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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:36 PM   #1601
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Siberia has actually quite warm summers and most parts of southern Siberia are not as remote / uninhabited as is usually portrayed. The Siberian Federal District has over 19 million inhabitants and most of those live within relatively close vicinity of the traditional east-west route. In addition, many parts in southern Siberia are cultivated, it's not like driving through tundra.

I believe the last parts of M58 (Chita - Khabarovsk) were paved a few years ago.
Most of Siberia really is extremely sparsely inhabited, but you are right that the densest part is the Transsiberian railway/highway corridor which at times goes very close to the southern border of Russia.

As for the road as far as I have heard there is no particular problem driving there. Most of the road, however, is fairly boring - just endless conifer forests. Knowledge of some Russian would be very useful. In some of those places foreigners are very rare.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 12:01 AM   #1602
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:13 PM   #1603
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Kaliningrad oblast

What are these numbers? They look a bit like exit numbers, but don't appear to be in order.













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Old April 23rd, 2013, 11:42 PM   #1604
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I believe I can decipher them for you even from few 1000km away. That is how the exits follow. First is right away, so it has no number, the second is second and so on. I am sure Russians know how to count their fingers, It is weird for me also. But here we go, forgive my basic CE russian: (3rd photo) 1. Matrosovo is right away then other exits follows: 2. is Zelenogradsk, 3. Svetogorovsk, 4. Jantarnjij (?)
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 11:56 PM   #1605
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But if Kaliningrad is #1 and Zelenogradsk is #2, what are the numbers of the exits in between? There are at least two exits between them (the old road and the airport).
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Old April 24th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #1606
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I believe I can decipher them for you even from few 1000km away. That is how the exits follow. First is right away, so it has no number, the second is second and so on. I am sure Russians know how to count their fingers, It is weird for me also. But here we go, forgive my basic CE russian: (3rd photo) 1. Matrosovo is right away then other exits follows: 2. is Zelenogradsk, 3. Svetogorovsk, 4. Jantarnjij (?)
you are not right This numbers are constant. Look here: ЗЕЛЕНОГРАДСК exit is right away, but it still is #2.



I think it's a local road number, but not every local road gets it's number. The road to airport is marked with aeroplane sign and the old old road is probably a 1-lane road so there is no number for it.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:41 PM   #1607
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This highway is a doubler of local road A191 (Kaliningrad-Zelenogradsk). It was built to bypass several settlements. Moreover, this highway supplies a closer link between of the city of Kaliningrad and airport of Khrabrovo.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #1608
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Too bad that Russia doesn't use also the latin script on its road signs (at least on motorways/main routes). It's virtually impossible for Westerners to travel by car in Russia.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #1609
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It's virtually impossible for Westerners to travel by car in Russia.
Why is it "virtually impossible" ? You can learn the Cyrillic script in a few hours, it's not very hard and most characters have a latin counterpart. It's not like Arabic or Korean. By learning the Cyrillic script, you cannot understand the Russian language, but at least you can read the road signs.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #1610
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you are not right This numbers are constant. Look here: ЗЕЛЕНОГРАДСК exit is right away, but it still is #2.



I think it's a local road number, but not every local road gets it's number. The road to airport is marked with aeroplane sign and the old old road is probably a 1-lane road so there is no number for it.
Yes, I see, I take it back for being too smart. Looks more like exits to local or subregional roads without numbers ... But why even number then? Not sure. Still confused.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #1611
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Use GPS do not care about road signs
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Old April 24th, 2013, 11:44 PM   #1612
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Too bad that Russia doesn't use also the latin script on its road signs (at least on motorways/main routes). It's virtually impossible for Westerners to travel by car in Russia.
Cyrillic is easy to learn. Although I can only read block letters, not cursive.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:24 AM   #1613
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Cyrillic is easy to learn. Although I can only read block letters, not cursive.
I learnt Cyrillic very quickly. Both block & cursive.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 03:48 PM   #1614
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Too bad that Russia doesn't use also the latin script on its road signs (at least on motorways/main routes). It's virtually impossible for Westerners to travel by car in Russia.
Russia is now mostly covered by both paper and gps mapping.
Cyrillic isn't difficult to learn to read and pronounce.
I started travelling by car to Russia in 2005 and the first time was with paper maps. I've been across Europe to Moscow 6 times now and travelled about in western Russia off the beaten track. Never had any problems.
The biggest challenge might be language and the "road police = DPS = GAI" but in my experience not a problem. Don't get me wrong, I have been stopped on several occasions over the years but the only thing I ever "mislaid" was a box of chocolates. No fines EVER.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #1615
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Cyrillic is easy to learn. Although I can only read block letters, not cursive.


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Old April 26th, 2013, 02:24 AM   #1616
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That's one of the reasons I've never learnt cursive Cyrillic - it looks complicated. But I don't really need it anyway, block is enough.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #1617
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Actually many people draws cursive letters separately and mixing them with block letters. The only problem is that many people have very illegible hand.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 01:40 PM   #1618
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Actually many people draws cursive letters separately and mixing them with block letters.
Same in Latin.
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What the hell happened here?
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