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Old February 23rd, 2008, 04:04 AM   #81
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I like the contemporary design of the houses, unlike most modern suburban enclaves that have designs that have not changed for 30 years or the ones that reuse certain archetypes like the Mediterranean Style, etc.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 04:29 AM   #82
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kaya nga. what i was trying to say, it's a very good buy. for P20 million, you can get a huge house in a very good neighborhood. your 20 million will bloat to 150 million in no time pag naging "new forbes park" nga ang abrio.
That would be really awesome! 5x your investment.

I can't imagine P100M for a condo unit (i.e i can't visualize P100M - too many zeros ).
That's almost or more than some homes in Dasma or Forbes which I still consider as "The High-End" village in Manila...

When these homes could be sold at P150M maybe the going rate for 1 Bedroom units will be sold around P10-15M...
When that time comes I hope people could still afford basic homes or condo units...
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 04:34 AM   #83
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This would be nice design for a change.
I think there are alot of Mediterranean Style concept condos or villages.

If they are targeting young people this would be a very nice fit for them.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #84
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as of today they are constructing the grand nuvali showroom and BPO buildings as well as the man-made lake.

..no pictures sorry..

today the ave price per sqm for Treveia lots is around PHP 9,000-11,000. I will not doubt it if these figures will climb the 50,000 php/sqm in 10-15 years.

the south will be one of the best investment areas to date.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #85
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as of today they are constructing the grand nuvali showroom and BPO buildings as well as the man-made lake.

..no pictures sorry..

today the ave price per sqm for Treveia lots is around PHP 9,000-11,000. I will not doubt it if these figures will climb the 50,000 php/sqm in 10-15 years.

the south will be one of the best investment areas to date.
Thanks for sharing all the good news on that part of Laguna. Nuvali's progress, along with other developments surrounding Calamba, will undoubtedly complement the progress and increase the property value at Ayala Greenfield Estates. My question to you @leechtat.. What's your personal assessment of AGE? It will be our primary residence. Thks. in advance for your unbiased response. Regards and best wishes!

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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:17 AM   #86
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No question, Nuvali is an amazing project! With the Avida, Treveia, and Abrio concept, it accommodates people from all walks of life.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 11:52 AM   #87
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Thanks for sharing all the good news on that part of Laguna. Nuvali's progress, along with other developments surrounding Calamba, will undoubtedly complement the progress and increase the property value at Ayala Greenfield Estates. My question to you @leechtat.. What's your personal assessment of AGE? It will be our primary residence. Thks. in advance for your unbiased response. Regards and best wishes!
no doubt AGE is the place to retire. with its elevation, you will be able to see the future nuvali skyline and possibly the eton city skyline as well.

AGE will be like the antipolo area but closer to the south's major CBD. nuvali's abrio, treveia, avida settings or eton city's SLV (whoever wins the title of makati of the south) will be like the new forbes park, urdaneta, san lorenzo, bel-air villages. so AGE would be like the suburbs.

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No question, Nuvali is an amazing project! With the Avida, Treveia, and Abrio concept, it accommodates people from all walks of life.
correct! actually, this is the first time that they have placed all their products in one area... ALP, CII, AVIDA.. so anyone can actually buy a property in Nuvali.. i love avida settings too, since it has backyard pocket parks.


the south may surprise us if corporate offices relocate to these modern cities. i hope there will be more investments these coming years since we are expecting major CBD's in the country to sprout.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 04:51 PM   #88
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onting pr.. from my blog.. hehe..

As we all know, investments are the way to go to expand our portfolio. So, business-minded people often look for investments that will garner a high return.

Such is why people often ask me as to the reason i sell them properties that are too far from the Mega Metro Manila Area, which upon ownership, could possibly be one of their non-performing asset or one of their best investment as of yet.

I have always advised them the latter of the two choices. But Why? Now, let me show you.

The South Region of Metro Manila will be big, particularly the Laguna area, spanning from Santa Rosa to Canlubang, Calamba. Property Developers who is big in the business are already there and taking their chance to convert this area into another Central Business District but Greener.

To further my point, below is a map of the whole area.



From this map, we may be able to take notice that Laguna has major industrial parks like the Laguna Techno Park in Santa Rosa and the Silangan Industrial Park. This shows that technical employment can be found within the Laguna area.

We may also be able to see that the whole area is surrounded by premier educational institutions such as Xavier, St. Scholastica, Don Bosco, UST, Perpetual Colleges, Ateneo Grad School and De La Salle University. No doubt it would be easy to raise a family in the south, knowing that your children will get proper education.

For the commercial district, the south will house one of the biggest BPO centers in the country. One major BPO area will be inside Nuvali and is currently under construction along with the man-made lake inside this city. Now, upon traversing Santa Rosa-Tagaytay road, you may notice that the Infonxx Building is already operational.

Malls, markets and other commercial establishments are already doing well in the south. As evident by the success of the commercial strip - Paseo de Santa Rosa. And many others will soon to open inside the biggest economic zone of the area, which is Nuvali.

