New shops in the city centre

[jde91]

Im surprised that Sheffield (centre) has a higher revenue than the Trafford Centre

[Fozberg]

Originally Posted by larven

We need much more city centre housing, not less! There's stacks of room in and on the fringes of the centre to create high density housing (not apartments) that is suitable for families and all age groups. We need better designed housing that doesn't conform to what we've come to expect over the last 10 years.

That is a great ideaology but is not and will probably never be a reality. Families do not want to live in the city centre, pollution, traffic, noise, crime, litter, etc etc the perception (which is what needs to be change) is that it is no a place for a family to live. Suburbai, no matter how average has its place. I dont think id want to bring up my family, or indeed spend the rest of my life in the city centre, would you?

Originally Posted by larven

Get more people living in the centre, more attractions, more museums, galleries, better restaurants and bars, schools, community centres, continue the excellent work already done in terms of the public realm...make Sheffield centre an attractive place to live and work etc.

I agree, i think people should live where they work in a general move towards more sustainabilty but i think eco towns are probably more suited to that. Its chicken and egg isnt it, people wont come without the facilities, and the facilities dont exist without the people.

The reasons some people love to live in the city centre is the exact reason others will hate it.

[larven]

Originally Posted by Fozberg

That is a great ideaology but is not and will probably never be a reality. Families do not want to live in the city centre, pollution, traffic, noise, crime, litter, etc etc the perception (which is what needs to be change) is that it is no a place for a family to live. Suburbai, no matter how average has its place. I dont think id want to bring up my family, or indeed spend the rest of my life in the city centre, would you?

The city centre population has risen from 2000 to 10000 in ten years. Tell me if you think the centre was better 10 years ago than it is now?

Of course a lot of that increase is due to students and young professionals and most of that hosuing stock is apartments. However future phases of housing in the centre may not be bang in the middle but surrounding it in areas like Kelham Island and Neepsend. Some of this will be apartments but a lot of it will be high density housing suitable for different types of households, look at the townhouses proposed as part of Kelham Riverside Phase 2 for example. With riverside locations, an investment in green spaces, the continuing regeneration of the city centre and associated amenities there's no reason why the inner city areas can't become home to families again, like they used to be in the past.

Originally Posted by Fozberg

I agree, i think people should live where they work in a general move towards more sustainabilty but i think eco towns are probably more suited to that. Its chicken and egg isnt it, people wont come without the facilities, and the facilities dont exist without the people.

The reasons some people love to live in the city centre is the exact reason others will hate it.

How is building a totally new settlement sustinable? Eco-town's are flawed from first principles and have thankfully been dropped.

[Fozberg]

Originally Posted by larven

There's no reason why the inner city areas can't become home to families again, like they used to be in the past.

People just dont aspire to leave in the city centre, thats the problem. I agree that housing stock and location, can all be improved and diversified to appeal to familes and a mix of residences but until people see it as a safe/ clean / quiet place to bring up children/ retire it will never been seen as a final destination. Then there needs to be a critical mass to improve schools, facilities etc so people want to stay.

Families never really wanted to live in the city centre, they needed to live close to work and there was just little affordable alternative. I agree that could be the case again, with rising fuel prices and grid locked roads but it will only work then, as a stick, not a carrot.

Originally Posted by larven

How is building a totally new settlement sustinable? Eco-town's are flawed from first principles and have thankfully been dropped.

Agreed again but is any development truely sustainable?. A totally new sustainable development will be more sustainable than a rehashed city centre, not completely sustainable, more sustainable, and also has the added bonus that people would actually want to live there, now.

[larven]

Well clearly they do aspire as the 500% increase in people living in the centre in the past 10 years shows don't you think? Also what you want and can afford can be two completely different things, especially if you don't have unlimited funds to satisfy the former.

Making the city centre more 'liveable' is an ongoing process but the progress that has been made, even in the last 10 years has been astonishing. This needs to continue so we have 20, 30, even 50,000 people living in or within walking distance of the centre. A regenerated city centre can be an attractive place that inspires people to want to live there.

It's also much more sustainable to work with older buildings rather than knock them down, put newer buildings in their place or even worse build newer buildings and have to put in all the services, infrastructure, utilities etc to support them not to mention increased journey times to existing centres, impact on undeveloped land, carbon footprints etc.

[Fozberg]

Originally Posted by larven

Well clearly they do aspire as the 500% increase in people living in the centre in the past 10 years shows don't you think?

Sorry yes i meant families and older people, it is an aspiration for young professionals and students but not many others.

I agree that its getting better and improving, and the city centre now is much better than it was but in all this time i still think people attitudes towards living in it havnet changed. Whenever i mentioned i lived in the city centre peoples comments were always negative, isnt it noisy, isnt it hard to park, etc etc, it those attitudes which need to change.

As for sustainability it depends if the old building needs work and the floors/ rooms re-jigging that would take up more effort than a prefabricated pod. Its hard to retrofit move effcient systems into a building as in many cases its the overall design which aids cooling, heat loss prevention etc.

[flange]

John Lewis are opening London 2012 shops inside all their Department Stores and At Homes stores in the UK now.

