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Old January 27th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #61
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that would be great
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Old January 27th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #62
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A well known German real estate magazin "Immobilien-Zeitung" mentioned last Thursday in an article about the "Europaviertel" that this tower will start construction also this year.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 07:53 AM   #63
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Old February 19th, 2008, 11:39 AM   #64
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According to the print version of FAZ newspaper decission has been made (not surprisingly) for the design of Christoph Mńckler. Construction start will be right at the beginning of 2009. The towers base will have a distinctive stone facade. The design will be presented beginning of March.
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Old February 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #65
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so the rumours were true. although I like the opernturm I hope it won't be a copy of it ..
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #66
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so the rumours were true. although I like the opernturm I hope it won't be a copy of it ..
don't think so
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Old February 19th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #67
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Great news. Can't wait to see the first renderings.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 01:33 AM   #68
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yeah, i can`t understand why they are waiting another month to present this project... I WANT TO SEE RENDERS - NOW
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Old February 20th, 2008, 10:43 AM   #69
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Maybe they want to present it together with the rest of UEC project, which is almost save now. In the meanwhile the city seems to accept the current plans (in terms of retail space - therefore the project at Honselldreieick will get less). Parking space for PwC tower will be placed in the UEC.

Guess they want to have a big show... PwC Tower, Grand Hyatt Tower plus UEC!
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Old February 20th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #70
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Maybe they want to present it together with the rest of UEC project, which is almost save now. In the meanwhile the city seems to accept the current plans (in terms of retail space - therefore the project at Honselldreieick will get less). Parking space for PwC tower will be placed in the UEC.

Guess they want to have a big show... PwC Tower, Grand Hyatt Tower plus UEC!
and the office tower?
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Old February 20th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #71
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and the office tower?
if u rent at least half of it, i`m sure they`ll gonna build it, too
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Old February 20th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #72
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The office tower will come too, probably sooner than later. For quite some reasons (logistic aspects, etc.) it does not really make sense, not to build it at the same time or even to start it after completion of the rest. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be another announcement when the rest is on the way. This location will become much more attractive once the whole project has seen the official go ahead. Another fact is that there is only one project on a speculative base ongoing, the Kaiserkarree. This is not enough to satisfy the actual demand...

So, let's keep fingers crossed
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Old February 20th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #73
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totally agree CYstillFI
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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:11 AM   #74
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imagine if the whole UEC with Tower 1 + 2 + PWC is under construction. incredible ... pull them baby! <3
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:01 AM   #75
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The office tower will come too, probably sooner than later.
Another office tower would be exciting, but I'd be even more excited if the marketed Fraspa Tower (close to the Alte Oper) were built instead. By this I mean that both projects may be competing for similar tenants, Postbank or Deloitte for example. There simply are not that many finance/consulting/legal companies left that aren't represented or need more office space in Frankfurt, especially with a global market turndown.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 11:16 AM   #76
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Nice? I think it will be wonderful! Just wait
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Another office tower would be exciting, but I'd be even more excited if the marketed Fraspa Tower (close to the Alte Oper) were built instead. By this I mean that both projects may be competing for similar tenants, Postbank or Deloitte for example. There simply are not that many finance/consulting/legal companies left that aren't represented or need more office space in Frankfurt, especially with a global market turndown.
the demand is huge and there is a list of companies that want to consolidate their offices spread across the city to one location.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:15 PM   #78
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Exactly, HD.

You just have to look at PwC. They do already have their offices within Frankfurt and do not move to this tower, because the current office is getting too small. It is just a question of residing at a prestigious location. As such this skyscraper was choosen.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:58 PM   #79
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the demand is huge and there is a list of companies that want to consolidate their offices spread across the city to one location.
While I agree that presitigous locations are in demand (Degussa, Kaiserkarree, Opernturm), don't forget that many managers are are now under increased pressure to cut costs. Deutsche B÷rse is leaving Frankfurt along with its 2,500 employees to move to the outskirts thereby saving lots of tax money.

Also, the state of Hesse is now facing the prospect of a far-left government (meaning the former Communist party, the Linke, will govern along with the Social Democrats and Green Party) that is feeding off an anti-big business mood. What does this mean for economic growth in Frankfurt? A whole lot. The Frankfurt Airport will most likely not be enlarged any time soon, taxes heavily increased and the once balanced budget will be heavily indebted. I predict that businesses will be leaving for or deciding to expand in Munich, Stuttgart, Dusseldorf and Hamburg.
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@ Golden Age: This is much too pesimistic. The decission about the airport is not anymore a matter of the state government (and even the socialists and the green party want the enlargement, though with some restrictions). The taxes raised in Frankfurt is also not the business of a future state government and they are the same high as in the other mentioned cities. There is not really a lot, what they can influence from their official agenda. Probably they can abolish the tuition fees, change the school system a bit, stop or delay some coal-fired power plant projects, and instead try (!) to mess up the landscape with wind wheels or what ever. The worst would probably be more speed limits on the highways, which will be removed again after the next change.

I am pretty sure, that we will face new elections soon, as there is no way to govern a state like Hesse in such a constellation of majorities and interests, it looks as it fits, but it doesn't. The people didn't vote for socialists/communists because of their manifesto, they voted against the current premier cause of some of his emphases in his election campaign.
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