...

[Maxxclip]

sa hinaba-haba ng mga usapin tungkol sa ating suliraning politcal, ang lahat ay nagka-isa na ang "Nationalism" o Nasyonalismo ang unang dapat matutunan/ ma-mana ng mga pinoy sa ating mga kalapit-bansa para tayo umunlad at maging progresibong bansa.

pagdating naman sa ekonomiya, ang puntos na dapat nating tinganan/ i-konsidera ay ang agrikultura at mga proyektong pang-transportasyon (tulad ng mga tulay, sementadodng kalsada/ kalye, at mga bagong sasakyang pandagat at himpapawid).

[Mercato]

@manileño
No, no, tio. 'Twas not meant for you, but for our fili-pinoyes agringados in much earlier posts...

[Mercato]

Originally Posted by jpdm

This Nationalism thing drove Colonists to drive the British out of Union of America.

This has inspired the British to create the British Commonwealth of nations.

This has compelled Bismarck to build a unified Germany and in a few years built a powerful German industrial machinery and fueled a Nationalist Socialists regime (NAZI) that attempted to expand the german territory and restore its tarnish pride.

Errr, I don't exactly wish to draw comparisons with the Thirteen Colonies, nor of Bismarck & Prussianism, and please don't even think of Nazism.

I am merely saying we do have a home grown role model. That role model is the First Filipino Republic, wasn't it established in Imus by Aguinaldo? Yes, the First Filipino Republic and the Malolos Constitution as models for Nationalism...

[Lito]

Originally Posted by TWK90

Another product that i saw in Malaysia from your country, is probably the Blueskies biscuits...

went in KL last September
saw some Philippine product being sold in Kuala Lumpur

[Lito]

Originally Posted by RonnieR

The 10M is part of the 92M population of the PHilippines.

Official population count reveals...

88.57 million Filipinos in 2007

Final results of the latest Census of Population (POPCEN 2007) conducted by the National Statistics Office (NSO) placed the Philippine population at 88,574,614 persons as of August 1, 2007. Said results down to barangay level were made official with the signing by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo of Proclamation No. 1489 on April 16, 2008.

The total population of the Philippines in 2000 (based on the 2000 Census of Population and Housing) was 76.50 million while it was recorded at 68.62 million in 1995 (based on the 1995 Mid-Decade Census).
Census Year Census Reference Date Philippine Population (in millions)
2007 August 1, 2007 88.57
2000 May 1, 2000 76.50
1995 September 1, 1995 68.62

Lowest population growth rate recorded since the 1960s

The 2007 and 2000 census figures translated into an average annual population growth rate of 2.04 percent for the period 2000 to 2007. As shown below, it was the lowest annual population growth rate recorded for the Philippines since the 1960s
Reference Period Average Annual Population Growth Rate for the Philippines
(in percent)
2000-2007 2.04
1990-2000 2.34
1980-1990 2.35
1970-1980 2.75
1960-1970 3.01

The projected average annual population growth rate for the period 2005 to 2010 was 1.95 percent. This projection was based on the 2000 Census of Population and Housing.

Calabarzon, NCR, and Central Luzon comprise more than one-third of total population

By region, Calabarzon (Region IV-A) had the largest population with 11.74 million, followed by the National Capital Region (NCR) with 11.55 million, and Central Luzon (Region III) with 9.72 million. The combined population of these three regions comprised more than one-third (37.3 percent) of the Philippine population.

Twelve regions have growth rates lower than the national figure

Twelve of the country's 17 administrative regions have growth rates lower than the national figure. The other five regions had higher growth rates, namely, NCR (2.11%), Region III (2.36%), Region IV-A (3.21%), Region XII (2.41%), and ARMM (5.46%).

Cavite's 2.86 million population tops other provinces

Among provinces, Cavite had the largest population with 2.86 million. Bulacan was second with 2.83 million, and Pangasinan came in third, with 2.65 million.

