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Old July 2nd, 2012, 09:22 PM   #361
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Today DSB has recieved permission from the nation railway authority, to resume passenger carrying services with the IC4 train sets.
The class was grounded in November because of 2 SPAD (Signals passed at danger) incidents.
Numerous tests have been carried out during the last 6-7 months, with experts from many companies and institutes participating and the conclusion is that the brakes work satisfactorily??
Trains though must not run without their electro magnetic brakes active. (They were not active on the 2 SPAD sets)

DSB has been testing the trains without passengers since February, and at the same time using the involuntary break, to upgrade 37 sets, which are now ready for service.
Initially they will put into service on the long regional service from Esbjerg to Aarhus now serviced by elderly MR sets, which can be taken out service.
Later they will reappear in the express Copenhagen – Aarhus – Aalborg Lyntog services.

The delivery of sets, both IC4 and IC2, from AnsaloBreda, agreed in the “Ultimatum agreement” has slipped seriously, with over 15 sets behind schedule. The consequence of this is, at present, unknown.

It seems unlikely that the IC4 trains will ever fulfill there intended role in front line service and will face early retirment, as both DSB and politicians, throughly tired of the whole IC4 affair, now seem to be set on electrifying the remainder of the main line net in Jutland (Kolding to Esbjerg by 2015) as well as the remaining regional lines on Zealland, out of Copenhagen. The timescale for these lines are tied up with the signalling programme and the completion of the Copenhagen – Ringsted – Femern link projects.

DSB is also making inquiries about the purchase of a well tried design of electric train sets and it has been decided to aquire / lease 2 –3 sets from different manufacturers for a through trial period (tecnical and passenger reaction) before commiting themselves. Initially it is thought that a order for 15 sets, covering services from Copenhagen to the whole of Southern Jutland, including Flensborg in Germany will be placed. An option for additional trains will almost certainly be included. A multi system type is being considered to faciltate running in Germany (Hamborg / Flensborg, Kiel) and Sweden.

Grounded IC4s languishing in Aarhus:

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Old July 3rd, 2012, 03:42 AM   #362
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Perhaps Hitachi will finally fix those IC4s up when they take control of AnsaldoBreda.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 09:26 AM   #363
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That all depends on the terms of the contract and on how much Hitachi is willing to invest in customer relations, and that depends on the deal being closed. It's just a rumour.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 07:44 PM   #364
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They should convert the remaining IC4 orders from AnsaldoBreda into V250 orders if they plan on electrification...
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 09:45 PM   #365
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They should convert the remaining IC4 orders from AnsaldoBreda into V250 orders if they plan on electrification...
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 10:57 PM   #366
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They should convert the remaining IC4 orders from AnsaldoBreda into V250 orders if they plan on electrification...
Hahahahaha I can never make up my mind whether you are simply a troll, an ingenious joker, or a complete idiot
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Old July 4th, 2012, 02:07 AM   #367
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They should convert the remaining IC4 orders from AnsaldoBreda into V250 orders if they plan on electrification...
Mother of god...
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Old July 4th, 2012, 11:23 AM   #368
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I have a feeling that just like the Norwegian railways the DSB will exclude AnsaldoBreda from any future tenders for new trains.

I wonder what the specifications will be for the new EMU's, then we can start to speculate on which manufacturer and type they should go for.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #369
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I have a feeling that just like the Norwegian railways the DSB will exclude AnsaldoBreda from any future tenders for new trains.
As Denmark is part of EU and Norway is not, I keep wondering whether the DAnish can bluntly exclude a supplier based on European fair competition on public tendering directives.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #370
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As Denmark is part of EU and Norway is not, I keep wondering whether the DAnish can bluntly exclude a supplier based on European fair competition on public tendering directives.
They can. And the rules are set by the WTO not the EU btw. Which is why Norway and Switzerland follow them too. (And why non European manufacturers sometimes hand in bids too...)

The rules do permit a two step process, where in the first step the supplier must meet certain objective criteria. Only the suppliers that survive this first step get invited for the second phase, which is probably what is meant with the exclusion of Ansaldo Breda.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #371
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Is this one allready back in Denmark ?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #372
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Work progresses on the approaches to Copenhagen C for the new high speed tracks from (Vigerslev) Køge - Ringsted and the diverted inbound line from the airport and Sweden (Flyunder)

In the sidings on the right, one of the 6 elderly EA locomotive appears to be approaching a double decker set, maybe for a test run? It has been decided that these locomotives will be refurbished and used with the double deckers on region services out of Copenhagen releasing IC3 sets for use on busy intercity routes such as Copenhagen - Aarhus.


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No 3737. The Libyan set belongs to the very earliest build and will almost have to be rebuilt before being accepted by DSB.
I don´t think DSB ever expects to see this set in action in Denmark.

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They should convert the remaining IC4 orders from AnsaldoBreda into V250 orders if they plan on electrification...
Hmmmm!


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Never give up, what exactly did you mean by writing "high speed tracks"? Is the railway infrastructure being upgraded to a HSR standard in Denmark?
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As the article you quoted says, after a couple years' delay they have been commissioned and will enter service next September
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Old July 10th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #376
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I guess, these videos fit in this thread, too. The one can see a journey with the regional Öresundtåg from Malmö (Sweden) to Helsingør (Denmark) filmed from the driver's persepctive:





It is worth mentioning that the trains travel at the speed of 200 km/h in Sweden, pass the Öresund bridge at 160 km/h and travel in Denmark at 180 km/h.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:31 PM   #378
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Yes, unfortunately. First they could not run then the could not couple and now they can not brake!

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Maybe we can get some donkeys to pull them for us.
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Now the line between Vigerslev Fjern and København H (central station) is ready for regular service, The newspaper Berlingske Tidende was on a testrun.

Note that they run on the wrong side all the way in.

http://www.b.dk/nationalt/snigpremie...til-koebenhavn
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The railway bridge between Jutland and Denmarks northern tip Vendsyssel has been closed since spring after a containership rammed into it.

But it should have been finished by now but a mistake by the polish company making the new bridge deck means that Vendsyssel would have been without trains until february.

But luckily there is a old train ferry transporting lorries between Gothenburg in Sweden and Frederikshavn and so they decided to sail the trains back to Vendsyssel (the same way they got them out)






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