@johnlewisretail

We’re excited to announce we’ll now have official @London2012 shops in all our full line dept stores & dedicated space in our at home shops!

The Sheffield London 2012 shop opens on Saturday 14th April on the Second Floor at John Lewis. http://www.johnlewis.com/Shops/DSEve...?Type=DSS&Id=7

[Nathowl]

Work has started on the new Sainsburys Local outside the Sheffield Uni tram stop.

[Crookes]

Originally Posted by Nathowl

Work has started on the new Sainsburys Local outside the Sheffield Uni tram stop.

Opening in June, ready for the Students to all go home - seems a strange time to be opening a University-area shop (since Sainsburys will be fitting/ re-fitting dozens of shops in the UK at any time).

Maybe we should have a "shops closed in the city centre" thread? In recent weeks we've seen Gamestation (the Moor), Game (Fargate) and Lloyds Pharmacy (by Castle Market) closed down. Plus with Mothercare announcing that they will close a third of their shops, I expect that one of the two in central Sheffield will close this year.

[Master_P]

Originally Posted by Crookes

Opening in June, ready for the Students to all go home - seems a strange time to be opening a University-area shop (since Sainsburys will be fitting/ re-fitting dozens of shops in the UK at any time).

Maybe we should have a "shops closed in the city centre" thread? In recent weeks we've seen Gamestation (the Moor), Game (Fargate) and Lloyds Pharmacy (by Castle Market) closed down. Plus with Mothercare announcing that they will close a third of their shops, I expect that one of the two in central Sheffield will close this year.

I should imgaine that a shop closing down thread would have much more going on than this one, especially in the city centre

[PaulP]

New mexican eaterie near SHU/Cantor Building...

[Steel City Suburb]

Moving from its current unit?

[Sheffy]

Its the burrito bar has opened up in the old amanda's cafe that burnt down twice.
I'm not sure if the one in town is closing or not.

[flange]

Jacobs will be closing in Sheffield due to administration.

Jacobs shuts seven stores, axes jobs

By Chris Cheesman

Friday, 8 June 2012

Camera chain Jacobs has shut down seven shops, axed around a third of its staff and has received offers from potential buyers, a week after it called in administrators.

The family-run business, which was founded in 1939, has made 46 people redundant out of a total of 154 staff.

Shutting up shop are the stores in Birmingham, Chelsea, Derby, Hull, Kingston-upon-Thames, Liverpool and Sheffield.

The closures represent more than a third of Jacob's estate.

Eddie Kerr, a partner at accountancy firm PKF who is acting as joint administrator, said: 'We have taken the difficult decision to close a number of Jacobs stores and make redundancies across the business.

'These measures are painful for everyone involved but they are essential if we are to have a reasonable prospect of finding a buyer for the business as a going concern, although we recognise there are likely to be more challenges ahead.'

Kerr added: 'We have already had a number of expressions of interest from potential acquirers and are in a position to begin negotiations.'

Among the shops to close is the Jacobs store in Hull, which employs four staff in addition to a regional manager.

Earlier today, employees in Hull were told to collect their belongings.

Jacobs called in administrators amid unremitting 'difficult trading conditions', according to PKF.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...s-seven-stores

[Chti]

Originally Posted by Crookes

Opening in June, ready for the Students to all go home - seems a strange time to be opening a University-area shop (since Sainsburys will be fitting/ re-fitting dozens of shops in the UK at any time).

As part of the £20m revamp of University House/Students Union Building, the union shop will be closing for a year (July '12 to September '13) and decamping into a smaller porta-cabin on the concourse. With that in mind, Sainsbury's stand to make a killing.

[Crookes]

Originally Posted by Chti

As part of the £20m revamp of University House/Students Union Building, the union shop will be closing for a year (July '12 to September '13) and decamping into a smaller porta-cabin on the concourse. With that in mind, Sainsbury's stand to make a killing.

Didn't realise that - I thought hte Union shop had been revamped fairly recently, looked fairly modern in there when I was in a couple of months ago.

In that case, I totally agree about Sainsburys filling their boots!

(to show how minor Sheffield's retail scene appears to be at the moment, I guess I should mention a new MIND charity shop on Devonshire Street (by Starbucks/ One Stop/ Greggs etc, opposite the Forum - hardly earth shattering news, but I will have a mooch around)

[jozblade]

Don't knock charity shops. You can pick up some right finds!

[Crookes]

Originally Posted by jozblade

Don't knock charity shops. You can pick up some right finds!

I'm not (and I miss the old MIND in Broomhill), I'm just saying that it shows how threadbare things are in Sheffield when the only new shop that's opening in the city centre is a charity shop.

[justdamo]

Originally Posted by Crookes

I'm not (and I miss the old MIND in Broomhill), I'm just saying that it shows how threadbare things are in Sheffield when the only new shop that's opening in the city centre is a charity shop.

The demand is there but it's all down to useless letting agents and greedy landlords.

Before finding my current location on Chapel walk I was going to take the unit Mind have now moved into.

I got to the stage of negotiating terms when the agent suddenly (for no reason) stopped responding to my emails/taking my calls.

The unit has sat empty ever since.

[ormey]

not so much it city centre but B&m bargains are opening in two weeks at a unit on Chesterfield road