VALENCIA - Nou Mestalla (73,200)

[Reaper-strain]

Stunning, a beautiful design and excellent work rate on top of that.
Will be incredible when it is done. This stadium will make the Allianz, New Liverpool Stadium and even Wembley look like shit.

Well done to the Valencianos for this amazing project.

[artoor]

Originally Posted by Reaper-strain

This stadium will make the Allianz, New Liverpool Stadium and even Wembley look like shit.

What a lovely expression!
That's why I don't value Spanish or Catalunha football fans very high.
Quick to offend others and feel offended if the home club is a bit down.
Pathetic.

[kennyrouge]

The new liverpool stadium will never be built, not by the yanks anyway.

[Reaper-strain]

Originally Posted by artoor

What a lovely expression!
That's why I don't value Spanish or Catalunha football fans very high.
Quick to offend others and feel offended if the home club is a bit down.
Pathetic.

I am neither, only interested in aesthetics and this stadium is superior in beauty than Wembley the Allianz and the drawings for the new Liverpool stadium. It might be hard for you to accept this coming from someone with no natural bias accept that of aesthetics but at the end of the day, who cares. If you can't accept that basic fact, life becomes very complicated.

Again, Well done to the Valencianos showing us their true style.

[aCidMinD81]

February 15, 2008















Link to download the panorama (5'7 Mb)

[kazetuner]

no puedo esperar a ver como el estadio supera el nivel de la calle...... lastima que despues ya no se vera tanto la construccion del interior.................excepto que algiuen se escabulla o se haga pasar por operario:P todo sea por el bien de este thread

[aCidMinD81]

February 20, 2008

Let's count cranes!















Link to the not scaled panorama (3,62 Mb)

[marrio415]

it will be a very nice stadium when finished,valencia fans i bet you guys can't wait

[aCidMinD81]

Today has been announced that Valencia C.F. will build a 20-storey 5 stars hotel in the same plot, the project is being studied by Mark Fenwick, the architect od the stadium.

Here is a render of the volume of the hotel.



And here, some renders of Mark Fenwick's design for Hercules Stadium in Alicante (it is not Valencia's one although they are quite similar)... with a hotel too.

[bixa louca]

Oh. Oh. You posted something in, gasp, Spanish. Hope your post doesn't disappear!

[lpioe]

I don't like the tower so close to the stadium.

Btw is the Hercules project approved? What's the cap?

[GunnerJacket]

Originally Posted by Reaper-strain

Stunning, a beautiful design and excellent work rate on top of that.
Will be incredible when it is done. This stadium will make the Allianz, New Liverpool Stadium and even Wembley look like shit.

Given the angle you take in your post that follows, I'm curious as to how you're reaching this opinion. What do you find about this design that is so superior to Allianz, etc.? Especially if you're talking about aesthetics then I find it hard for you to call something bad. Either you like it or don't, but you can't measure personal aesthetic appeal as either good or bad, let alone "like shit."

[Genç]

Originally Posted by lpioe

I don't like the tower so close to the stadium.

Same...

[lukus]

Great stadium. From the renders, reminds me a bit of upgraded FNB stadium in South Africa.

[Reaper-strain]

Originally Posted by GunnerJacket

Given the angle you take in your post that follows, I'm curious as to how you're reaching this opinion. What do you find about this design that is so superior to Allianz, etc.? Especially if you're talking about aesthetics then I find it hard for you to call something bad. Either you like it or don't, but you can't measure personal aesthetic appeal as either good or bad, let alone "like shit."

You can, perhaps it is the 'like shit' comment that offends your political correctness, but either way you sound like a computer crashing. For me, this stadium is superior aesthetically to the three other stadiums I mentioned. I am allowed to do this and believe passionately in it. What exactly is your malfunction with my statement? You want me to explain why the new Wembley was so bland they had to add a crane like structure in the shape of an arch to at least add some sort of character? Would you like to know why the Allianz which looks like someone has broken a lava lamp over a tire is not beautiful to me? The Liverpool stadium I will not even start on as there is so much unattractive about it imo.

