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Old June 29th, 2013, 12:10 PM   #461
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Yes, Anders, I read Danish - and I have followed the debate in the Danish engineering press. What bugs me is that the Dutch and the Belgians have apparently made a "clean cut": "we won't use that train - period!" In Denmark there's always a revised delivery plan, and another, and another.... Why doesn't someone have the balls to say "STOP!"???
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Old June 29th, 2013, 12:34 PM   #462
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I can give you 4 billion good reasons
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Old June 29th, 2013, 04:26 PM   #463
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I can give you 4 billion good reasons
In the private sector this happens a lot. When, for example, Daimler disengaged from their ill-fated venture with Chrysler they had to book losses that were a heck of a lot bigger than 4 bn Dkr. But... It didn't work properly, so they wrote off a few billions (euros!) and turned the page.
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Old June 29th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #464
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According to ing.dk on June 13th, only 19 of the 73 delivered IC4 trains can be used in service. The rest is out of service, often waiting for the delivery of spare parts through AnsaldoBreda.

DSB is attempting to directly procure the spare parts from AnsaldoBreda's suppliers...
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Old July 4th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #465
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Hello. I was in Odense and saw the great railway Museum ! If you pass by Odense you have to see it !

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Also Question: Does someone know anything about the railway to Assens, Fyn. I was recently there and the tracks to the station are removed. Is the line still in use for freight trains ?
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Old July 4th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #466
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Also Question: Does someone know anything about the railway to Assens, Fyn. I was recently there and the tracks to the station are removed. Is the line still in use for freight trains ?
No, according to this site, the tracks were abandoned in 1993.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 12:12 AM   #468
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Nærumbanen is a nice little railroad.


The number of double tracked rail lines in Denmark has been raised by 7,5 kilometres as the first leg of the Lejre Vipperød project (Lejre to Hvalsø) is finished.
This railway is part of the Nordvestbanen between Roskilde where it branch of the mainline and to Kalundborg on the west coast of Sjælland.

The top speed is raised to 160 Km/H (from 120 Km/H) and Lejre and Hvalsø stations has been totally rebuild with passenger tunnels instead of level crossings.

The Nordvestbanen will be closed for the third and last time next summer when the last part from Hvalsø to Vipperød is constructed.
This project also includes the renovation of the stations in Tølløse and Vipperød so the level crossings will disappear.

When all of this is done in the start of 2015 (perhaps by the timetable change in december 2014) there will be double track all the way from Roskilde to Holbæk and the top speed will be 160 Km/H.


Currently only Roskilde-Lejre and Vipperød-Holbæk is double tracked.
Holbæk to Kalundborg will still be single tracked in the foreseeable future, but there is plans to use 86 million DKK to upgrade the line from 120 Km/H to 160 Km/H.

When the new signaling programme is done in 2020 then the plan is to also electrify this line all the way to Kalundborg in a plan to unify all lines on Sjælland so only electric powered trains will be used. (except local trains that does not run on the main lines)

http://www.bane.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=19162


While this project is in full swing another one is starting up.

5 companies has been prequalified to bid on the construction jobs that are starting this spring on the line between Vamdrup and Vojens, this is the only part with single track on the mainline between Aalborg and Padborg.


The project will change this line from single track to double track and the top speed will be raised to 160 Km/H


http://www.bane.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=19146
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 12:35 AM   #469
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5 companies has been prequalified to bid on the construction jobs that are starting this spring on the line between Vamdrup and Vojens, this is the only part with single track on the mainline between Aalborg and Padborg.
You forgot there are also single track between Tinglev and Padborg
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 01:16 AM   #470
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Ups that is off course correct.

But why is it not included in the plan, I know its a small part of the line (only around 15 kilometres) and its located after the branch line to Sønderborg but it must the easier to make the train schedules with a double track in use.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 09:36 AM   #471
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You know, it is quite similar to motorway projects: when you remove one bottleneck, another shows up...
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 09:55 AM   #472
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Haha so eventually they have to build this one unless it comes obsolete after the Fehmarn tunnel is build.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:52 PM   #473
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I have always found strange having built two big bridge-tunnel complexes leaving a single track on a flat and empty terrain.

