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Old April 23rd, 2008, 02:18 PM   #21
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High-speed rail link will slash travel times to Beijing, Shanghai
Hong Kong Standard
Wednesday, April 23, 2008



Hong Kong will become the staging point for fast-track trips to a host of mainland cities after the green light was given for a HK$39.5 billion rail link connecting the city to Guangzhou and Shenzhen.

Due for completion in 2014/2015, when it will be fully integrated with the mainlands rail network, the link starting in West Kowloon will cut travel times between Hong Kong and Beijing and Shanghai from the current 24 and 20 hours to 10 and eight, respectively.

Secretary for Transport and Housing Eva Cheng Yu-wah said: The integration into West Kowloon will greatly enhance the prominence of the rail link as the gateway to mainland China.

Travel times between Hong Kong and Guangzhou will be cut in half to 48 minutes, officials said, and the link will dovetail into other networks all over the mainland from the Guangzhou hub.

The Hong Kong section a 26-kilometer underground track on which trains will run at speeds of up to 200 kilometers per hour was endorsed by the Executive Council yesterday.

Cheng said the initial construction cost will be paid by the government while the MTR Corporation (0066) will be given the right to operate the line for 50 years through the payment of annual concession fees under a build-operate- transfer arrangement that is similar to one reached for the Sha Tin-to-Central link.

Profits will be shared on a ratio of nine to one between the government and the MTRC.

The Express Rail Link will run from a terminus in West Kowloon the only stop
in Hong Kong through stops in Futian and Longhua in Shenzhen, and Humen in Dongguan before the journey ends at Shibi in Guangzhou.

Cheng said the government believes the area around the terminus, which will extend into the West Kowloon cultural district, will become a new commercial center as well as a transport hub.

The integration into West Kowloon will greatly enhance the district as a regional cultural hub, she said.

Fares for the journey have yet to be determined as they will be subject to talks the government will hold with mainland authorities.

Fares of the existing through-train service will be the starting point of reference.

Cheng said 37 percent of travelers on the new express link are expected to be new passengers, meaning the rest would be people currently using other means of transport like the through train or the cross-boundary coaches.

She expects the terminus to accommodate 10 trains, both ways, an hour, though the number of trains will be Leg 1based on market forces. Cheng also pointed out the development rights for the site above the West Kowloon terminus - at 5.8 hectares - will not be granted to the MTR. Instead it will be given to the Development Bureau for normal land auction procedures.

There will be pedestrian crossings linking the three stations in the area - the West Kowloon terminus which will Leg 2have 14 terminals, the West Kowloon Station on the Kowloon Southern Link, as well as the existing Kowloon station.

Work is expected to commence next year after gaining funding approval from the Legislative Council.

Cheng said the project will create 5,000 jobs during construction and another 10,000 afterwards.

MTRC chief executive Chow Leg 3Chung-kong welcomed the endorsement, saying fares will be competitive.

Legco transport panel chairman, Democrat Andrew Cheng Kar-foo, said he was opposed to the government's granting operating rights to the MTR.

He said public bidding would have allowed for the possibility of cheaper fares.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:18 PM   #22
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From MTRC Webpage (http://www.mtr.com.hk)



Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link




Proposed Express Rail Link (Hong Kong Section)


Estimated Journey Time

Futian, Shenzhen 14 min
Longhua, Shenzhen 23 min
Shibi, Guangzhou 48 min
Changsha, Hunan 4 hours
Nanning, Guangxi 5 hours
Fuzhou, Fujian 5 hours
Wuhan, Hubei 5 hours
Shanghai 8 hours
Beijing 10 hours
Chengdu, Sichuan 12 hours

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Old April 30th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #23
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Old May 1st, 2008, 05:41 AM   #24
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so it will be mostly underground or thats only with the hong kong section?

but is this will be classified as HSR?
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Old May 1st, 2008, 06:34 AM   #25
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This will be HSR and most of the Hong Kong portion will be underground due to the terrain.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 04:21 PM   #26
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Underground station construction begins
21 August 2008
South China Morning Post

Work started in Shenzhen yesterday on the mainland's first main-line underground railway station.

