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traveler · November 13th, 2006, 10:54 PM

Looks great, i don't believe it's the best Stadium in the World. Only the spanish press thinks that way.

pompeyfan · November 14th, 2006, 06:35 AM

What exactly makes this "The best stadium in the world". Is it going to just be a 75000 seat stadium with a literally "smashing" exterior?

dmscopio · November 14th, 2006, 09:46 AM

What an authentic concept for a stadium!!Making the connection between the football club and the community through the stadium. The designer definitly has a deep understanding of the meaning of sport arena. That is some great artchitecture out there.

aCidMinD81 · November 14th, 2006, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexfan2

What exactly makes this "The best stadium in the world". Is it going to just be a 75000 seat stadium with a literally "smashing" exterior?

Is the best stadium the one which just have a huge capability?

aCidMinD81 · November 14th, 2006, 02:08 PM

New pics from the RFA website (www.reid-fenwick.es)

Internal views:

External views:

skaP187 · November 14th, 2006, 05:19 PM

it is surely one of the best stadia in the world, atleast I like it very much. I do not believe in sayings as the best (concerning buildings, this I think you can only say in sport, you could say Italy is worldchampion and so they are the best, not with buildings mop)
But my question is, what does this design still have to do with the original design?

GNU · November 14th, 2006, 06:42 PM

It looks great on the renderings.
Will be interesting to see how it will come out.
Does anybody have any information about the financing of this stadium?

Enzo911 · November 14th, 2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaP187

But my question is, what does this design still have to do with the original design?

Enzo911 · November 14th, 2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Checker

It looks great on the renderings.
Will be interesting to see how it will come out.
Does anybody have any information about the financing of this stadium?

From this:

To this:

89.000m2
Around 3.500-4.000€/m2
More than 300.000.000€

skaP187 · November 14th, 2006, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enzo911

Do I have something in my eye?

rantanamo · November 14th, 2006, 09:07 PM

Allianz with a different exterior

Enzo911 · November 14th, 2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaP187

Do I have something in my eye?

Te referias a esto?

Enzo911 · November 14th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rantanamo

Allianz with a different exterior

tv123 · November 14th, 2006, 11:32 PM

can Valencia fill the stadium?

Enzo911 · November 15th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Of course. Now they have 42.000 associates, and more than 20.000 in waiting-list. The actual capacity is 53.000. And every week the stadium is plenty

pompeyfan · November 15th, 2006, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aCidMinD81

Is the best stadium the one which just have a huge capability?

No, but if it's just a 75000 seat stadium, there really isn't that much to make it any better than Sun Devil Stadium or any other stadium in the world. There are hundreds of 75000+ seat stadiums in the world, what exactly singles this out as the best?

aCidMinD81 · November 15th, 2006, 02:24 AM

I didn't know Sun Devil Stadium so I had to search for some pics...

Now... are you telling me that this thing is as good than new Mestalla? LOL

Once again is quite important for you to link the capability with the quality... so here you have the main facts about New Mestalla.

Location:

- Excellent location from: city centre, ring motorway, airport, train station, several hotels.
- Public transport: Underground train, buses

General Public:

- Interior concourse with views of the pitch
- 22 lifts and good lifts
- 10 vertical shafts with fire protection system
- Toilets. Standards required by UEFA
- More than 75 sales points

Car parking:

- 2600 parking spaces underground
- Direct access from main roads

Disabled:

- The disabled have access to all levels of the stadium
- Accesses and vertical circulation free of architectonical obstacles
- Safe waiting areas in emergency exits

Honour tribune:

- Capacity for 150 seats
- 350 m2 room for presidents ans authorities
- Direct access by lift from the parking
- Safe route for authorities

VIP zone:

- 72 individual VIP boxes: 18 platinum boxes, 22 gold boxes, 24 silver boxes.
- VIP bronze tribune: 1500 seats
- Waiting rooms
- 1200 m2 in two VIP waiting rooms

Premium VIP parking

- 130 Car parking spaces
- Direct acces by lifts to boxes

VIP Parking:

- 330 car parking spaces
- Direct access by lift to boxes

Catering:

- 1 large 3000 m2 restaurant with views to the pitch and for daily use
- 2 pubs with common areas to ciculation bulevard
- 4 coffee corners in angles of bulevard

Sport zone:

- Independant car parking: 30 spaces for technical staff and players
- 4 bus spaces reserved fo LFP, UEFA and FIFA
- Symetrical instalation for each team (450 m2 each one)
- Complies with UEFA and FIFA norms

Media zone:

- Access control and waiting room connected to work spaces
- 475 m2 for work zone
- Upper access to 200 seat auditorium
- Self catering areas
- Flash interview rooms
- 4 TV studios
- 250 m2 mixed zone

The Valencia Experience:

- Fan clubs
- company presentation
- Themed restaurants
- Valencia CF Museum
- Guided Tour
- Themed shops
- Family Events

Bowl

- Excellent visibillity and comfortable seats
- Seat measurements set new standars for modern stadiums (50 x 95 cm)

Spectators

- Lower: 22.000
- Middle: 18.000
- Upper: 35.000

Total: 75.000

Flexibility:

- Concerts
- Meetings
- Company events
- Athletics (running track available)

Skin:

- Interior skin to structure finished in wooden battons
- External skin evokes each Valencia neighrbouhood with the Turia river as the central divider. It is made of glass and titanium.

kinggeorge · November 15th, 2006, 03:23 AM

until it is built it is nothing....the best stadium right now is hands down OAKA...but i will say the renderings look very nice

Calvin W · November 15th, 2006, 05:48 AM

I for one think it could be the best in the world when completed. Just make sure the Brits don't find out someone is building the best instead of their precious Wembley.