Five other provinces surpassed the two million mark: Laguna (2.47 million persons); Cebu, excluding its three highly urbanized cities - Cebu City, Lapu-lapu City, and Mandaue City (2.44 million persons); Negros Occidental, excluding Bacolod City (2.37 million persons); Rizal (2.28 million persons); and Batangas (2.25 million persons)

On the other hand, three provinces reportedly had less than 100 thousand population, namely, Batanes (16 thousand persons); Camiguin (81 thousand persons); and Siquijor (88 thousand persons).

Four highly urbanized cities (HUCs) record more than one million population

Of the 32 highly urbanized cities (HUCs), only four had qualified for the Millionaires� Club. Three of such HUCs were in the NCR: Quezon City (2.68 million), Manila (1.66 million), and Caloocan City (1.38 million). The other HUC which qualified for the Millionaires� Club was Davao City with a population of 1.36 million.

About 40,000 fieldworkers were deployed by the NSO during the nationwide census taking last year. The population counts proclaimed by the President as official for all purposes were based on census questionnaires from the different barangays all over the country. These questionnaires were processed in Regional Data Processing Centers adopting a new technology which involved digital imaging and intelligent character recognition. The Census was conducted pursuant to Batas Pambansa Blg. 72 and Commonwealth Act 591.

Final counts by barangay are available at the NSO website - . Regional volumes in print and electronic copies (CD-ROM) can be obtained at the Databank and Information Services Division of the NSO.

[Igsuonnimo]

Originally Posted by MatudNilaBaby

how did this Dr. Balicasan came up with the conclusion that with a $2,000 gross per capita income of 10 million filipino household make them a middle class? is there such a thing as middle class of the poor and middle class of the rich? i just dont get the statistical correlation between gross per capita income and being middle class.

May sarili akong interpretasyon sa middle class. Ito yung mag-asawa na nag-anak lamang ng dalawa at madami na ang tatlo.
Kapag iisa lang kasi ang anak ng middle class family, makakatulong ito sa pagkontrol ng populasyon.
Sana mali ako.

Kaya ang C, D, E or even F brackets -- dito ang mas magiging target market. Ibig sabihin nito apat hanggang lima o minsan pa nga ay anim ang anak ng mag-asawa. Hindi pa kasama dito ang mga nagiging anak sa labas ni Tatay.

Kapag nasa abroad o OFW ang mga magulang ibang usapan na ito.

[le Reine]

Originally Posted by MatudNilaBaby

how did this Dr. Balicasan came up with the conclusion that with a $2,000 gross per capita income of 10 million filipino household make them a middle class? is there such a thing as middle class of the poor and middle class of the rich? i just dont get the statistical correlation between gross per capita income and being middle class.

It is not only Dr. Balisacan who set that standard. The $2000 per capita income was devised by international organizations such as the UN, WB and the IMF to define and compare economic classes across countries. As of late, the Philippines, having a real GDP per capita of close to $2,000 is considered low-middle income country.

Poverty threshold, on the other hand, is measured by using the $1 and $2 a day definition. So it means that one is considered extremely poor if people earn about $320 to $720 a year. Of course, this definition of economic class is merely based on wealth not on other factors, and this is only used for easy comparison among countries for better targeting of these institutions' programs.

[Jake_noypi]

I for this... Bulacan is the place for the Filipino republic. It's just because Emilio is a traitor.

Oh well alam nyo ba kung anong thread link ung sa SOUTH EAST ASIAN constructions? Nakita ko kasi nung minsan hindi ko na matandaan kung saan, ganda kasi eh payabangan ng mga constructions sa South East Asia.

[Jake_noypi]

in that case we belong in the "upper class" of poor section..

[le Reine]

Not necessarily poor. We're still a developing country. Thailand and Malaysia are still considered developing too. Although Malaysia has gone up to upper-middle income country. I think in SEA, only Singapore and Brunei would be considered developed based on GDP per capita. When you say poor, you'll lump the Philippines with the likes of Zimbabwe and Mozambique.

look at this site: http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTE...239419,00.html

it says

Income group: Economies are divided according to 2007 GNI per capita, calculated using the World Bank Atlas method. The groups are: low income, $935 or less; lower middle income, $936 - $3,705; upper middle income, $3,706 - $11,455; and high income, $11,456 or more.