The project will form part of the planned Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong express rail link, connecting Hong Kong to the nation's high-speed rail network, mainland media reported.

The Shenzhen Municipal Urban Planning Bureau said the new three-storey station in Futian district, the city's booming commercial area, would be a passenger transfer hub for the Pearl River Delta's intercity rail network, Xinhua reported.

One floor of the underground project will be occupied by the express rail station, another will be used to connect to Shenzhen's metro system, and the third will house a ticketing hall.

Passengers will have to take the subway to reach the express rail line because the underground station will not have car parking.

Xinhua said the expected travelling time between Guangzhou and Shenzhen would be 33 minutes, and 27 minutes between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

The Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link is a proposed 142km express line to connect the major Guangdong centres of Guangzhou, Dongguan and Shenzhen with Hong Kong, and is to be completed by 2014.

All of the infrastructure for the project, including tracks and stations, will be built from scratch.

The express line is expected to boost the inflow of people and goods to Hong Kong and the most developed areas of Guangdong. The Hong Kong government expects the line to carry 100,000 passengers a day by 2020 and 120,000 by 2030.

Later, commuters will be able to switch to such express long-haul services as the proposed Beijing-Guangzhou and Hangzhou -Fuzhou -Shenzhen passenger lines. Those two lines are expected to be completed around 2015.

Hong Kong rail travellers will be able to reach Beijing in 10 hours, compared with 20-plus hours now.
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Old October 16th, 2008, 08:40 AM   #27
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Route of express rail link shifted to avoid older districts
1 October 2008
South China Morning Post

The MTR Corporation has amended its plans for the multibillion-dollar cross-border express rail link between Guangzhou and Hong Kong by shifting its route westwards to avoid densely built-up older districts in its southern Hong Kong section.

The new alignment of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link was published yesterday in a submission by the rail operator to the Environmental Protection Department.

The corporation described the new alignment as "optimised" after studying proposals to "enhance the overall rail network for the benefits of the local community and by taking account of all interfacing projects and constraints".

The rail link will enhance Hong Kong's transport links with the mainland. Estimated to cost HK$39.5 billion, it is expected to shorten the rail journey to Guangzhou from nearly two hours to 48 minutes.

The line, construction of which is expected to begin next year for operation by 2015, will run underground and there will be no station between its terminus in West Kowloon and Futian station in Shenzhen.

The corporation said the length of the Hong Kong section of the line remained at 26km under the revised plan, but its southern section had been shifted westwards to avoid going underneath Sham Shui Po and Shek Kip Mei and their clusters of old buildings. Instead, the line would run under Nam Cheong, Lai Chi Kok and Kwai Chung.

A graded historical building would now not face any effects from the project, but the old Lai Chi Kok Hospital was added to buildings that might be affected. Ventilation buildings for the line were also repositioned under the new plan.

Affected areas might be exposed to noise during construction, which the MTR has pledged to mitigate. It said that in soft ground, the tunnel would be constructed mainly by a tunnel-boring machine, and drill and blast techniques in rock strata.

"The changes are made to avoid the areas with many buildings to minimise impacts on residents and the traffic," said a spokeswoman, who could not say at this stage whether the change would lower or raise costs.

She rejected suggestions that the move was to reduce potential effects of tunnelling on old and poorly maintained buildings in Sham Shui Po, saying the tunnel - at a depth of 30 metres - would have minimal effect on the land surface.

Yau Tsim Mong district council member Chan Man-yau said the council had not been informed about the alignment changes, though the MTR Corp had agreed to report on progress next week.

He said that while the council would need further details about the project to gauge the effects of construction on the district, he believed the new alignment might attract more complaints than the old one.

