VALENCIA - Nou Mestalla (73,200) - Page 2

Neutral! · November 12th, 2006, 03:36 AM

I like.

decapitated · November 12th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Design is fantastic indeed, but won't the best stadium in the world. Schalke's Veltins Arena is still the best arena.

aCidMinD81 · November 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM

Dossier

All the information here:

http://www.valenciacf.es/images/noti...on-Estadio.pdf

savas · November 12th, 2006, 04:40 PM

Fantastic,... looks great...

Neda Say · November 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM

I don't know if it's going to be the best. But on paper this is just mind blowing. I hate to use words like that but it really is a "sexy" stadium. There is a spanish design in this thing that no recently build stadium has, even the very slick stadium build for the germany world cup or the most recent nfl stadium do not match it in terms of design on rendering I've seen only one stadium looking that good and it is the Beijing olympic stadium.

That stadium is not just a stadium it's a statement from Valencia and what a statement this is!

Kampflamm · November 12th, 2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neda Say

But what I like the most is the price!!! Now I don't believe that you can do a 75000 seater for that little or is spanish workforce really that cheap!?

300 million Euros is a lot (at least for European standards...I know that some American stadiums cost more). All German wc stadiums for example cost less (including the Allianz Arena).

aCidMinD81 · November 13th, 2006, 12:20 AM

Picts of the model by Potajillo:

Enzo911 · November 13th, 2006, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks

Any idea when construction will actually begin?

Begin- March 2007
End- May 2009

I love it!

Enzo911 · November 13th, 2006, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neda Say

Ok that stadium is just the best design I 've seen in years for a stadium. However isn't it suppose to house an athletic track in order to welcome the Valencia track and field championship bid. But what I like the most is the price!!! Now I don't believe that you can do a 75000 seater for that little or is spanish workforce really that cheap!?
Anyway this thing is just stunning

Say me any football (not Olympic or athletic) stadium in Europe, that cost more

Gelsenkirchen: 191.000.000€ for 52.000. 3.673€/p
Munich: 280.000.000€ for 66.000. 4.200€/p
Frankfurt: 126.000.000€ for 48.000. 2.600€/p
Hamburgo: 97.000.000€ for 55.000. 1.800€/p
Leipzig: 91.000.000€ for 43.000. 2.100€/p
JOSE ALVALADE (Lisboa) 80.000.000€ for 52.000. 1.500€/p
DO DRAGAO (Oporto) 98.000.000€ for 52.000. 1.888€/p
ESTADIO DE LA LUZ (Lisboa) 119.000.000€ for 65.000. 1.800€/p
Saint Dennis, Paris 426.000.000$- 331.000.000€ for 80.000. 4.100€/p
New Wembley, London. 1.000.000.000€ for 90.000. 11.000€/p, but this include not only the stadium, and this is NOT a FOOTBALL stadium. And of course, London is London.

Mestalla: 300.000.000€ for 75.000. 4.000€/p

Only Munich and Saint Dennis cost more. And only about 200€/p

385.000.000 $

November 13th, 2006, 01:54 AM

Good riddance, the current Mestalla is horrific. This area is so dead though. Are there not any plans to add shops etc. The current club shop is nice, but far to small.

rantanamo · November 13th, 2006, 03:59 AM

If that's all it costs, it won't be super duper super inside. That could be a refreshing lack of 10 billion suites or just decent concources. Also lacks any retractable roof, so that keeps costs down. Does it still have the elevating floor. Don't know if it will be the best, but its certainly the best looking

pompeyfan · November 13th, 2006, 06:27 AM

i don't think it's that great. It just looks like someone hit the outside with a cricket bat.

Durbsboi · November 13th, 2006, 10:01 AM

True that, basic bowl with extrodinary cladding & roof, but it does look marvelous

gorgu · November 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enzo911

New Wembley, London. 1.000.000.000€ for 90.000. 11.000€/p, but this include not only the stadium, and this is NOT a FOOTBALL stadium. And of course, London is London.

Really shit I think you are gonna find a lot of pissed off English people when they go there and people are playing Eton fives.

Wembley IS a football stadium, it is just going to be used for other sports such as Rugby League and perhaps athletics if London bids for the world athletics championships.

Martuh · November 13th, 2006, 01:44 PM

This, my friends, is a true football stadium:

And not some multifuntional retractable roof thingy.

Another beauty destroyed and replaced for modern art

Vilak · November 13th, 2006, 02:57 PM

Mestalllia actual configuration is illegal and Valencia owner want a bigger stadium so this is the only option available.

FCB_Flo · November 13th, 2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kampflamm

300 million Euros is a lot (at least for European standards...I know that some American stadiums cost more). All German wc stadiums for example cost less (including the Allianz Arena).

Allianz Arena 340 Mio €

Kampflamm · November 13th, 2006, 06:48 PM

Oops, thought it cost around EUR280mil. My bad.

