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Old May 1st, 2011, 07:47 AM   #481
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 01:15 PM   #484
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Just asking.

Will there be trains that will depart from Hong Kong and arrive at Guangzhou/Wuhan/(and Beijing in the future) directly NON-STOP? Or will the train stop at every station?

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And do the passengers need to get off the train in Shenzhen north station and transit to another train to Xiamen or Shanghai? Or will the train go directly to xiamen DIRECTLY NONSTOP from HK?

If they stop at every station (more than 1) I will say that this "high speed rail" is completely useless.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 10:39 AM   #485
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Just asking.

Will there be trains that will depart from Hong Kong and arrive at Guangzhou/Wuhan/(and Beijing in the future)
What is due to open first: Wuhan-Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang-Beijing high speed railway, or Shenzhen-Hong Kong high speed railway?
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directly NON-STOP? Or will the train stop at every station?
There are no longer any non-stop trains between Guangzhou South and Wuhan, they have been abolished. All trains stop at Changsha.

Nonstop trains used to take 3:08. One stop trains take 3:16.

There do not seem to be any trains stopping at every station. There are about 20 stations between Guangzhou South and Wuhan, but most trains only make 7...8 stops. All stop at Changsha, but each train seems to make and skip different stops in between. Total trip time around 3:50.
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And do the passengers need to get off the train in Shenzhen north station and transit to another train to Xiamen or Shanghai? Or will the train go directly to xiamen DIRECTLY NONSTOP from HK?
The junction at Longhua Station seems to mean that Hong Kong-Xiamen trains have to come to stop there just to reverse direction. And if they do, why not pick up passengers as well, and continue as a direct but stopping trains?
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If they stop at every station (more than 1) I will say that this "high speed rail" is completely useless.
The multistop trains Guangzhou South - Wuhan still get through in 3:50. Still more useful than 10 hour low speed trains.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #486
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Haha thanks

I am quite disappointed according to your information that there will be no non-stop trains. I hope there is direct trains from shanghai to hong kong . This is one of the most crowded air route in the world.

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Haha agree. But do you know if there is any "express" trains from hong kong that will skip every stop in shenzhen? Shenzhen has 3 stations. It is unfair and will be annoying for people going to cities further away.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 04:16 PM   #487
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To my understanding, one of the criteria for mainland stations to have service to Hong Kong, rather it's the terminus or not, is the stations must have custom and immigration facility inside the building. So the numbers of stations with train service directly to Hong Kong will be quite limited, and probably only limited to the 1st tier big cities in short term.
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To my understanding, one of the criteria for mainland stations to have service to Hong Kong, rather it's the terminus or not, is the stations must have custom and immigration facility inside the building. So the numbers of stations with train service directly to Hong Kong will be quite limited, and probably only limited to the 1st tier big cities in short term.
MTR Guangdong through trains now travel to Foshan once daily and Zhaoqing once daily. Do Foshan and Zhaoqing stations now have immigration facilities?
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To my understanding, through train services to Foshan and Zhaoqing have no immigration facilities. They have to get off and do immigration at Shang Ping.
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Old May 23rd, 2011, 05:55 PM   #490
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Railway protester in court for tearing off police officer's epaulette
6 May 2011
South China Morning Post

An activist accused of tearing off a police officer's epaulette in a protest last year appeared in court yesterday accused of criminal damage.

Yang Kuang, 43, a programme host on Green Radio, an internet radio station, pleaded not guilty at Eastern Court.

The incident took place on January 15 during a demonstration outside the Legislative Council building against construction of the high-speed rail line to Guangzhou.

Judge Gary Lam Kar-yan ruled that Yang had a case to answer. The court heard Yang clashed with policeman Sze Yu-leong at the junction of Jackson Road and Chater Road when Legco discussed funding for the high-speed rail line. Sze said he formed a human chain with 40 officers by holding hands to prevent the protesters from lunging towards Legco.

"I warned him not to lunge forward, but he ignored the warning and continue lunging towards the human blockade," he told the court. "I took several small steps backwards because of the force. He used his left hand to clutch at my left epaulette. He kept pulling it until I swayed a bit.

"I warned him to withdraw his hand and back off, but he ignored the warning and the badge was torn off." A 17-minute video was played in court showing Yang's clash with police.

Sze said the badge was damaged and added that he and his colleagues used slight force to prise the badge from Yang's grasp.

Defence counsel Randy Shek said Sze pushed Yang's chest with both hands to stop him from proceeding.

