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Old August 13th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #901
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2nd ring road is Garden Ring.

The one in Noginsk is 6th - Moscow [provincial] Small Ring. Strange you took wrong exit because it is the only large road interchange in Noginsk.
http://maps.google.ru/maps?hl=ru&ie=...13465&t=k&z=17


Same as with metro - on busy roads there is simply no place for signs with any other languages. And not to forget - the only allowed alphabet in Russia is Cyrillic. So even English words could be written on Cyrillics.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 01:20 PM   #902
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2nd ring road is Garden Ring.
I always get confused with Moscow's rings.

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The one in Noginsk is 6th - Moscow [provincial] Small Ring. Strange you took wrong exit because it is the only large road interchange in Noginsk.
http://maps.google.ru/maps?hl=ru&ie=...13465&t=k&z=17
There's nothing strange. I was driving on M7 from Vladimir direction and took the first exit to Noginsk (to shortend the route) and then I got lost there, I didn't know that there are no direction signs indicating A107.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 02:01 PM   #903
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I like how it is done in Greece.
Directions written in Greek alphabet are in yellow/orange
and directions written in Latin alphabet are in white



more signs in Greece can be seen here



The other thing in regards to letters on road signs is that (in pics recently posted) I see signs with "all-caps", although ....
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Studies made at the start of the construction of the British motorway network concluded that mixed-case letters were much easier to read than "all-caps"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(typography)

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Old August 13th, 2010, 02:55 PM   #904
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if Greeks decided on using only capital letters, they could make signs only in greek, couse the differences aren`t big (9 letters?)
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Old August 13th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #905
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In case you've missed pictures of A212 Estonia-Pskov click here.
M20 Pskov-Saint-Petersburg click here.
Saint-Petersburg KAD click here.

M20/E105 Saint-Petersburg - Solnechnogorsk

I think it's the first photo report of one of the most important routes in Russia! M10. And I'll start with a note, that M10 is a very nationalistic highway, I saw license plates from the following countries (I'm sorting them by the most often seen) - Belarus, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Latvia, Poland, Moldova, Finland (well these could be trucks with Russian drivers as well), The Netherlands (Russian truck drivers too), Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Italy (I saw 20 Italian RV's, they we're driving one after other), Germany, Kyrgyzstan, Czech Republic, Norway and maybe other, I don't remember.

Map of the route:


1. This is how the M10 looks after few kilometers from Petersburg.


2. Looks good. But congested to the maximum.


3. Crasbarrier appeared in the middle.


4. Local exit to Ulyanovka. Moscow is signed with "k" again.


5. Near Tosno. Moscow is spelled right this time. Don't pay attention to the sign on the left, that's adressed to truckers.


6. From this spot, M10 is getting crappy.


7. Surounded by deep forests.


8. Don't let your eyes fool you, it's really bumpy.


9. Truckmania. To be honest, I started to think that this road is being used more by heavy transport.


10. American style trucks are often seen on Russian roads. Just like in the USA, they are thought for huge distances.


11. End of Bolotnitsa.


12. Moskow 614 km.


13. Traffic has calmed down a bit.


14. Green light.


15. Valday signed instead of Tver this time.


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Old August 13th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #906
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16. Just before Velikij Novgorod the 4-laned highway turns to 2+1 road.


17. Now it changed to 1+2. Lanes are changing on average after every 600 meters.


18. Distance sign.


19. Start of Novgorod bypass.


20. The bypass goes to 2+2 again, in fact, this road lacks a motorway sign and a higher speed limit.


21. Overpass.


22. Local junction.


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26. Distance signs always appear after junctions.


27. Exit to Novgorod.


28. I remember how dramatic this place looked 4 years ago, when the reconstruction of this section wasn't even started. Potholes + mud.


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30. By taking this exit, you can drive back to Petersburg.


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32. The old story goes back again.


33. Now Moscow is even better spelled - "Moskva". The name of the Russian capital you can find in 3 versions - Moscow, Moskow and Moskva.


34. This section reminded me about A4 in Poland back in 2000.


35. Great scenery.


36. Love this photo.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 06:56 PM   #907
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this is becoming even more interesting i'm wondering if the road is 4laned at whole route
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Old August 13th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #908
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this is becoming even more interesting
Yeah, it becomes more intriguing as it goes further
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #909
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37. We continue.


38. Dangerous place ahead.


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40. Where's the cabin?


