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Old October 21st, 2015, 03:38 PM   #2421
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Can you tell us what and how long section it is? Or show it on the map?
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Old October 22nd, 2015, 02:29 AM   #2422
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Looks like I was wrong, this isn't a motorway opening. It has the potential to be one in the future, but at the moment it looks like they are reconstructing the Kaliningrad-Mamonovo road 2 lanes at a time. The only concrete evidence I can give on a future motorway is the rebuilt bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.6900.../data=!3m1!1e3
The left part was opened last year, the right part of the bridge (with cars on it in the satellite view) is currently under reconstruction (apparently).
Here is another bridge under reconstruction, which is part of the 13.3 kms I previously mentioned (incorrectly thought it was an expressway, its just 2 lanes atm):
https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5236.../data=!3m1!1e3
Here is a video from the opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JZZ...B0%D0%B4%D0%B0
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Old October 22nd, 2015, 03:33 AM   #2423
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В дополнение к предыдущему сообщению:
Мост является частью кольцевой дороги в объезд города, а именно восточный обход Тюмени. Схема:

Сам мост

И развязка после моста

Источник http://www.car72.ru/forum/viewtopic....50973#p2350973
post by User87 in the Bridges under Construction section of the Russian forum. An extension of the Tyumen Ring Road (also known as the Tyumen Bypass). Opened today.

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Old October 22nd, 2015, 08:08 PM   #2424
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Looks like I was wrong, this isn't a motorway opening. It has the potential to be one in the future, but at the moment it looks like they are reconstructing the Kaliningrad-Mamonovo road 2 lanes at a time. The only concrete evidence I can give on a future motorway is the rebuilt bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.6900.../data=!3m1!1e3
The left part was opened last year, the right part of the bridge (with cars on it in the satellite view) is currently under reconstruction (apparently).
Here is another bridge under reconstruction, which is part of the 13.3 kms I previously mentioned (incorrectly thought it was an expressway, its just 2 lanes atm):
https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5236.../data=!3m1!1e3
Here is a video from the opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JZZ...B0%D0%B4%D0%B0
OK, then I thought I missed something big... I found interesting that on russian side there is not that much of overpasses left. I think these few german remains left from prewar era:https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5571...7i13312!8i6656 and these https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4842...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@54.6222...7i13312!8i6656
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Old October 30th, 2015, 04:32 PM   #2425
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The 4th road bridge across the Yenisey River in Krasnoyarsk opened to traffic yesterday. It is the westernmost crossing in the Krasnoyarsk area.

I couldn't find a good resolution and high quality photo. Maybe others can post one or two.

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Old October 31st, 2015, 05:34 PM   #2426
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Old November 1st, 2015, 09:34 AM   #2427
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Here's a video on the 4th bridge in Krasnoyarsk. This is the 1st step of the total bridge complex, the road is going to go further into the city, but construction on it is starting now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pMr...81%D0%B5%D0%B9
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Old November 11th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #2428
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Platon

A new electronic tolling system will be introduced on all Russian federal highways on 15 November. It is only for trucks with a weight over 12 tons.

The initial toll rate is very low, only 1.53 rubles per kilometer. That's € 0.02, 10 times lower than most toll systems in Central Europe. The estimated toll revenue is fairly low, only about 50 billion rubles (€ 720 million) per year.

Website: http://platon.ru/en/
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Old November 11th, 2015, 01:16 PM   #2429
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That seems to be a tax, not a toll.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 12:33 AM   #2430
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Truckers who are protesting this are traitors to Russia and should be summarily banished from the trucking industry.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #2431
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I sincerely hope that's sarcasm.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:49 PM   #2432
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I sincerely hope that's sarcasm.
Of course they're not traitors, they're just protecting their business. But the system itself is fine and useful because there's a huge part of truckers who work in the underground economy. Maybe the time is just not right, the government should do it a bit later. Moreover, a lot of people protest not against the system itself but against people who are put in charge of this.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:29 PM   #2433
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^ That was a reply to deleted post
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Old December 9th, 2015, 02:14 PM   #2434
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Federal highways meaning what? All M class roads or some A class too? How will they control how much km will a truck pass? A better option is vignette then, cause I guess the only way to imply it is phone-tracking, at which FSB(Federal Security Service) is expert though. Or will they put cameras??? But then there will be a website detecting those cameras and finding a way to bypass... If they hadn't prepared it, they gonna receive nothing at all.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 02:50 PM   #2435
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Federal highways meaning what? All M class roads or some A class too? How will they control how much km will a truck pass? A better option is vignette then, cause I guess the only way to imply it is phone-tracking, at which FSB(Federal Security Service) is expert though. Or will they put cameras??? But then there will be a website detecting those cameras and finding a way to bypass... If they hadn't prepared it, they gonna receive nothing at all.
You either report on your route and check in every few km and pay or get a navigation device which follows the route and withdraws money from the bank account.

This is how it looks
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Old December 9th, 2015, 02:59 PM   #2436
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Ah. It becomes obligatory then. But a) a company can lie about the route and b) it encourages black business even more. c) I wonder how the police will enforce it... They pretend to do everything to do good but in fact it comes as it always comes: through the *** Also I wonder how the foreign trucks will buy the thing. And, at last, the real reason about this is just to embargo the European items, so they could be located, then stopped by police, and here comes the Inquisition - if you come with Spanish peaches in trucks, they will be very likely dug in earth

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Old December 9th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #2437
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Ah. It becomes obligatory then. But a) a company can lie about the route and b) it encourages black business even more. c) I wonder how the police will enforce it... They are doing everything to do good but in fact it comes as it always comes: through the ***
a) A route map with description of the cargo must be given to those Platon guys before the departure. After that, a driver will have to check in at every toll on his way. If he doesn't, there must be something wrong.

b) How does it? I mean, every tax encourages black business then. I guess it must be just unprofitable to break the law, fines have to be high enough although the government won't fine anyone in 6 mouth so people can get used to the new system.

Some people say that it will make goods' prices rise but a few additional cents wouldn't make a big difference. Moreover, many drivers increased their service prices by 50-100 percent just because of the protest.
I really think that it has nothing to do with the embargo. It was proposed long time before and those political problems won't last forever.

As for foreign trucks, here's the info from their official site:

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We recommend to vehicle owners of foreign entities to register in the Toll Collection System and issue Toll Tickets in website before entering the Russian Federation. It will significantly save your time while crossing border.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 07:55 PM   #2438
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wasn't Platon the character in that Ironiya Sud'by movie? That's a silly name for a toll collecting device.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #2439
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wasn't Platon the character in that Ironiya Sud'by movie? That's a silly name for a toll collecting device.
Its a word play, because in Russian the verb to pay is "platit" and so the name of the system sounds something like pay-on
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Old December 13th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #2440
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https://www.google.fi/maps/@59.79521...7i13312!8i6656

Volhonskoe Shosse just outside SPB. Is someone going to do sometning about this decay?
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