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Old September 10th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #381
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Are these farmers getting compensation?
No. If they resists they got shot, too.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #382
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No. If they resists they got shot, too.
Right after they are shot, their organs are removed and sold to the highest bidder. Of course, their next of kin gets billed for the bullet. Everybody in the west should know this is standard practice for China. lol.

Seriously, these farmers are generously compensated for their lost. How about making a little personal sacrifice for the people of Hong Kong. HK must connect to the mainland's HSR network to remain relevant.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #383
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"a little personal sacrifice"... nice euphemism.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #384
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They live in one of the highest density cities on earth, if they really want to farm, move to the mainland...
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Old September 13th, 2010, 11:57 AM   #385
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Seriously, these farmers are generously compensated for their lost. How about making a little personal sacrifice for the people of Hong Kong. HK must connect to the mainland's HSR network to remain relevant.
Well, capitalists don't think of the social good.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 08:55 PM   #386
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Jacobs Receives Contract to Support Hong Kong Section of the Express Rail Link Project

PASADENA, Calif., Sept. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Jacobs Engineering Group Inc. (NYSE: JEC) announced today that it received a contract from the Highways Department of the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region to provide engineering services for the construction, testing and commissioning phase of the Hong Kong section of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link (XRL).

The contract value is estimated at HK$83.8 million (approx US$10 million).

Jacobs' scope of work for the project includes monitoring and verification of the construction work that is executed by MTR Corporation Limited and its contractors. This is the follow-on contract to the design and site investigation phase services that Jacobs has been delivering since 2009. Jacobs' Hong Kong office will continue to work directly with the Railway Development Office of the Highways Department, which plans and coordinates the implementation of new rail projects in Hong Kong.

The Hong Kong section of the XRL will run in the form of a tunnel from a new terminus at West Kowloon to Huanggang in Shenzhen for connection with China's Mainland section. Construction has commenced and is expected to be complete in 2015.

In making the announcement, Jacobs Group Vice President Chris Nagel stated, "We have established a sound working relationship with the Railway Development Office of the Highways Department. We are pleased to be given this opportunity to further support the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region on this strategic infrastructure project to enhance Hong Kong's connectivity with Mainland China and help them maintain Hong Kong's position as the southern gateway to China."

Jacobs is one of the world's largest and most diverse providers of technical, professional, and construction services.

Any statements made in this release that are not based on historical fact are forward-looking statements. Although such statements are based on management's current estimates and expectations, and currently available competitive, financial, and economic data, forward-looking statements are inherently uncertain. We, therefore, caution the reader that there are a variety of factors that could cause business conditions and results to differ materially from what is contained in our forward-looking statements. For a description of some of the factors which may occur that could cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements please refer to our 2009 Form 10-K, and in particular the discussions contained under Items 1 - Business, 1A - Risk Factors, 3 - Legal Proceedings, and 7 - Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations. We also caution the readers of this release that we do not undertake to update any forward-looking statements made herein.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 03:44 PM   #387
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Rail-link villagers plead for more time
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Monday, September 20, 2010

Villagers near Yuen Long want another six months before they make way for a proposed rail link.

Residents of Choi Yuen Tsuen are in the path of the HK$66.9 billion express line to Guangzhou and face a deadline of October 16.

However, they pleaded for more time yesterday as they began celebrations for their last Mid-Autumn Festival at the site.

Concern Group chairwoman Ko Chun-heung said residents need at least six more months because most land deals and basic facilities at the new village many are moving to are not complete yet.

"Most of us applied for farming licenses in March, but could only get approvals in late August. It has delayed the whole relocation progress because the farmland we'll buy is linked to the license approval," Ko said.

Villagers are receiving compensation ranging from HK$500,000 to several million dollars.

More than 150 households will have to move out to make way for the rail link.

Yip Shui-lai, 72, who has lived in the village for 42 years, said: "It's only less than a month before the government resumes the land. It's impossible for many of us to relocate to the new place within such a short period of time."

Concern Group member Chu Hoi- dick said the government should fulfill its promise on the basic principle of "No resumption without relocation."

Fifty households will move to a smaller replica village near Tai Wo Tsuen, about three kilometers away from their present homes.

Most of the remaining 100 households that do not want to move to the new village will buy farmland elsewhere with the government compensation.

Some are also waiting to be allocated public housing.

More than 100 residents and visitors yesterday put on cultural performances and plays, and enjoyed rice dumplings after decorating the village with lanterns.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 08:04 PM   #388
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 05:07 AM   #389
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Alright, some progress...

Today's puzzle, how many cranes are there in these pictures?
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 05:26 AM   #390
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believe it or not, I tried to count before you assign the homework
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Old September 24th, 2010, 04:26 AM   #391
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believe it or not, I tried to count before you assign the homework
hehehe behind are not cranes for the construction site but the cranes from some small boats that are anchored right behind the construction site. Nothing to do with the construction site.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #392
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Don't think there are any boats with cranes in the harbour behind the site.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 07:15 AM   #393
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Mmm you're probably right! My bad!
It's because just behind the ICC tower when you're about to take the West Harbour Tunnel there are a lot of small boats with cranes on your right hand side (see here), but it seems that there are not these type of boats on the south part of the construction site.
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Old October 4th, 2010, 04:32 AM   #394
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is this the site of the future hsr station?



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Old October 4th, 2010, 04:25 PM   #395
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is this the site of the future hsr station?



That's the approach into the station, which is to the right side of the bridge pictured.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 06:44 PM   #396
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Government pledges to take humane approach to evictions for rail work
21 September 2010
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The administration will adopt a "humane approach" to evictions from Tsoi Yuen Tsuen when it takes over the village in about a month's time for construction of the HK$66.9 billion high-speed rail line to Guangzhou.