Now this Valencia stadium IMO is a beautiful piece of design. Original, modern, sleek, I love its name across the side - very Catalan/Valenciano to advertise like this, it is more than a stadium for football. It is a beautiful structure that reminds us of firstly the huge architectural heritage of Valencia and indeed all the Costa Brava, the love of football of this community, the attention to detail and finally the natural beauty of the actual design. Now a politically correct person would simply say - 'I think, the new Liverpool stadium ect perhaps got it wrong when you compare it to the new Valencia stadium.' Me, considering the money, boastful nature of these previous stadium - plus how ugly they all look, I myself, not politically correct - not at a dinner party with ambassadors, but on an internet forum can simply say - 'they will be made to look like shit when the new Valencia stadium is finished.' And I stand by that.

[GunnerJacket]

Originally Posted by Reaper-strain

You can, perhaps it is the 'like shit' comment that offends your political correctness, but either way you sound like a computer crashing. For me, this stadium is superior aesthetically to the three other stadiums I mentioned. I am allowed to do this and believe passionately in it. What exactly is your malfunction with my statement? You want me to explain why the new Wembley was so bland they had to add a crane like structure in the shape of an arch to at least add some sort of character? Would you like to know why the Allianz which looks like someone has broken a lava lamp over a tire is not beautiful to me? The Liverpool stadium I will not even start on as there is so much unattractive about it imo.

Now this Valencia stadium IMO is a beautiful piece of design. Original, modern, sleek, I love its name across the side - very Catalan/Valenciano to advertise like this, it is more than a stadium for football. It is a beautiful structure that reminds us of firstly the huge architectural heritage of Valencia and indeed all the Costa Brava, the love of football of this community, the attention to detail and finally the natural beauty of the actual design. Now a politically correct person would simply say - 'I think, the new Liverpool stadium ect perhaps got it wrong when you compare it to the new Valencia stadium.' Me, considering the money, boastful nature of these previous stadium - plus how ugly they all look, I myself, not politically correct - not at a dinner party with ambassadors, but on an internet forum can simply say - 'they will be made to look like shit when the new Valencia stadium is finished.' And I stand by that.

Pardon me for trying to figure out what you're basing your opinion on. I was simply looking for a qualifier as to what you saw in this stadium that not only was to your liking but in turn put the others to shame. Such reasoning sounds like inherent bias rather than architectural criticism. I agree the arch at Wembley is contrite, but my opinion of Wembley is based on Wembley, not the Mastella. And seeing as I find the Mastella less than original or dynamic I wanted to learn if there was something more that I was missing. I guess on one level I didn't get the response I'd hoped for, but on another I found what I was looking for. Thanks for, um, discussing.

[Reaper-strain]

Originally Posted by GunnerJacket

but my opinion of Wembley is based on Wembley, not the Mastella.

Good for you, I however am able to compare stadia. I compared you to a computer as a joke, now I see I was actually skirting around the reality of your binary mind. I am also able to compare stadiums, I did. You first told me I cannot compare them on Aesthetics () - I proved I could. I stated - only briefly why I do not like these stadia as I already sensed your mind was in overload when telling me I could not compare the aesthetics in the first place. Now you come back with bias?

I don't like arguing with broken Macs - man - reboot and then perhaps download a programme that explains that humans are capable of making choices on aesthetics and then - even comparing the results without being bias, in a swimming pool or any other stupid excuse your corrupted binary tries to resolve the obvious with.

If none of this works, you may have caught a virus, try this . Only when I am sure your harddrive is clean will I engage you with more details about how unimaginative 'The Home of Football' is if you wish to discuss further.

[MoreOrLess]

Originally Posted by Reaper-strain

I am neither, only interested in aesthetics and this stadium is superior in beauty than Wembley the Allianz and the drawings for the new Liverpool stadium. It might be hard for you to accept this coming from someone with no natural bias accept that of aesthetics but at the end of the day, who cares. If you can't accept that basic fact, life becomes very complicated.

Again, Well done to the Valencianos showing us their true style.

Your one of the most nationalistic posters on this forum in my expereince so excuse me if I ignore the "no bias" comment.

[Reaper-strain]

Originally Posted by MoreOrLess

Your one of the most nationalistic posters on this forum in my expereince so excuse me if I ignore the "no bias" comment.

Nationalistic? That is the love of one country. Which country am I nationalistic for? Please show me and feel free to quote my past posts. i think you will find it is more than one unfortunately for your nationalist argument. But feel free to ignore my 'bias' post on aesthetics of stadia - its only fair, whenever i smell someone politically correct like yourself, i throw up in my mouth a little.

[Reaper-strain]

Originally Posted by aCidMinD81

Link to the not scaled panorama (3,62 Mb)

great pic