I suppose that's one reason because the Sassnitz (D)-Trelleborg (S) train ferry still operates (another reason might be congestion around Copenhagen? solvable only by the HH tunnel).
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 12:25 AM   #474
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Maybe all the Danes have moved to Copenhagen so there is no need for trains on the peninsula anymore?
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 05:35 PM   #475
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Any recent updates on the IC4 project?
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Old September 17th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #476
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DSB has accepted the deliverence of all the IC4 trains besides the one that Gadaffi got.


DSB is now rebuilding the trains at the bombardier workshop in Randers and their onw workshop in Aarhus.

The number of kilometres the trains run between breakdowns is now around 5.000 kilometres.

They have started to run a few departures with 2 trains coupled together.


So small progresses
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #477
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The plan to electrify all mainlines and reduce travel times between the main danish cities called timeplanen (the Hour Plan) has come a step closer as the government has made a agreement to finance the 28,5 billion DKK plan


The article is only in danish but the main subjects of the plan has been presented in this thread.

But the main subjects are as followed

Electrify all mainlines before 2025
Travel time from Copenhagen to Odense in 1 hour, to Aarhus and Esbjerg in 2 hours and Aalborg in 3 Hours.


New high speed line (250 km/h) between Copenhagen and Ringsted is already under construction but is the first leg in Timeplanen.

Upgrade between Ringsted and Odense to 200 km/h.

New high Speed line (250 km/h) between Odense an Middelfart on Vestfyen

New bridge over Vejlefjord to bypass the city of Vejle

New high speed line between Hovedgård and Aarhus in east Jylland.

The line between Aarhus and Hobro is either reconstructed to aprox 200 km/h or a new mainline along the E45 motorway is build (probably 250 km/h)

Hobro to Aalborg is upgraded to 200 km/h

Aalborg to Frederikshavn is most likely upgraded to 160 km/h from 120 km/h.

The leg from Kolding west of Middelfart to the german border is currently being upgraded to double track and 160 km/h, it is already under wire.

The leg from Kolding to Esbjerg is currently being electrified and is being build so the train can go 200 km/h or more in the future.


The branch lines from Roskilde west of Copenhagen to Kalundborg and from Køge Nord (on the new high speed line from Copenhagen) to Næstved (on the Fehmarn line) is most likely also being upgraded to 160 km/h and gets electricification.

Also the branch line from Vejle to Struer is being upgraded with electricification and most likely 160 km/h.



http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2013/09/17/175342.htm

http://www.trm.dk/da/publikationer/2...dens+jernbane/




The 200 km/h line from Ringsted to the Fehmarn Tunnel is not part of this project and are already underway.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #478
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This thread started six years ago with a claim of Danish railways being the worst in Western Europe.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 01:13 AM   #479
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But to be fair the railways in Denmark was is a bad shape around that time, egen it got warm (as it usually does in the summer) the train speed was reduced, resulting in many many delays.

Most railway lines has now been renovated and some is even getting double tracked, today only the main line and Copenhagen S train and metro is doubled tracked.

That is the fehmarn line that today are singled tracked from Vordingborg to the tunnel.
Roskilde to Holbæk
Vamdrup to Vojens.


On top of that we got (and still has) problems with IC4 and on Zealand some of the regional trains to Copenhagen was using old carriages from the 80'ties or even 70'ties.

They are now replaced with modern bilevel carriages and some of the diesel powered locomotives will replaced with electric locomotives in 2015.

One good thing that has come out of the IC4 scandal is that the government has been pushed towards this new train project.
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Some of the projects in Timeplanen has now been revealed.


All railwaylines are build to 250 km/h, but are prepared to operate at 300 km/h



A 35 kilometre railwayline on western Fyen costing 4,9 billion DKK






A bridge over Vejle Fjord including connecting railwaylines costing 4,3 billion DKK









A 23 kilometre railwayline from Hovedgård to Aarhus costing 3,3 billion DKK








A further 1 billion DKK will be used to upgrade the lines between Fredericia and Vejle Fjord and Vejle Fjord to Hovedgård to 200 km/h.
This is the yellow lines on the Vejle Fjord map.


http://ing.dk/artikel/saadan-kommer-...l-se-ud-161859
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