Shek said the badge was damaged by the police when they tried to get it back. Sze said he did not rule out such a possibility.
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 07:34 PM   #491
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NGO warns of asbestos in sites of demolition
29 March 2011
China Daily - Hong Kong Edition

An NGO warned on Monday that workers' health is being placed at risk of asbestos, a banned cancer-causing building material at demolition sites.

Trevor Sun, project manager of the Hong Kong Workers' Health Centre, told at a news conference that the health of workers and residents in Choi Yuen Village and Lower Ngau Tau Kok (II) Estate was being endangered by asbestos residues found in randomly piled rubble around demolition sites.

Sun showed results of a laboratory test on rubble samples from the sites, showing the presence of asbestos.

He suggested that workers and citizens' health may have been undermined by the asbestos tossed in rubble heaps in Choi Yuen Village by the Mass Transit Railway Corporation (MTRC).

He said that the contractor had been working against the provisions of the Air Pollution Control Ordinance while demolishing buildings.

He also pointed out that 1,100 of 1,400 buildings given preliminary evaluation under the Hong Kong Housing Society and Urban Renewal Authority's "Operation Building Bright" program contained asbestos.

Asbestos was widely used in construction before the 1980s.

Tse Lap Ah, assistant professor at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said asbestos may lead to serious illness like pleural endotheliomas and asbetosis, and even lung cancer.

The malignant pleural endotheliomas and lung cancer still lack effective methods of treatment.

Most of the sufferers are shipyard and construction workers, he said.

The government has banned the import and sale of substances containing two kinds of asbestos since 1996.

However, other types of asbestos are still being imported to Hong Kong .

Sun said he hoped the Environmental Protection Department will help to augment building supervision and insist upon proper handing of asbestos rubble in Choi Yuen Village.

He also called on the Labour Department to make more careful examinations of demolishing workers to ensure they are properly equipped.

He also appealed for a physical check for the involved workers and citizens.

The MTRC said it was acting within the law on all phases of its work.

The environment and labor departments concurred that "no unlawful practices" had taken place during the demolition of Choi Yuen Village.

Housing Department replied that the area affected by the reconstruction of Lower Ngau Tau Kok (II) Estate is "quite limited".
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Old July 5th, 2011, 05:29 PM   #493
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Villagers raise stink over 'ridiculous' sewage fees
The Standard
Monday, July 04, 2011

MTR Corp has been accused of providing Choi Yuen Tsuen villagers with a defective sewage treatment system, resulting in them having to pay "unreasonably high" fees.

Thirty-five households from the village were relocated to temporary prefabricated housing in Yuen Long to make way for the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail link, before the construction of Choi Yuen New Village is completed by the end of the year.

But residents say each household has to pay more than HK$1,000 a month to hire sewage-sucking trucks to treat the waste water under the current treatment system designed and constructed by the MTRC.

Village concern group chairwoman Ko Chun-heung said the volume of sewage is high, as the runoff from sinks and showers, the so-called "gray water," is discharged to the centralized septic tanks, designed to only treat discharges from toilets - so-called "black water."

In addition, she said, ground water leaks into the septic tanks. Trucks need to be called at least three times a week, with villagers charged HK$1,500 per vehicle, invoices showed.

Longtime resident Yip Shui-lai said it is ridiculous for temporary villagers to be charged differently from others.

"No one in the New Territories has to bear such expensive sewer treatment fees like we do. But we have no choice but to pay," the 73-year-old farmer said.

"We are not running factories that generate a huge volume of sewage. Most of us live a simple farming life."

Concern group member and conservation activist Chu Hoi-dick said the system was sloppily and hastily designed by the railway operator last year, as it wanted residents to move out as soon as possible to make way for the high-speed railway.

"Villagers feel cheated by the MTRC, as they were not told about the high cost they would have to bear for sewage services," he said.

The estimated HK$100,000 bill has not yet been settled, and residents will meet Transport and Housing Bureau officials this morning.

An MTRC spokeswoman denied fees are as high as the villagers claim, saying the cost is between HK$10,000 and HK$20,000 a month.
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Trials for GZ-SZ high-speed rail
2011-July-27 08:53
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THE Guangzhou-Shenzhen section of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong high-speed rail opened for trial operations yesterday, one month after a test.

The section, part of the Beijing-Hong Kong rail, will officially open between Aug. 10 and 12 although a date has not yet been set.

The section starts at Guangzhou South Railway Station and ends at Futian Station in Shenzhen. The 104.5-kilometer rail was designed for speeds of up to 350 kilometers an hour.

The travel time from Shenzhen to Guangzhou will be cut to 25 minutes and it would take only four hours to Wuhan and eight hours to Beijing after the Beijing-Wuhan section is completed at the end of this year, Guangzhou Railway Group sources said yesterday.

