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Old October 28th, 2007, 10:01 PM   #41
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i think it was an estimate...or do you have sources CY?
i like the new Selmi
but they go from one extrem to the next one right?
totally dark---> totally shiny
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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:28 AM   #42
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I always liked the dark look of the Selmi highrise.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 11:37 PM   #43
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yes, me too.
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Old October 30th, 2007, 04:02 AM   #44
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selmi had lots of character. also its dark colour added some contrast to the newer scrapers of frankfurt.
that shiny glitzy something they are making of it, isnt anything else than boring, and driving the skyline towards a collection of buildings of all the same colour.
imagine they would do the same to, say, the seagram building, or the hancock tower!
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Old October 30th, 2007, 10:05 AM   #45
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Yes, but Selmi Hochhaus is not Hancock tower. Its just a simple and non iconic office building. However, I do agree, that the black facade added some nice contrast to the skyline.
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Old October 30th, 2007, 08:29 PM   #46
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Let's say, within the next months doesn't imply within the next few months, and this tower will probably start at the long end of this range...

But several sources stated that the contract is signed and that this tower will come for sure. If so then there is already a deadline when PWC has to move out their current premises. To keep that deadline they have to start middle/end of next year. That's all about it.

Regarding the Selmi Hochhaus, I will miss the dark facade, too, at least in a certain distance with skyline context. But as there seems to be a quite interesting concept of lightening the stairwairs and the crown by night I am also curious about the result to find end of 2008.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 07:41 AM   #47
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some news:

the architectural competition containg 5 architects has reached a second phase with two designs left

1) christoph maeckler - he designed a skyscraper with a stone facade
2) ingenhoven - the designed skyscraper has a glass facade

final decision will be made end of january

pricewaterhouse coopers apparently signed a long term lease for 65,000 sq m (700,000 sq ft) with an option for further 20,000 sq m (over 200,000 sq ft)

looks like the reports were true and the tower will go ahead in 2008 - the site has been cleared already.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 11:06 AM   #48
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Should have mentioned that before, but according to some serious contacts PWC signed an almost airtight contract with Vivico with only slight uncertainties remaining. Also interesting yet not surprising was the info that Neue Mainzer Str. 57-59 was shortlisted if not even favorized because of its prestigious location. Obviously the package offered by Vivico was more convincing.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 04:11 PM   #49
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Should have mentioned that before, but according to some serious contacts PWC signed an almost airtight contract with Vivico with only slight uncertainties remaining. Also interesting yet not surprising was the info that Neue Mainzer Str. 57-59 was shortlisted if not even favorized because of its prestigious location. Obviously the package offered by Vivico was more convincing.
that doesn't sound good

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Old December 21st, 2007, 04:12 PM   #50
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why? frankfurt is getting a new skyscraper ... its almost fully rented before construction begins, yet again.

I would have preffered they would have chosen the neue mainzer skyscraper instead, but Im ok with T185 too ...
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Old December 21st, 2007, 06:01 PM   #51
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Damn it, humongously great days at Christmas Time

Congrats to Frankfurt buddies, let's celebrate!
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Old December 21st, 2007, 06:17 PM   #52
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Damn it, humongously great days at Christmas Time

Congrats to Frankfurt buddies, let's celebrate!
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Old December 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM   #53
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guys, i think i didn't get the point

will the PWC be built for sure now aswell and what happened to the "Neue Mainzer Strasse 55 - 57"?

thx in advance
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Old December 21st, 2007, 07:48 PM   #54
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The architectural competition is going to be continued, the final decision about the design will be made in January 08. PWC signed a contract to rent bull-loads of space there. So everything looks like they're going to build the tower (185) next year.

And this proposed tower had been prefered about the "Neue Mainzer". It still can be build thou, but PWC will apparently move into the Tower185.

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Old December 21st, 2007, 09:13 PM   #55
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i hope they'll choose the design with the stone-facade
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Old December 21st, 2007, 10:15 PM   #56
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i hope they'll choose the design with the stone-facade

Totally agree, Frankfurt has enough glass, its time for stone !!
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Old December 21st, 2007, 10:20 PM   #57
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Are good renders for both renders avaible?
If yes can anybody give a link or post them?
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Old December 21st, 2007, 11:23 PM   #58
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Sorry. There are no renders available at the moment. We're all can't wait to see them.
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Old December 22nd, 2007, 12:32 AM   #59
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Capiche?
lol yes, thx erbsy
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i hope they'll choose the design with the stone-facade
some of the old red sandstone facade of the demolished building on that site is going to be used for the new project.

apparently maeckler architects have given the project a working name - 'joselito' - as a symbol for perfection, elegance and technique.

I don't know if it means that maeckler has won the competition. but in that case we should expect a stone facade.
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