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Old September 15th, 2008, 09:54 AM   #181
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Bahn Tower won't get built! No way!!!
Why not? This tower makes perfect sense. It got a main tenant, green light from politics (even green party) and the neighbors/shadow issue is pretty much solved. So its one of the more likely projects in Frankfurt.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 10:00 AM   #182
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Why not? This tower makes perfect sense. It got a main tenant, green light from politics (even green party) and the neighbors/shadow issue is pretty much solved. So its one of the more likely projects in Frankfurt.
1st: Deutsche Bahn should spend it's money on train maintenance to avoid the accidents with the ICEs and
2nd: There is so many empty office space and there are so many towers built I fear it will become a ghost tower in some years!
3rd: Wasn't Millennium Tower a Deutsche Bahn development? With a tower next to the station I am pretty sure they would burry even the lightest chances for construction of Millennium Tower with that!
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Old September 15th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #183
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Geez, good on ya Franky! This one is going to affect the Frankfurt am Main skyline! It would look great on completion
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Old September 15th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #184
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1st: Deutsche Bahn should spend it's money on train maintenance to avoid the accidents with the ICEs and
2nd: There is so many empty office space and there are so many towers built I fear it will become a ghost tower in some years!
3rd: Wasn't Millennium Tower a Deutsche Bahn development? With a tower next to the station I am pretty sure they would burry even the lightest chances for construction of Millennium Tower with that!

1: deutsche bahn wants to cut costs by putting everything in one building instead of 30 locations
2: there is almost no empty space in central frankfurt in modern buildings - the vacancy rate almost exclusively applies to old - unrentable - office space. most skyscrapers being built now are purpose built projects - with tenants already.
3: MT was never a deutsche bahn development - it was always by vivico, which was involved with DB years ago.

for discussions about the bahn tower I suggest to post it in the bahn tower thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=707012
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #185
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Something tells me, if you are that sure, then there is nothing what can wrong with this project anymore. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:29 AM   #186
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looks like name and design will change.. according to a source on dhf the glas-section of the tower will get a height increase of about 5 floors. height should be slightly above 200m now.


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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #187
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now it doesnt look that boxy anymore... i like it.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:50 AM   #188
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Something tells me, if you are that sure, then there is nothing what can wrong with this project anymore. Wouldn't be the first time.
I will doubt any project from now on. Then they have true chances to get built!
Next one to doubt: Millenium Tower! NEVER NEVER EVER!!!!!
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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:53 AM   #189
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looks like name and design will change.. according to a source on dhf the glas-section of the tower will get a height increase of about 5 floors. height should be slightly above 200m now.


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That is good news! That means 5 potential 200m+ buildings adding to the skyline!!!
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:49 AM   #190
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on this picture alone we can see the location of 5 potential 200m+ towers



the now 200m+(?) tall T185, the proposed 230m DZ Bank, the yesterday approved Bahn Tower (210m), the approved 211m T1 and the approved 350m+ MT. with MesseTurm and Westendstrasse 1, this view could eventually host 7 x 200m+ towers.

despite the height increase I don't think I like it more. the top looks weird to me. I wonder how tall it is now.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 05:19 AM   #191
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Nice, I like it now more.

And 200m+ is not bad.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #192
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one more fresh render of the towers entree

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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:57 PM   #193
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Looks a bit like Tower 42 in London, in this render.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Tower42.jpg
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Old September 26th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #194
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He he he. This is true!
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Old September 26th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #195
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it looks much better
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Old September 26th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #196
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Four highrises under U/C- Frankfurt is pure booming
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Old September 26th, 2008, 11:08 PM   #197
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there are more than 4 u/c, but you can call it a boom

the new tower 185 has 56 floors, apparently
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Old September 27th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #198
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I heard the official groundbreaking ceremony will be held next week. There's already a 'party tent' on site.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 02:59 PM   #199
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This project is amazing. Classic design, and well integrated in its environment (from my point of view).

How I wish return to visit Frankfurt one more time! Soon I hope!
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I heard the official groundbreaking ceremony will be held next week. There's already a 'party tent' on site.
it's today. hopefully we get the new official height at this occasion.
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