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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:09 PM   #521
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Slovakia signed PPP contract (built and operate) with Vinci as well. They will built 51,6 km long expressway for € 1.8 billion. That's about € 35,000,000 per km.

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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:13 PM   #522
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Slovakia signed PPP contract (built and operate) with Vinci as well. They will built 51,6 km long expressway for € 1.8 billion. That's about € 35,000 per km.
Should be million €

Do you know of other recent projects and their cost?
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:53 PM   #523
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Should be million €

Do you know of other recent projects and their cost?
Sorry, somehow I forgot to write another ",000."

Well, I don't know much about recent PPP projects. I think M6 in Hungary is PPP project, there are some also on the UK, but I don't know many details. Czechs are going to built their D3 as PPP and there will be several PPP projects in Slovakia. Maybe forumers from those countries could tell us more details.

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Old August 4th, 2009, 09:59 PM   #524
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Should be million €

Do you know of other recent projects and their cost?
20 million per kilometer sounds pretty good for rural Dutch motorway construction. Could be much more expensive in the Delta metropolis though.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #525
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Should be million €

Do you know of other recent projects and their cost?
in romania vinci will build a very mountainous section of A3 motorway with 1.5billion.the section is 53km long out of which more than 20 are tunnels.the contract is signed for 30years and the toll will be 2.5 euros.
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Old August 5th, 2009, 12:06 AM   #526
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in romania vinci will build a very mountainous section of A3 motorway with 1.5billion.the section is 53km long out of which more than 20 are tunnels.the contract is signed for 30years and the toll will be 2.5 euros.
That (I guess €) 1.5 billion includes also expenses on maintenance of the road during 30 contract period?
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Old August 5th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #527
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Yeah, but this section of the motorway will be one of the busiest. The cost includes building the 8-10 lane motorway with all the infrastructure like toll booths as well as several moster junctions with MKAD, M10 and SVO airport (as well as some other junctions). On top of that it needs a bridge over Moscow canal

I am genuinely not sure if it sounds too high!?
So it's going to be the first state of the art highway build by on of the best construction companies in the world ?
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Old August 6th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #528
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That (I guess €) 1.5 billion includes also expenses on maintenance of the road during 30 contract period?
Yes, you are right.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #529
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Its fresh footage I even saw worst parts last year, when I traveled this road to SPB. Russian roads are crap and killing 30k people a year. But latest government statements bring some optimism. Very soon some high qaulity paid roads will be built involving some well-known european operators.
Thanks for your interest.
Thanks very much fo your kind answer Yeah, I know, but be carefull with private investments in infrastructure. We, in Poland had some problems regarding our roads with that. I would even say that the best way to build motorways is to do it with state founds as much as possible and Russia has a lot of founds, isn't it?
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Old August 19th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #530
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So Don Motorway will be going from Moscow to Krasnograd ?
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Old August 21st, 2009, 11:41 PM   #531
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M9 Moscow - Latvia
From the Autobahnen.ch forums:

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Hallo Genossen!

Am 25 Juli habe ich eine Reise Richtung Lettland unternommen. Darüber möchte ich heute erzählen.




Die Autobahn ist nicht schlecht, doch im Gegensatz zur M-4 macht es hier keinen Spass schneller als 140 km/h zu fahren wegen zu vielen Kurven und Steigungen.




Das Wetter war sehr wechselhaft aber warm:






In Wolokolamsk war die Autobahn zu Ende:



Es begann die Landstrasse:




Und eine Shell-Tankstelle die in Moskau kaum zu finden sind:




Im Gebiet Twer war die Strasse eine Katastrophe :shock: :




Es wird zwar viel gebaut, doch wenn man hier in der Nacht fährt... :alright:




Renovierte Abschnitte sehen besser aus:






Dann kam Gebiet Pskow und die Strasse wurde sofort besser:





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Old August 21st, 2009, 11:55 PM   #532
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The entire road is like this in Tver oblast.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:56 PM   #533
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Hello,

I have the idea, for next year, during the vacations, of getting in a Fiat Adria Motorhome from Finland to Saint Petersburg, and then to Moscow.

I have travelled several times around the Spain, France, Germany and Austria without any problem, but using always some caution.

Can anyone give me an idea how it is to travel across the M10, if it is minimal safe to travel, and if there are any camping services along its way, or any safe places where I can stay during the night?

I have a friend of mine that, when he was travelling across Ukraine, (he intended to reach Moscow) the police asked to stop, several times, in order to rip him of some money, and so he had to turn back.

An extra info about services (rest areas, mechanic assistance) in the M10 would be extremely useful too.

Thanks for sharing your experience / knowledge of the M10.

Best regards,
Carlos
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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:59 PM   #534
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Well some parts of M10 are quite bad, it has its reasons, new motorway is planned to be constructed, it's in design stage
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Old August 30th, 2009, 01:37 PM   #535
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Hello,

I have the idea, for next year, during the vacations, of getting in a Fiat Adria Motorhome from Finland to Saint Petersburg, and then to Moscow.

I have travelled several times around the Spain, France, Germany and Austria without any problem, but using always some caution.

Can anyone give me an idea how it is to travel across the M10, if it is minimal safe to travel, and if there are any camping services along its way, or any safe places where I can stay during the night?

I have a friend of mine that, when he was travelling across Ukraine, (he intended to reach Moscow) the police asked to stop, several times, in order to rip him of some money, and so he had to turn back.

An extra info about services (rest areas, mechanic assistance) in the M10 would be extremely useful too.

Thanks for sharing your experience / knowledge of the M10.

Best regards,
Carlos
About the bribes, you should be prepared for that also with russian cops..
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Old August 30th, 2009, 05:22 PM   #536
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Warsawbynight, I told you to stay away from Russia-related threads with your provoking crap.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #537
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Warsawbynight, I told you to stay away from Russia-related threads with your provoking crap.
Sorry, ist your personal forum? Can't we speak about all aspects of russian higways here or you want to be a censor here?

If I'm wrong, please correct me. But my experience is that it's a very big problem in Russia, especially on the roads. A guy made a question, I have answered him. What is wrong? Can we speak out only positive aspects of russian highways?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 06:30 PM   #538
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Russian roads seem to be quite better than those in Ukraine, at least in Russia there are motorways
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Old September 1st, 2009, 07:03 PM   #540
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What road is it ?
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