"The previous alignment would have gone beneath the old district. Now it will go through newly developed zones, and residents there will certainly make more noise about the project," he said.
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Old October 16th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #28
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 10:09 AM   #29
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how did they get 10hr travel time between HK and Beijing? currently it takes 10hr for the CRH train to run from Shanghai to Beijing, which is less than half of the distance between HK and Beijing.
They need 350km/h trains at least if they are going to achieve this.
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how did they get 10hr travel time between HK and Beijing? currently it takes 10hr for the CRH train to run from Shanghai to Beijing, which is less than half of the distance between HK and Beijing.
They need 350km/h trains at least if they are going to achieve this.
Aren't they talking about the future HSR?

Currently, it takes approximately 24 hours to reach Beijing by train.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 06:23 AM   #31
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HK Gov't Press Release:

Gazettal of Hong Kong Section of Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link

HK Gov't Gazette:
Railways Ordinance (Chapter 519) (Notice under section 6(4))--Hong Kong Section of Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link

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Old November 28th, 2008, 05:22 PM   #32
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Direct trains to Guangzhou put cross-border links back on track
28 November 2008
South China Morning Post

Choi Wai-hang was one of the frequent travellers on the Guangzhou-Kowloon through trains in the early days of its resumption of service in 1979.

He knows well how the service made the cross-border journey less tiresome. After the through service between Guangzhou and Kowloon was suspended in 1949, travellers from Hong Kong had to cross the border on foot to Shenzhen to catch another train to Guangzhou after the Kowloon-Canton train from Hung Hom reached Lo Wu.

"We used to catch a train from Hung Hom at 7am and would not arrive in Guangzhou until 3pm or 4pm that day.

"It's hard for the younger generation to imagine that a trip between Hong Kong and Guangzhou would take up to nine hours," said Mr Choi, director of Reiss, Bradley and Company, a British trading firm in Hong Kong in the late 1970s.

The direct service between the two cities opened in 1911 but was suspended in 1949 after the founding of the People's Republic of China. Starting from the late 1950s, Mr Choi used to travel to Guangzhou to attend the China Import and Export Fair, popularly known as the Canton Fair, held twice a year in the spring and autumn. The Canton Fair, which was inaugurated in 1957, is the mainland's largest trade fair.

"Until the late 1970s, you could not return to the mainland unless you held a permit applied for by your relatives on the mainland or an invitation issued by Canton Fair organisers," Mr Choi explains.

Cross-border journeys became easier following the re-introduction of direct trains to Guangzhou on April 4, 1979, a few months after the mainland embarked on the path of opening up and reform.

Hong Kong 1980, the colonial government's annual report, described the resumption after a 30-year suspension as "the most momentous event" of 1979 for the Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation.

The trains were air conditioned with 640 reclining seats.

"There was only a pair of trains operating daily between Hong Kong and Guangzhou in 1979 and the fare for a single trip was about HK$20," Mr Choi said. "Most passengers were Hong Kong businessmen and people visiting their relatives on the mainland."

Mr Choi, who is a veteran specialist in China's trade and a former Hong Kong deputy to the National People's Congress, said a journey between Kowloon and Guangzhou on a through train took nearly four hours in the late 1970s.

"It was just half the time spent before the resumption of the through train service and we no longer had to get off the train in Lo Wu and walk across the border to catch another train," he said. "From then on, it became more convenient for us to travel to the mainland."

There are now 12 pairs of trains operating daily between Hong Kong and Guangzhou and the journey time is 100 minutes. The fare for a single journey is HK$190. However, the travel time to the provincial capital is set to be cut by at least half, thanks to a rail link set to be completed in 2014-2015, under a HK$39.5 billion cross-border project approved early this year.

Under the project, Hong Kong will be integrated with the mainland's rail network. Starting in West Kowloon, the link will cut travel time between Hong Kong and Guangzhou by 48 minutes, from the 100 minutes of the Kowloon-Guangzhou link, and will dovetail with all mainland networks from the Guangzhou hub.