Nuvali is the Ayala Canlubang Estate that will revolutionize modern living. This is the biggest project of Ayala Land Inc., with an area of more than 1600 Hectares, that promises to turn Nuvali into the next Makati of the South, but again, Greener! The whole area incorporates modern and eco-friendly design and, what i like most about this development, it hopes to connect the whole city to the internet via Wimax.

Look briefly at the Nuvali Map Below.



Little did you know that within this future mega city there can be found residential enclaves, one of which is Treveia. (encircled above, larger version below)



Treveia will be like one of the villages surrounding Makati like Forbes Park or Dasmariñas Village, but then again, definitely way better.

Though we all know the prestige and glamor associated when you own a home in the communities above, little that we know that these homes were bought less than a hundred peso per square meter. See the Colliers study below.



Based on this study, the villages surrounding Makati appreciated much in value throughout the years as the city becomes one of the most celebrated financial districts in the country.

Following this logic, must it mean that Treveia and other residential communities within the Nuvali area will appreciate in price as seen in villages surrounding Makati?

The answer is absolutely yes. Since Ayala Land Inc. made Makati, they can certainly make Nuvali into another central business district! This will make the residential communities such as Treveia appreciate it's land value.

In a business standpoint, the price per square meter as of the 1st quarter of 2008 is PHP 9,000 - PHP 11,000. This entails that this is the best time to buy land in the Nuvali area since the price per square meter is actually lower than its future potential. So Invest now or be sorry later.

Now, if you are not yet convinced in the South's potential especially in Treveia in Nuvali, then i am at a loss for you.

I guess the only trouble is one's financial capability and how they can manage to own land in the area. But do not fret, that is where i come in. So, feel free to ask my help.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #89
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I curious to see how Nuvali and Eton City overlays in one map...

How close will the 2 projects get to each other?
Are they boardering each other?

I'm looking at the UST marker on both maps, looks like they will be side by side...
So it might be like Filiinvest and Ayala in Alabang but in a much bigger scale?

Then, add the exsisting Santa Rosa, Laguna developments like South Forbes, Georgia Club...

So hard to choose if you are an investor...

Now both are competing against each other but I think they will eventually complement each other...
and eventually both project will just mix together...
Maybe the combination of the 2 projects will become the Makati of the South.

WOW Factor talaga!

If that ever happens I think the big winner will be tagaytay.
Just imagine a climate like tagaytay 30 mins of a big city in Santa Rosa.




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Old March 12th, 2008, 01:35 PM   #90
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I agree. Tagaytay will be the winner in all of these.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 04:26 PM   #91
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yes, i must agree as well.

i failed to point out the benefits for tagaytay in my previous post. the south will definitely boom with tagaytay's proximity as one of these future cities' major advantages.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #92
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I curious to see how Nuvali and Eton City overlays in one map...

How close will the 2 projects get to each other?
Are they boardering each other?

So hard to choose if you are an investor...
nuvali and eton city is in fact so close.

cronwasia properties are the cheaper alternative, there are some other small-scale property development in the whole stretch of tagaytay-santa rosa road.

but if you would like to be in the center of the city, pick nuvali properties or eton's slv. i bet it would appreciate more in value. comparable to forbes park and the other surrounding villages in makati.

also, take note that both developers are zoning for top commercial and corporate offices. so we may see two business districts with the same proximity as that of makati and bgc.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 07:23 AM   #93
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So exciting - So pumped just thinking about it...

I wish have some money to invest in this area or maybe the dollar strengthens up...
That would be really tough choice to pick between Santa Rosa area or Tagaytay...
Then I have to decide if I want a developed lot or raw lot...

We live in BF Homes paranaque - that's why I have am bias to the south...

I can only imagine "Makati of the South" in Santa Rosa then you are so close to tagaytay (30 mins) and Calatagan Batangas (1.5 hrs)
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And this will all be seen from Ayala Greenfield Estates (AGE). I love it! Sayang, hindi na puedeng mag-invest sa properties dahil maxed out; maganda sana ito. We'll see once we're retired. Regards!
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Wonder how this view will look like after Nuvali and Eton City gets developed...
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You will indeed have a great skyline 5-10 years from now!! kudos to those who bought in the Laguna craze early!! congratulations...

the urban development here will be faster than Makati!!

Thanks sinjin for the nice renders from ALi annual... are your family, btw, shareholders?
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Look briefly at the Nuvali Map Below.




Does anyone knows the color coding on top of the Treveia Plan? Thanks for your posts @leechtat.
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Interesting. Although, im not a fan of sprawl (especially low density sprawl), I'm glad Nuvali is incorporating some sustainability design components. Also, its good that both Nuvali and Eton City are mixed use, reducing the need for long commutes to MM. Any word if Southrail will be incorporated to these projects? It is very important to have rail connection to MM if they want to be successful, otherwise traffic on SLEX would kill time and productivity. Southrail could act like a commuter rail system similar to those in London, NYC, Chicago, etc.

I dont like Abrio though. It seems so exclusive and doesnt integrate the larger community (see this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=564612 for a better, inclusionary urban design). The huge lot sizes and roads are imo, a waste of space that could otherwise be used for agriculture or parkland. I think its a step backwards in urban planning, as it is patterned after 1950s-1960s sprawl communities that are dependent on cars and fossil fuels.
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