The problem with this classification is that the income ranges are very large it tends to lump countries in certain groups that doesn't seem to reflect their way of life. And another is that it is too simplistic because it bases the standard of life merely on income.

[jpdm]

Originally Posted by Mercato

Errr, I don't exactly wish to draw comparisons with the Thirteen Colonies, nor of Bismarck & Prussianism, and please don't even think of Nazism.

I am merely saying we do have a home grown role model. That role model is the First Filipino Republic, wasn't it established in Imus by Aguinaldo? Yes, the First Filipino Republic and the Malolos Constitution as models for Nationalism...

Of course, I understand what you want to point out.

What Im saying is nationalsim is such a powerful force if harness positively will result to the betterment of the country.

It was in kawit, when the First Pinoy republic was declared.

[Igsuonnimo]

dahil sa nagkalat ang mga Pinoy sa iba't-ibang lupalop ng daigdig, pwede na tayong magkaroon ng sariling interpretasyon ng GDP, per capita income, upper class, lower class at quality of life?

[le Reine]

huh? Did not understand that. What are you trying to say?

[manileño]

^ i think what he meant to say was that there are around 10 million overseas filipino workers that also form part of our middle class.. are their income already included in the statistics?

[le Reine]

Originally Posted by manileño

^ i think what he meant to say was that there are around 10 million overseas filipino workers that also form part of our middle class.. are their income already included in the statistics?

Ahhh... eh parang ang layo pa rin?

Anyway, I believe that if it's GDP we are talking about, it would not include income coming from abroad. Hence, the GDP per capita would only include income created inside the country divided by the population inside the country too. But, once the remittances are used to buy goods inside the country or are used in investments such as real estate, etc, then that would form part of the national economy as private consumption. That's my understanding of things. Economists, please check my macroeconomics.

If he's asking for "interpretations" of statistics, then that would be quite confusing. Yeah, statistics do include interpretations BUT you have to find the definition of concepts first before doing an interpretation of that info. So in this case, the question he was asking is irrelevant already because the IMF, WB, UN and other institutions for that matter are clear about the definition of terms. GDP is GDP, middle class is middle class so on and so forth.

[manileño]

Originally Posted by Mercato

@manileño
No, no, tio. 'Twas not meant for you, but for our fili-pinoyes agringados in much earlier posts...

hehe pues venga, i know what you mean.. these guys always speak of nationalism but can't let go of their biases towards the US.. Emilio Aguinaldo was a traitor if you are gonna believe what Americans tell you in history books.. he was after all an insurgent and his very existence then was a threat to American colonial interests in our shores. they've pitted us against each other, Aguinaldo vs everyone else.. June 12 vs. July 4th and so on and so forth.. clearly, something has to be done to reverse our miseducation, a correction of history to finally let in Nationalism that doesn't allow blame game against our own people..

[Mercato]

Originally Posted by jpdm

Of course, I understand what you want to point out.

What Im saying is nationalsim is such a powerful force if harness positively will result to the betterment of the country.

It was in kawit, when the First Pinoy republic was declared.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by manileño

hehe pues venga, i know what you mean.. these guys always speak of nationalism but can't let go of their biases towards the US.. Emilio Aguinaldo was a traitor if you are gonna believe what Americans tell you in history books.. he was after all an insurgent and his very existence then was a threat to American colonial interests in our shores. they've pitted us against each other, Aguinaldo vs everyone else.. June 12 vs. July 4th and so on and so forth.. clearly, something has to be done to reverse our miseducation, a correction of history to finally let in Nationalism that doesn't allow blame game against our own people..

No, I do not believe Emilio Aguinaldo was a traitor. It was a Yankee mentira/lie. I recognize the First Filipino Republic, the Malolos Constitution. Including the Aguinaldo Cabinet and our president as well. Plus everything else that goes with it... IMHO, we can't go wrong with the original model of Nacionalismo, right? Viva Las Filipinas!