KCRC operations were merged with those of the MTR Corporation in December last year.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 04:34 AM   #33
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高鐵港段料創逾萬職
29/11/2008


【本報訊】港府昨日在憲報刊登廣深港高速鐵路香港段(高鐵)鐵路方案,預計建造工程可於明年年底展開,於二○一四或一五年完成。該項目在施工期及營運期可分別創造約五千五百及一萬個職位。

港府發言人表示,高鐵項目包括一個設在西九龍的總站,一條由西九龍延伸至皇崗邊界的專用隧道,藉以連接鐵路的內地段。透過接駁毗鄰的機鐵線九龍站,以及未來九龍南線柯士甸站,高鐵乘客可方便前往本港不同地方。

發言人謂,高鐵乘客將來前往深圳和廣州,分別只需約十五分鐘及五十分鐘,即比現時來往粵港的城際鐵路快一倍。
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Old December 14th, 2008, 06:39 AM   #34
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An alternate route in addition to the West Kowloon HSR :

Airport rail link may connect to local network
8 December 2008
South China Morning Post

The planned high-speed rail link between Hong Kong and Shenzhen airports may hook up with Hong Kong's local railway network in a bid to create a larger pool of passengers and boost development in the northwestern New Territories, sources said.

That means the express rail link, originally planned as a direct link taking just 17 minutes to travel between the two airports, would have a stop connecting it to West Rail.

The stop would be in Yuen Long or Tuen Mun, and the government is looking at which option would offer the best opportunities. Tuen Mun councillors have been mobilising the community to fight for the station to be built there, but a source said the government was leaning towards Yuen Long.

"New developments are planned in Yuen Long and it is close to the [Lok Ma Chau] checkpoint, so it may allow more people to use the rail," a government source said.

A feasibility study on the rail link, which will include information on its route and estimated cost, will be released by the end of this month.

Having a stop in Yuen Long would not only provide people in Futian with a fast track to Chek Lap Kok airport, but it would also allow mainland passengers a shorter trip to centres such as Tsim Sha Tsui.

However, the government is still debating if the station should be built at the same time as the rail link.

"Construction of a rail line takes at least eight to 10 years after it is proposed, so even if early passenger forecasts do not support the construction of a stop, by the time the rail line is finished the situation could be quite different," a government source said.

The idea of a high-speed rail link that will shorten journeys between Chek Lap Kok and Shenzhen Baoan International airport from an hour to about 20 minutes was first proposed by the Bauhinia Foundation, a think-tank close to the government, in August last year.

The express link would not open before 2016 - several years behind an intercity rail link between Shenzhen airport and Guangzhou, expected to begin running in 2011.

The 12.5 billion yuan (HK$14 billion) Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen rail link will connect to the Hong Kong-Shenzhen airport route.


Bauhinia Foundation researcher Zhu Wenhui said the connection would give the airport railway nearly 30 million potential passengers.

"With or without Hong Kong, the railway loop that links up the entire Pearl River Delta will be completed in a few years, so we can hook up or we can be left out," Dr Zhu said.

Law Cheung-kwok, associate director of the Aviation Policy and Research Centre at Chinese University, has warned that the cost of the railway would not be sustainable as there are already many cross-border transport choices offered at Hong Kong airport.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #35
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Would this entail direct express trains between the HK airport and Shenzhen? If that happens then the Lantau Island railway line will have to be regauged by 3 mm.
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I'm not sure whether this is going to be a new railway or an extension of the Airport Express line. But it will be a new line to be built, and may not need regauging the existing lines if it is completely new infrastructure and not an extension.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 06:02 PM   #37
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廣深港鐵路毀滅家園
11 December 2008
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【太陽報專訊】耗資四百億元的廣深港高速鐵路香港段近日終於刊憲,徵詢市民意見。廣深港高速鐵路不但耗資大量公帑,更對不少市民的生活環境構成嚴重影響,但關注該等工程的社會人士卻寥寥可數,此現象令筆者極為憂慮。事實上,廣深港高速鐵路自劃定路線開始,已經犯下極大錯誤。

