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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:04 PM   #541
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Here come some pictures i posted in the danish subforum of the new high speed line between Copenhagen and Ringsted


The point where the new high speed line passes Brøndbyøstervej, there is really nothing to see but i took the picturres anyway so the trip wasn´t spoiled









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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:06 PM   #542
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Now we are at the area between Avedøre Havnevej and Allingvej, the site is more progressed here.










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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:07 PM   #543
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Finally we are at Søndre Ringvej.























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Old April 2nd, 2014, 10:35 PM   #544
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Five consortia prequalify for Danish electrification programme
02 Apr 2014

DENMARK: Infrastructure manager Banedanmark has shortlisted five of the eight consortia which expressed interest in the contract for the first phase of a national electrification programme which will see all Denmark’s main routes wired at 25 kV 50Hz by 2026.

The shortlisted candidates are:
  • Aarsleff/Siemens;
  • ASB Consortium;
  • Strukton/Balfour Beatty;
  • EIS joint venture;
  • Obrascon Huarte Lain/TSO
'We are very pleased that we have five strong bidders who all have recent references from similar projects, delivering on time and budget’, said Banedanmark Programme Manager, Søren Thorpstrup Laursen on April 1.

The winning bidder is to be selected in late spring 2015. The first route to be electrified would be the 57 km Esbjerg – Lunderskov line, followed by Køge Nord – Næstved, Ringsted – Næstved – Rødby (for the Fehmarn Belt tunnel) and the new København – Ringsted fast line, a total of around 550 track-km.

In January the government and opposition parties finalised the DKr28·5bn Togfonden DK investment strategy which is to be funded by taxes on North Sea hydrocarbons extraction. This has allocated DKr8·7bn to electrification of the Fredericia – Aalborg, Aalborg – Frederikshavn, Vejle – Struer and Roskilde – Kalundborg routes.
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Old May 14th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #545
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Deal reached on Billund Airport rail link
Wednesday, May 14, 2014

DENMARK's Ministry of Transport confirmed on May 13 that the government has reached an agreement with opposition parties to construct a new rail link to Billund Airport in Jutland.

The project involves building a 19km single-track branch off the existing Velje – Herning line near Jelling with two new stations serving the Legoland theme park and the airport. The maximum speed on the branch will be 120km/h, with a projected journey time of 29 minutes between the airport and Velje.

Under the agreement, DKr 734m ($US 135m) will be allocated to the construction of the railway, and the government will provide a further DKr 16m to complete environmental impact studies. The line is expected to open in 2020.

The project will be funded through Togfonden DK, a DKr 28.5bn fund approved by the government last year, which will use tax revenues from North Sea oil to fund investment in rail infrastructure.

Billund is currently the busiest airport in Denmark without a rail link
Good news for the city which host Legoland!
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Old May 31st, 2014, 10:03 PM   #546
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Copied from the Danish forum.
The short story is that the government will spend 3.3 billion DKK on the railroads now. The plan is to speed up a number of projects, to avoid too many track closures.
It is probably also a good plan when they are building new signals, ​​speed upgrades, and electrification, on most of the lines over the next 10 years.

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Here are the projects in the togfonden.dk that has been moved forward.

Speed ​​Upgrade and preparation for electrification of Langå-Aalborg will be brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2018-2019.

Speed ​​Upgrade Køge Nord-Næstved being brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2015-2016. (together with electrification)

Working with crossings etc. on regional raillines in preparation for the regional speed upgrades will be brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2016-20.

Capacity expansion, etc. of Aarhus H being brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2016-18.

Earlier startup speed upgrade and electrification between Fredericia and Langå which have been brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2020.

The new railway on Funen will be brought forward from 2020-2024 to 2018-23, which means that a speedy establishment timetable between Odense Esbjerg is possible.




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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:27 PM   #547
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This week there is some unusual activity around Køge station because the railwayline between Ringsted and Næstved is closed.

So all Eurocity, ICE and Regional (commuter) trains was directed through Køge instead.


First not that unusual, a Coradia LINT from Regionstog to either Rådvig or Fakse Ladeplads




Also not unusual a 4th generation S-train, but something is lurkin.






Yes its a Litra ME locomotive with 5 doubledecker wagons arriving from Nykøbing Falster.






The Lille Syd line is single tracked so the train from Copenhagen arrives at the same time.





20 minutes later it all went bunkers with a EC train (IC3) arriving from Hamburg and ICE TD going to Hamburg.