In the initial stages, Shenzhen will run 50 trains to Guangzhou, Changsha and Wuhan a day. The opening of the section will help Shenzhen integrate with the nation’s high-speed rail network.

The Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong section has three stations in Shenzhen, including Guangming, Shenzhen North and Futian. Work on the 26-kilometer Hong Kong section started in 2010 and will be completed in 2015.

Futian Station in the Futian CBD will be China’s largest underground railway station when it opens in June next year.

Guangming Station is on Guanguang Road in Guangming New Zone, 30 kilometers from downtown Shenzhen.

The 3.95-billion-yuan (US$617 million) project will operate trains between Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Hong Kong.

Shenzhen transport commission has planned seven bus routes to connect the station. They will include three new routes connecting the Shiyan Bus Terminal, Qinghu Metro Station on Longhua Line and the Guangming grass ski slope.

Another four routes to be adjusted include Airport Route 5, 787 to Meilin Checkpoint, 788 to Shawan Bus Terminal and M218, a circular route in Guangming New Zone.

Shenzhen North Railway Station, which is 9.3 kilometers from the downtown area, is the largest transport hub in South China. It is also the transport hub for Shenzhen-Xiamen high-speed rail.
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Trials for GZ-SZ high-speed rail
2011-July-27 08:53
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The travel time from Shenzhen to Guangzhou will be cut to 25 minutes and it would take only four hours to Wuhan and eight hours to Beijing after the Beijing-Wuhan section is completed at the end of this year, Guangzhou Railway Group sources said yesterday.
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Work on the 26-kilometer Hong Kong section started in 2010 and will be completed in 2015.
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Futian Station in the Futian CBD will be China’s largest underground railway station when it opens in June next year.
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Shenzhen North Railway Station, which is 9.3 kilometers from the downtown area, is the largest transport hub in South China. It is also the transport hub for Shenzhen-Xiamen high-speed rail.
In which year shall Shenzhen-Xiamen high speed rail open?
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In which year shall Shenzhen-Xiamen high speed rail open?
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A high-speed railway reaching Guangzhou and Shenzhen of Guangdong province is scheduled to be completed at the end of 2012, which is expected to shorten the traveling time to three hours. Highways are being built to connect itself with Shanghai as well as Hangzhou of Zhejiang province.
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Trials for GZ-SZ high-speed rail
2011-July-27 08:53
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The section, part of the Beijing-Hong Kong rail, will officially open between Aug. 10 and 12 although a date has not yet been set.

The section starts at Guangzhou South Railway Station and ends at Futian Station in Shenzhen. The 104.5-kilometer rail was designed for speeds of up to 350 kilometers an hour.

The travel time from Shenzhen to Guangzhou will be cut to 25 minutes
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The Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong section has three stations in Shenzhen, including Guangming, Shenzhen North and Futian. Work on the 26-kilometer Hong Kong section started in 2010 and will be completed in 2015.

Futian Station in the Futian CBD will be China’s largest underground railway station when it opens in June next year.

Guangming Station is on Guanguang Road in Guangming New Zone, 30 kilometers from downtown Shenzhen.
Shall 25 minutes be the trip time from Guangzhou South to the nearest station in Shenzhen (Guangming), Longhua or Futian?
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Inspector calls amid fears of express rail link safety
The Standard
Thursday, August 04, 2011

A local think-tank has urged mainland authorities to set up an independent inspectorate to help ensure safety of the Hong Kong- Guangzhou Express Rail Link, amid public concerns after the fatal train crash near Wenzhou.

Professional Commons, led by Civic Party vice chairman Albert Lai Kwong-tak, said while the SAR has a regulatory body to oversee local railway safety, the lack of a corresponding mainland body would make it very difficult for the territory's government to ensure its section of the express rail link is safe.

Safety should be ensured along the entire rail link, not only the Hong Kong section, he stressed.

"There should be independent bodies on both sides [of the border] to exchange rail safety information and techniques," Lai said, calling for the mainland inspection body to be independent of the Ministry of Railways.

Commons member Paul Zimmerman said direct communication between the two bodies would be equally important.

The think-tank also called for a review of the terms of reference of the independent Hong Kong Railway Inspectorate - the railways branch of the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department - and its ability to ensure the safety of passengers and the system, including all cross- boundary services.

It also stressed the importance of a cooperation protocol between local and mainland inspectors.

Building of the express rail link began in January last year, with completion targeted for 2015.
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I think the central government should extend the Hong Kong based inspector's authority to the entire line, I hate to say this but it's almost impossible to set up anything that's "independent" in the mainland side.
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