多年前,政府向立法會提交文件,就廣深港高速鐵路香港段的路線提出兩個方案,其中一個方案是連接現時的西鐵網絡,以錦上路為香港段的終點站;另一個方案是獨立選線,由深圳邊境直達西九龍文化藝術區。當時筆者強烈反對獨立選線方案,認為此方案會令新界東以及新界西數以百萬計市民,必須花費大量時間,才可前往西九使用高速鐵路服務。

反之,若以錦上路為終點站,新界東及新界西的市民便可透過西鐵網絡,快捷地前往廣深港高速鐵路香港段的終點站。此外,以西九為終點站,意味?廣深港高速鐵路香港段的長度必會大增,更多市民必會被鐵路工程影響,而收回土地所須作出的賠償金額亦會大增。可惜的是,當時大部分議員並沒有意識到問題的嚴重性,貿然支持獨立選線的方案,當時政府對公眾作出的諮詢工作更是十分馬虎,絕大多數市民無從得知廣深港高速鐵路的具體內容。

結果,此等對社會影響極大的方案,最終在沒有爭議的情況下獲得通過。最近當局將廣深港高速鐵路香港段刊憲,並設有網頁,上載了大量與鐵路規劃及收地有關的圖則,不少市民才得知自己的土地被收回,或驚覺廣深港高速鐵路將會在門前經過。所謂亡羊補牢,未為晚也,現在距離諮詢期截止日期尚有兩個月,希望市民可以關注鐵路對自己權益構成的影響。如市民漠視此寶貴機會,政府一錘定音,落實工程,屆時才感到後悔便會為時已晚。
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Old December 27th, 2008, 10:34 AM   #38
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Villagers take protest over rail link to the roads
22 December 2008
South China Morning Post

New Territories villagers who fear their homes will be destroyed to make way for a section of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong rail link staged a slow-drive protest yesterday.

Thirteen cars and 250 villagers from Tsoi Yuen Tsuen, a farming community of 500 in Shek Kong, made their way slowly from the village, along Kam Tin Road to Kam Sheung Road MTR station.

Albert Chan Wai-yip and Wong Sing-chi, lawmakers for the New Territories West and East constituencies, respectively, and three district council members joined the rally.

They were protesting that the Lands Department had not given them a chance to voice their concerns about the proposed rail link.

Up to October, information on the link indicated it would run through eight villages, which did not include Tsoi Yuen Tsuen, said Ko Chun-heung, chairwoman of a concern group on the rail link's construction impact on the village.

"But suddenly, in November, the Lands Department put up notices saying they would take the land and that villagers would have to leave, and they sent people to take measurements," she said.

The Government Gazette of November 28 said a 16km underground section of the rail link would connect a terminus in West Kowloon to a proposed rescue station at Shek Kong.

Ms Ko said the Lands Department had not given them a chance to comment after the government gazetted the plan and before the Lands Department took measurements.

Shek Kong village head Raymond Tang Wai-man, who did not take part yesterday but who says he supports the protesters, said he did not know about the plan until it appeared in the Gazette.

Ms Ko, 48, whose family have lived in Shek Kong for three generations, said two-thirds of the villagers had lived on the land for three or four generations, and 10 per cent were over 60.

The Development Bureau, which oversees the Lands Department, said it could not comment on the protest.
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Old December 28th, 2008, 04:54 PM   #39
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I'm not sure whether this is going to be a new railway or an extension of the Airport Express line. But it will be a new line to be built, and may not need regauging the existing lines if it is completely new infrastructure and not an extension.
I would imagine that will be a new line separating from the existing Airport Express.
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Old December 28th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #40
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Villagers take protest over rail link to the roads
22 December 2008
South China Morning Post
Isn't the purpose of the Gazette to obtain public opinion and concern regarding on the project? And thereafter revise the design accordingly. The currently alignment isn't final and still subjects to change. People seem to be misled the design is done and their is gone for sure. It is the time to raise your voice now if you are concerned.
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