Finally a head to head race with ICE TD and Coradia LINT




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Old June 4th, 2014, 07:28 PM   #548
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Litra MG aka IC4 has been doing some testruns on Gedserbanen on Falster.


I believe that its the first time that we have seen 4 trainsets (the maximum) coupled together.


http://www.jernbanen.dk/forum/index....hread&id=82200
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Old June 7th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #549
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I'm happy that I'm not travelling by train through Denmark this year. There seems to be maintenance work going on south of Nyköbing F so the ICE from Copenhagen will not go further than that. Replacement buses run between Nykøbing F and Vordingborg.

This is bad news for those who already bought tickets for connecting trains in Hamburg.
I have travelled with train from Sweden to Italy many times, but it seems more and more impossible to find suitable connections for each year and the stretch Copenhagen-Hamburg is an unreliable bottleneck on this route.
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Old June 7th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #550
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There seems to be maintenance work going on south of Nyköbing F so the ICE from Copenhagen will not go further than that. Replacement buses run between Nykøbing F and Vordingborg.
Yes and No. The train service stops in Vordingborg, but that's not due to track maintenance work in the traditional sense of the word. It's all about the dilapidated Storestroemsbro bridge (just south of Vordingborg). It's closed for rail traffic and will remain so for quite some time.

As a Dane I would agree that this is very embarassing: some decades ago the Danish government (social democrat, at the time) was told that major repairs of the bridge was called for. They could either bite the bullet, or do some minor repairs which would push the day of reckoning 10 years into the future. We all know politicians. Of course they chose the latter. Only problem: 10 years later the government than replaced them did..... nothing! They had come into office (it was the so-called Firkloever centre-right government) promising to cut public spending, and cut they did. The previous report had not been sent to them, so they pretended not to know that the bridge was once more in a serious state.

We now pay the price for this blatant buck-passing.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 12:33 PM   #551
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What what are you guys talking about. ?


Sydbanen is closed for 1 week beteween the 29th of May and 9th of June because they build a ringroad north of Næstved so it has nothing to do with the railroad per se.

This week was choosen because there is 3 public holidays in this timeframe and only 4 normal days, well 3 if you only count Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Thursday is a public holiday (Grundlovsdag) so many people had taken Friday off aswell.

Masnedsundbroen (not Storestrømsbroen) is closed for 1 weekend (next week) because it was rammed by a ship earlier this year and need some smaller repairs.

Storstrømsbroen is fully operational



But I must say that I don´t understand this critizism because ist a major task to reconstruct Sydbanen.


The current stage of the railwayline is this.


Double track and 160 km/h between Ringsted and Vordingborg
Single track and aprox 100 km/h overMasnedsundbroen and Storstrømsbroen bridges
Single track and 120 km/h between Orehoved and Rødby Færge.


When they are done its 200 km/h and double track all the way and electrification.


In order to do this they have to replace somewhere around 100 and 150 road bridges and a totally new bridge over Storstrømmen and the bridges over Masnedsund and Guldborgsund straits will be rebuild and expanded.

They also need to relocate the railwayline north of Glumsø

So it would be strange if it did not affect the daily running of the railwayline.


But for now the construction has only taken place in the late evenings, during the nights and in some weekend.




The only track closure that has something to do with the railway in June are some late evening/nigh closure between the 10th to 13th of June when they will demolish "some" roadbridges between Orehoved and Nykøbing F.

So its unfair to say the track is closed the whole year.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #552
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I went by train from Hamburg to Copenhagen this end of May. This was before any closures to the railway line.


It'll be marvelous to go there on once the new, electrified rail line between Rødby and Ringsted/København is finished. Though the trains are nice and comfortable, at least the German Diesel-ICE, it really feels like it takes an eternity to go there given the distance (~2h for ~160 km Rødby-Kbh. If driving by car you've got a motorway instead). Plus at the railway stations in Rødby and Puttgarden it feels like you've entered a forgotten civilization with the deserted, overgrown freight areas next to your track.


So yeah, to conclude I don't mind the closures at all
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Old June 9th, 2014, 01:13 AM   #553
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The travel time between Copenhagen and Nykøbing F will be under 1 hour, today its 1:26 with the quick ICE train that has fewer stops.

Its not only the upgraded line that makes this possible, also the new high speed line between Copenhagen and Ringsted cuts the travel time with around 10 minutes compared with todays traveltime.
This line is build for 250 km/h.


