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Old August 27th, 2007, 08:57 PM   #81
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It will be 6-10 lanes total, so 3 by 3 to 5 by 5
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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:29 PM   #82
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It will be 6-10 lanes total, so 3 by 3 to 5 by 5
Very good, and good thinking about the future.

725km of 2x3 or more, i guess it's the longest section in Europe?

However i heard the Ukrainians are building a 1500km long motorways which is said to be 2x4 lanes all the way, but, first see, then believe
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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:37 PM   #83
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I am sceptical about the Ukrainian plans - it is too high budget for them in the near future

There is another road being brought up to motorway standards and that is the M4. This road is much longer than Moscow-St Petes and it goes from Moscow to the Black Sea.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:57 PM   #84
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I am sceptical about the Ukrainian plans - it is too high budget for them in the near future

There is another road being brought up to motorway standards and that is the M4. This road is much longer than Moscow-St Petes and it goes from Moscow to the Black Sea.
One of the major reasons why the highway guys in the USA like to build motorways with wide grassy medians is to allow for easy upgrading in the future - just add the new lanes in the middle. Perhaps that is an idea for these areas, too.

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Old August 27th, 2007, 09:59 PM   #85
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Some Eastern Russia, Siberia, this is the Altai region, in Southern Siberia, not far from the Mongolian and Chinese border. The Altai mountains rise over 4000m.

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That's what i call driving
Those look like 'two-laners' in the USA from the 1950s and 1960s. I agree, they would be a fun drive.

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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #86
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That would make a lot of sense, its not like we have a shortage of space in the rural areas
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Old August 29th, 2007, 01:10 AM   #87
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Московская Кольцевая Автомобильная Дорога

The МКАД or the Moscow Automobile Ring Road is a circular road around the largest city of Europe; Moscow or better; Moskva.

The road is 109km long and is 2x5 lanes all the way round. It is said to be the busiest road in Europe, with over 300.000 AADT.

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1. The interchange with the M2 motorway.


2. MKAD in the winter, near the Domededovo Airport exit.


3. MKAD in the southeast of Moscow


4. The MKAD in the forests of Moscow.


5. The MKAD on the east side of Moscow.


6. On the northeastern side.


7. MKAD on the Northern Side.


8. MKAD, not far from the A104 exit.


9. MKAD on the northwestern side of Moscow


10. MKAD near the M9 exit.


11. The A105 exit on the West Side of Moscow.


12. Near the M3 exit.


13. Southwest side.


14. Sunset at southern MKAD
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Old August 29th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #88
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M4 Don (in red) will be upgraded to full motorway standard with 2, sometimes 3 lanes in each direction.



Loooong road

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M4 “Don” highway sections.

M4 “Don” federal highway (Moscow – Voronezh – Rostov-on-Don - Novorossiysk) is a major route connecting the Russian capital and the Central Federal District with the southern part of Russia, North Caucasus regions, the Black Sea and the sea of Azov seaports; besides, it provides an access to Transcaucasian and Middle East countries.

At the length of “Don” highway from Moscow to Kashira presently there exists a toll section bypassing Hlevnoe village. Building a section of 10.8 km bypassing Danshino village would create a 1st category bypassing road around Zadonsk, Danshino and Hlevnoe villages with total length of 71 km.

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Old August 29th, 2007, 01:59 PM   #89
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Moscow - Saint-Petersburg speedway project.

New Moscow – Saint-Petersburg speedway is the largest and the most important national project. The speedway crosses the territory of industrially developed regions populated by approximately 25 million people (18% of the population of the country).

The length of the route from Moscow encircling highway to Saint-Petersburg encircling highway is about 650 km. Width of the carriageway is 10 traffic lanes at the border of Moscow, 8 lanes on the territory of Leningrad and Moscow regions and 6 lanes on the territory of Tver and Novgorod regions. All the highway’s proportions are calculated taking into account that the rate of movement will make 150 km/h.


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1445km or 900 miles for the Don motorway.
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Old August 29th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #91
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Moscow Outer Ring Road Project

Central encircling highway in Moscow region.

Moscow region road network development concept is concentrated on reconstruction and modernization of the existing roads. Existing projects include building of an encircling highway in Moscow region. The planned length of the highway is 442.7 km. The new encircling highway will be built in accordance with the 1 and 2 category roads standards; it will bypass large cities and will have road interchanges at various levels. The purpose of the highway is to “catch” transit motor transport, to relieve head sections of federal roads entering Moscow, and to develop radial highway connections of the region.

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Old August 29th, 2007, 02:15 PM   #92
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Saint Petersburg Ring Motorway project.

Whole project in red. Black motorway is another project running through the city.



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more pics here
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Old August 29th, 2007, 02:34 PM   #93
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That moskovian superring road, it say it will be a Chkad or Tskad, where does that stand for?
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Old August 29th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #94
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http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%9A%D0%90%D0%94

Russian wikipedia has an article about it.

Центральная кольцевая автомобильная дорога

Central'naja Kol'chevaja Avtomobil'naja Doroga.

Construction should start in 2011.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C4

Russian wikipedia about the M4.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:28 AM   #95
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I don't like Russian highways, look those ads in the central light poles, and in some parts its filled with ads to the side of the road.

Old lighting.
Also some don't met highway standards at all.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 09:32 AM   #96
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Those advertising is seen in a lot of eastern European countries, like Czechia, Ukraine, Poland etc. I think it´s their way of capitalism.

In the Netherlands, such huge ad signs are prohibited because of horizon pollution.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:00 PM   #97
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Those advertising is seen in a lot of eastern European countries, like Czechia, Ukraine, Poland etc. I think it´s their way of capitalism.

In the Netherlands, such huge ad signs are prohibited because of horizon pollution.
In Estonia, all advertisements are like at least 20m away from highways so there probably is a law against putting them really close to roads.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 04:43 PM   #98
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Yeah, a friend of my visited Latvia and Lithuania, and she said she didn't saw those huge billboards like in Poland. Maybe the Baltic countries have other rules for advertising.
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Another nice piece of road in Moscow, is the 3rd transport ring. Located around the Moscow city centre, it's 35 kilometer long, and contains the 4th longest urban tunnel in Europe, the Lefortovo tunnel with a 2,2 km length.

This 3rd ringroad is partially up to expressway standards, but some pieces are just a very wide boulevard, sometimes up to 12 lanes in total. This ringroad can be very congested during the day. Not so weird since Moscow has over 10 million inhabitants and very few expressways for it's city size.

1. The ringroad dives under a large square. The road has 2x4 lanes.
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2. The ringroad at night.


3. At daytime.


4. The interchange with the Kuznetsovsky highway (from left to right), this avenue is 12 lanes wide.
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5. A bridge on the ringroad during wintertime.


6. Traffic jam on the 3rd ringroad in winter.


7. Interchange. The 3rd ringroad goes on the lowest level.


8. 10 lanes of traffic, 5 lanes moving slow...


9. The entrance to the Lefortevo tunnel.


10. On an overpass.
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