Neda Say · November 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM

Wait a minute guys; 300 M for a 75000 seater is a total deal.
Allianz arena 340 in the current config the average to get that now.
Wembley is wembley and london is london fair enough
The Emirates stadium is around 390 M Pounds Lyon new arena around 500 M euros and these two are or are going to be 60000 seater.
Most world cup 2006 are also an incredible deals but you have to consider the fact that the deals were signed 5 years ago on average.
The first decent NFL arena is cost a minimum of 700 USD and generally land aquisition is way cheaper

4000 a seat in 2006 is an absolute deal especially since it's located downtown! not 10km away from the first urban area.

The design doesn't look cheap either this is all the way up there in my ranking. 4000 a seat well on rendering it worths every penny!

Viva Valencia!

Enzo911 · November 13th, 2006, 09:17 PM

Yes, I also think that the real cost will be more than 400m €
In Valencia we have a lot of examples of this:
Palau de les Arts (1995-2005) was estimated in approximately 150 m€, and finally it costs more than 400m €

The building that appears behind in the center of the photo:

November 12th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#22
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November 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM	#23
aCidMinD81 Tres huevos Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valencia (Spain, EU) Posts: 2,690 Likes (Received): 4	Dossier All the information here: http://www.valenciacf.es/images/noti...on-Estadio.pdf __________________ ¡Ma que ets templà, bonica, artista i fallera!

November 12th, 2006, 04:40 PM	#24
savas produit hellenique Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,408 Likes (Received): 39	Fantastic,... looks great... __________________ Και πρώτα απ'όλα τι εννοούμε λέγοντας παιδεία; Την πληροφορία, την τεχνική, το δίπλωμα εξειδίκευσης που εξασφαλίζει γάμο, αυτοκίνητο κι ακίνητο, με πληρωμή την πλήρη υποταγή του εξασφαλισθέντος ή την πνευματική και ψυχική διάπλαση ενός ελεύθερου ανθρώπου, με τεχνική αναθεώρησης κι ονειρικής δομής, με αγωνία απελευθέρωσης και με διαθέσεις μιας ιπτάμενης φυγής προς τ'άστρα; M.X.

November 13th, 2006, 12:20 AM	#27
aCidMinD81 Tres huevos Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valencia (Spain, EU) Posts: 2,690 Likes (Received): 4	Picts of the model by Potajillo: __________________ ¡Ma que ets templà, bonica, artista i fallera!

November 13th, 2006, 06:27 AM	#32
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November 12th, 2006, 03:36 AM	#21
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November 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM	#25
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	I don't know if it's going to be the best. But on paper this is just mind blowing. I hate to use words like that but it really is a "sexy" stadium. There is a spanish design in this thing that no recently build stadium has, even the very slick stadium build for the germany world cup or the most recent nfl stadium do not match it in terms of design on rendering I've seen only one stadium looking that good and it is the Beijing olympic stadium. That stadium is not just a stadium it's a statement from Valencia and what a statement this is!

November 13th, 2006, 01:54 AM	#30
SimLim Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Good riddance, the current Mestalla is horrific. This area is so dead though. Are there not any plans to add shops etc. The current club shop is nice, but far to small.

November 13th, 2006, 03:59 AM	#31
rantanamo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,869 Likes (Received): 6	If that's all it costs, it won't be super duper super inside. That could be a refreshing lack of 10 billion suites or just decent concources. Also lacks any retractable roof, so that keeps costs down. Does it still have the elevating floor. Don't know if it will be the best, but its certainly the best looking

November 13th, 2006, 10:01 AM	#33
Durbsboi East Coast Massiv Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Durban Posts: 16,997 Likes (Received): 4	True that, basic bowl with extrodinary cladding & roof, but it does look marvelous __________________ Ðŭґطąמ South Africa's Playground! the Bucket

November 13th, 2006, 01:44 PM	#35
Martuh Triple X Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 803 Likes (Received): 2	This, my friends, is a true football stadium: And not some multifuntional retractable roof thingy. Another beauty destroyed and replaced for modern art

November 13th, 2006, 02:57 PM	#36
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Mestalllia actual configuration is illegal and Valencia owner want a bigger stadium so this is the only option available.

November 13th, 2006, 06:48 PM	#38
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November 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM	#39
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,010 Likes (Received): 9	Wait a minute guys; 300 M for a 75000 seater is a total deal. Allianz arena 340 in the current config the average to get that now. Wembley is wembley and london is london fair enough The Emirates stadium is around 390 M Pounds Lyon new arena around 500 M euros and these two are or are going to be 60000 seater. Most world cup 2006 are also an incredible deals but you have to consider the fact that the deals were signed 5 years ago on average. The first decent NFL arena is cost a minimum of 700 USD and generally land aquisition is way cheaper 4000 a seat in 2006 is an absolute deal especially since it's located downtown! not 10km away from the first urban area. The design doesn't look cheap either this is all the way up there in my ranking. 4000 a seat well on rendering it worths every penny! Viva Valencia!

November 13th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#40
Enzo911 Por Astérix Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,782 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, I also think that the real cost will be more than 400m € In Valencia we have a lot of examples of this: Palau de les Arts (1995-2005) was estimated in approximately 150 m€, and finally it costs more than 400m € The building that appears behind in the center of the photo:

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