From Nykøbing F to Rødby Færge it takes 23 minutes with todays infrastructure.

I´m guessing that it will be around 15 minutes once they are done but I´m not sure about this.
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The travel time between Copenhagen and Nykøbing F will be under 1 hour, today its 1:26 with the quick ICE train that has fewer stops.
..And then there's also that single track south of Vordingborg which makes for some longer travel than necessary. As it is now when coming from Hamburg, you wait in Nykøbing for around 10 mins before the train rolls again because of the waiting for trains coming from the other direction. Given that Nykøbing has a diminutive importance for this line (and it has), that's way too much time spent on a small station like this. I wonder how they did solve this in those days when Sydbanen was heavily used by freight traffic as well - Not only to and from Rødby but to and from Gedser south of Nykøbing as well...


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Its not only the upgraded line that makes this possible, also the new high speed line between Copenhagen and Ringsted cuts the travel time with around 10 minutes compared with todays traveltime.
This line is build for 250 km/h.
This is true, but I don't include it for the reason it was to be built even if the Fehmarn/Femern wouldn't. Though it is of course a good thing that it'll make the fastest train journey Hamburg-Copenhagen to be around 4h15min instead of 4h30min in a few years.


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From Nykøbing F to Rødby Færge it takes 23 minutes with todays infrastructure.

I´m guessing that it will be around 15 minutes once they are done but I´m not sure about this.
That stretch is 37 km, with a speed of 250 km/h as well as (de-)acceleration, travel time should be just around 10 mins (1 min = 4.167 km traveled at a speed of 250 km/h). But then, today you must stop at Rødby not so much because of the border as much as for the ferry boarding and unloading trains. With that reason gone, I suppose most trains will simply pass through into the tunnel.
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That stretch is 37 km, with a speed of 250 km/h as well as (de-)acceleration, travel time should be just around 10 mins (1 min = 4.167 km traveled at a speed of 250 km/h). But then, today you must stop at Rødby not so much because of the border as much as for the ferry boarding and unloading trains. With that reason gone, I suppose most trains will simply pass through into the tunnel.
That stretch will be upgraded to 200 km/h, not 250 km/h, won't it?
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Yes its 200 km/h.


Right now the train also use alot of time to stop at Rødby Færge station and board the ferry.


In the current plan there are no stations between Nykøbing F and the first in Germany (Grossenbrode if they aren´t building a station near Burg on Fehmarn) but the local politicians are lobbying for a socalled Lolland Syd station instead of Rødby Færge.

The first station that the EC/ICE stops at besides the ferry port in Puttgarden is Oldenburg, so the potential non stop journey is all the way from Nykøbing F to Oldenburg.


Oldenburg to Puttgarden is around 35 kilometers
The tunnel is 18 kilometers
Rødby Færge to Nykøbing F is 37 kilometers

I think that the german stretch will only be 160 km/h but the tunnel and danish part of the line will be 200 km/h


So potentially this trip will take around 35-40 minutes, today it takes 1 hour and 53 minutes.
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Old June 24th, 2014, 11:51 AM   #557
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From Global Rail News:

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Study to decide whether Denmark sticks by the IC4
23 JUN, 2014


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DSB has commissioned a new study to find out if it is financially feasible to invest more money into its ill-fated IC4/2 train fleet.

Originally due to be delivered from 2003, completion of the order was delayed by eight years, with the last of the 82 trainsets ordered only arriving in Denmark in October last year.

Although many of the IC4 sets are now in operation, a question mark still hangs over the reliability of AnsaldoBreda’s rolling stock following a serious of technical faults and failures.

Following an earlier study by DB Systemtechnik, which found that several key components were not up to high enough standard, DSB has ordered a further investigation.

Togfonden – a new rail infrastructure funding model based on the taxation of North Sea oil extraction - will generate €3.82 billion over the next 10 years to fund a programme works, including a substantial electrification programme.

DSB needs to weigh up whether its worth spending more money bringing the diesel IC4/2 stock up to a satisfactory level of operational reliability or whether focus should turn to its growing electric train fleet
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Hopefully they can fix the issues with the IC4 fleet and it can perform good service for the next 25 years.
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Doubtful as it is an AnsaldoBreda product.
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If most IC lines are to be electrified within the next 10 years, the IC4/IC2 only have to work until then, aren't they?
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