The village land will be cleared to make way for the railway, but undersecretary for transport and housing Yau Shing-mu did not specify yesterday how much extra time the residents would be given to move out.

"If they already have plans to move out, and they only need more time to make arrangements for their belongings and build new houses, then we will adopt a humane approach. We could make room [for an extension]," Yau said.

"But if they have no plan to move, for the sake of proper use of public funds, we will have to strictly enforce our policy."

A question mark hangs over the future of about 200 villagers who have vowed to rebuild their homes elsewhere but have yet to seal a deal for a new site in Pat Heung. At a Legco subcommittee meeting yesterday, Heung Yee Kuk chairman Lau Wong-fat said existing Pat Heung residents did not want the new neighbours but the kuk and officials were mediating.

Yau said: "Right now, we are still optimistic the whole process will end nicely." He said the MTR, which is building the line, could start work on government land and abandoned farmland but time was tight because some work had to be done before the April start of the rainy season.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 04:25 PM   #397
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Express rail cost estimates are fine, MTR says
11 October 2010
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Despite predicting a possibly hefty increase in the cost of constructing its South Island Line, the MTR Corporation says it will stay within the HK$66.9 billion budget provided for the Express Rail Link - Hong Kong's high-speed railway to Guangzhou.

The inconsistency in the cost estimates for the two railway projects has prompted one critic to warn that the Express Rail Link (XRL) faces the risk of unexpected cost surges.

The 26-kilometre XRL will be the world's most expensive railway per kilometre when it is completed in 2015. Once operational it will connect Hong Kong's rail service to the mainland's high speed railway network - which will be the world's most extensive, exceeding 13,000 kilometres by then.

"Factors affecting prices and possible changes in prices have already been taken into consideration in the cost estimate for the XRL project that has been reviewed by an independent engineering consultant when the funding was sought in 2009," said an MTR spokesperson

"The contract awarded, as stated in the half-yearly report in July to the Legislative Council, revealed that we are within budget and have confidence that the project will be delivered within the budget," the spokesperson added.

In January, there were angry public protests around the Legislative Council Building expressing opposition to the high price tag and environmental impact of the XRL. Despite the protests, the Legislative Council approved the project.

On September 27 the South China Morning Post quoted MTR as saying the HK$7 billion budget for the South Island Line (East) may increase by as much as 55 per cent to HK$10.8 billion due to big rises in material costs.

The potentially large rise in costs shocked lawmakers, who warned that they would press the Hong Kong-listed company to explain.

The 7km South Island Line (East) section will run between Admiralty and South Horizons, and is expected to be completed in 2015.

"Even if what the MTR says is true, doesn't that cast its budgeting process in doubt?" said an engineering consultant.

"It doesn't make sense to allow for a big cost increase in XRL but not the South Island Line. Either the South Island Line must have had a lower original budget for material costs, or they simply underbudgeted the construction," added the consultant.

In September last year, the Hong Kong government publicly put the XRL's cost at HK$39.5 billion. In the second half of the year the MTR did a re-estimate of the XRL's cost and raised it to HK$66.9 billion, pointed out Albert Lai Kwong-tak, chairman of Professional Commons, a group that opposed the XRL and proposed a cheaper HK$25 billion alternative.

"That price tag was based on the latest trends in material and labour cost increases," said Lai, who added that the last time a cost estimate was done on the South Island Line was about two years ago.

Nonetheless, the XRL faces further unexpected cost increases from its West Kowloon Terminus, warned Lai.

"The ground condition at the West Kowloon Terminus is much worse than they thought, based on feedback from people doing the construction work."

The terminus site is reclaimed land, explained Lai.

"It takes a long time for sea mud to be consolidated. That may cause price increases. The question is whether it is more or less than the contingency they allow for," he said.

"Underground conditions is the area with the most uncertainty that may cause unexpected cost increases."

The entire 26km Hong Kong section of the high-speed railway will be underground.

Marco Mak, a Taifook Securities analyst, sees a positive side to the rising material costs for MTR, as that will mean rising property prices.

Usually there is a positive correlation between building material costs and property prices, said Mak. "MTR gets most of its profits from property development."

Although the MTR is the major investor in the South Island Line, the government will provide subsidies for it, so the cost overrun will be borne by the government, he said. "It won't have an impact on MTR's bottom line."
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Old October 14th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #398
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Hkskyline, it seems that you stands for againest HSR side~~

Although it is very high cost to build, I think that construction worth to do it.
On the other side, I will againest for the station at Kam Shui Rd only.

If the station just at Kam Shui Rd, It will be the failure project like Taiwan HSR and West Rail (Phase 1).

I just stands for Urban Planning and Transportation planning side.
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Hkskyline, it seems that you stands for againest HSR side~~

Although it is very high cost to build, I think that construction worth to do it.
On the other side, I will againest for the station at Kam Shui Rd only.

If the station just at Kam Shui Rd, It will be the failure project like Taiwan HSR and West Rail (Phase 1).

I just stands for Urban Planning and Transportation planning side.
I have my doubts over the cost, but in principle I think the link is needed.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 07:57 AM   #400
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The Hong Kong section of the XRL will run in the form of a tunnel from a new terminus at West Kowloon to Huanggang in Shenzhen for connection with China's Mainland section. Construction has commenced and is expected to be complete in 2015.
^ Thats kinda slow by Chinese standards. btw in one of the pics thats a lot of cranes! lol
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