41. It's not far...


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44. 4-laned section starts again. This section wasn't 4 years ago.


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53. Start of Tver bypass.


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55. Driving over biggest river in Europe - Volga. No, the road isn't 2-laned, the other bridge is under reconstruction.


56. Exit to Volokolamsk. You can get to M9 "Baltija" highway to Riga using P90.


57. Sveiki Latvija!


58. Dangerous place again.


59.


60. Highway reconstruction works.


61. Driving along Volga river.


62. End of Klin town.


63. Solnechnogorsk town in the distance.


I wasn't driving untill Moscow, later I took a left turn on Moscow's 6th ring (A107) after Solnechnogorsk and drived on it untill Egorevskoye shosse. I didn't make any photos of A107, because later on M10 there was a traffic jam and the weather got a bit darker, so my photos were all blurry. On the way back from Vladimir oblast, I was delighted to take pictures of Murom-Vladimir and M7 Vladimir-Noginsk, but because of some *******s which set on fire the whole central region, everything was in smoke and I thought it was pointless to make photos of a road, which's visibility was ~ 50 m.

So that's all for now. Hope you liked everything.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #910
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Awesome.

Russia isn't lacking quantity on these trunk routes, only quality could be better, although some sections are in a very good condition.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #911
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I'm telling you, the new highway they are planning with four lanes won't be enough. They must add at least one more lane. I was driving back to Saint-Petersburg during the night, then the traffic was even more than it was during daylight. Most of them were trucks. It was practically impossible for me to speed up, and those 600 m of two lanes just let's you overtake only few trucks.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:47 PM   #912
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Great report. How long did it take from St. Petersburg to Moscow?
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:53 PM   #913
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I'm telling you, the new highway they are planning with four lanes won't be enough. They must add at least one more lane. I was driving back to Saint-Petersburg during the night, then the traffic was even more than it was during daylight. Most of them were trucks. It was practically impossible for me to speed up, and those 600 m of two lanes just let's you overtake only few trucks.
Well, the new M10 will be constructed on a completely new alignment. Maybe traffic will split between the old and new M10. (people and truckers avoiding the tolls).

Are there any statistics at hand about traffic volumes in Russia?
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Old August 13th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #914
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Bonus pictures of the new bridge over Oka river in Murom. Google maps location: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...75095&t=h&z=13

1. Approaching the bridge in direction to Nizhny Novgorod. Everything was in smoke, because we were very near the epicentre of the fire, just 40 km North of Vyksa region.


2. This bridge should've been built a long time ago, because the only way to get from Murom to Navashino town, which is located just 8 km from Murom on the other side of the river, by car, was to drive all the way to Nizhny Novgorod and back. Soon they managed to build a pontoon bridge, however, there was another problem. The ponton was only able to hold car 20 tonnes, so truckers had to use the old route through NN.

But now, as this bridge was finally built, I've already spotted more heavy transport driving through Murom and on P125. And for the first time in my life, I saw first foreign plates on P125. Now it has finally become a major route, connecting south regions of Russia with Nizhny Novgorod.


3. We're on the bridge.


4. If there wasn't this stupid smoke, there would be spectacular views from the bridge.


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6. All together there are three pylons.


7. End of bridge.


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9. View (well if there was one) towards Murom.


10. View on hiding Oka river.
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Great report. How long did it take from St. Petersburg to Moscow?
Thanks. Huh, I don't remember really, together from Petersburg till my destination I was driving 15 hours. From Saint-Petersburg till A107 I was driving maybe some 8 or 9 hours.

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Well, the new M10 will be constructed on a completely new alignment. Maybe traffic will split between the old and new M10. (people and truckers avoiding the tolls).
I hope so.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #916
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Some pictures from Grozny, Chechnya. This city has been wonderfully rebuilt.



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Old August 15th, 2010, 03:01 AM   #917
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Is that a completely new highway? Or a reconstructed one?
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Old August 15th, 2010, 03:14 AM   #918
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Hey this year there have been opened a couple of new parts of the M4 Don

does someone have pics of the new parts?
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Old August 15th, 2010, 05:36 AM   #919
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@RipleyLV
This was a GREAT report. Thanks very much. Judging from the photos the situation is certainly improving on the main routes.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:43 AM   #920
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RipleyLV, THANKS for your GREAT photos!!! We can see that statement of Russian roads becomes better.
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