NeilF · November 15th, 2006, 08:11 AM

A bunch of people here are talking about how the inside is just another generic bowl. I'm interested to know exactly what these people feel could be done to improve the inside of a stadium? Build it like Old Trafford? Or maybe like the Ricoh Arena?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggeorge

until it is built it is nothing....the best stadium right now is hands down OAKA...but i will say the renderings look very nice

OAKA is nice and all, but it's basically little more than an OTT variation of a general external stadium shape that was also used in Sydney and, indeed, Hong Kong stadium. The fact that the roof is held by suspension and has a few waves in it does not make the stadium special in any way whatsoever.

November 13th, 2006, 10:54 PM	#41
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November 14th, 2006, 06:35 AM	#42
pompeyfan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beerwah, Queensland Posts: 1,229 Likes (Received): 1	What exactly makes this "The best stadium in the world". Is it going to just be a 75000 seat stadium with a literally "smashing" exterior? __________________ Check out my latest stadium models for sketchup here Keep up with my latest projects here

November 14th, 2006, 02:08 PM	#45
aCidMinD81 Tres huevos Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valencia (Spain, EU) Posts: 2,690 Likes (Received): 4	New pics from the RFA website (www.reid-fenwick.es) Internal views: External views: __________________ ¡Ma que ets templà, bonica, artista i fallera!

November 15th, 2006, 02:24 AM	#57
aCidMinD81 Tres huevos Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valencia (Spain, EU) Posts: 2,690 Likes (Received): 4	I didn't know Sun Devil Stadium so I had to search for some pics... Now... are you telling me that this thing is as good than new Mestalla? LOL Once again is quite important for you to link the capability with the quality... so here you have the main facts about New Mestalla. Location: - Excellent location from: city centre, ring motorway, airport, train station, several hotels. - Public transport: Underground train, buses General Public: - Interior concourse with views of the pitch - 22 lifts and good lifts - 10 vertical shafts with fire protection system - Toilets. Standards required by UEFA - More than 75 sales points Car parking: - 2600 parking spaces underground - Direct access from main roads Disabled: - The disabled have access to all levels of the stadium - Accesses and vertical circulation free of architectonical obstacles - Safe waiting areas in emergency exits Honour tribune: - Capacity for 150 seats - 350 m2 room for presidents ans authorities - Direct access by lift from the parking - Safe route for authorities VIP zone: - 72 individual VIP boxes: 18 platinum boxes, 22 gold boxes, 24 silver boxes. - VIP bronze tribune: 1500 seats - Waiting rooms - 1200 m2 in two VIP waiting rooms Premium VIP parking - 130 Car parking spaces - Direct acces by lifts to boxes VIP Parking: - 330 car parking spaces - Direct access by lift to boxes Catering: - 1 large 3000 m2 restaurant with views to the pitch and for daily use - 2 pubs with common areas to ciculation bulevard - 4 coffee corners in angles of bulevard Sport zone: - Independant car parking: 30 spaces for technical staff and players - 4 bus spaces reserved fo LFP, UEFA and FIFA - Symetrical instalation for each team (450 m2 each one) - Complies with UEFA and FIFA norms Media zone: - Access control and waiting room connected to work spaces - 475 m2 for work zone - Upper access to 200 seat auditorium - Self catering areas - Flash interview rooms - 4 TV studios - 250 m2 mixed zone The Valencia Experience: - Fan clubs - company presentation - Themed restaurants - Valencia CF Museum - Guided Tour - Themed shops - Family Events Bowl - Excellent visibillity and comfortable seats - Seat measurements set new standars for modern stadiums (50 x 95 cm) Spectators - Lower: 22.000 - Middle: 18.000 - Upper: 35.000 Total: 75.000 Flexibility: - Concerts - Meetings - Company events - Athletics (running track available) Skin: - Interior skin to structure finished in wooden battons - External skin evokes each Valencia neighrbouhood with the Turia river as the central divider. It is made of glass and titanium. __________________ ¡Ma que ets templà, bonica, artista i fallera!

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November 14th, 2006, 09:46 AM	#43
dmscopio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 90 Likes (Received): 1	What an authentic concept for a stadium!!Making the connection between the football club and the community through the stadium. The designer definitly has a deep understanding of the meaning of sport arena. That is some great artchitecture out there.

November 14th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#46
skaP187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alicante Posts: 1,684 Likes (Received): 10	it is surely one of the best stadia in the world, atleast I like it very much. I do not believe in sayings as the best (concerning buildings, this I think you can only say in sport, you could say Italy is worldchampion and so they are the best, not with buildings mop) But my question is, what does this design still have to do with the original design?

November 14th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#47
GNU Gnuru Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brave GNU World Posts: 2,787 Likes (Received): 10	It looks great on the renderings. Will be interesting to see how it will come out. Does anybody have any information about the financing of this stadium?

November 14th, 2006, 09:07 PM	#51
rantanamo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,868 Likes (Received): 5	Allianz with a different exterior

November 14th, 2006, 11:32 PM	#54
tv123 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 297 Likes (Received): 0	can Valencia fill the stadium?

November 15th, 2006, 12:09 AM	#55
Enzo911 Por Astérix Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,782 Likes (Received): 0	Of course. Now they have 42.000 associates, and more than 20.000 in waiting-list. The actual capacity is 53.000. And every week the stadium is plenty

November 15th, 2006, 03:23 AM	#58
kinggeorge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 102 Likes (Received): 0	until it is built it is nothing....the best stadium right now is hands down OAKA...but i will say the renderings look very nice

November 15th, 2006, 05:48 AM	#59
Calvin W Canadian eh! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Where am I? Prove it! Posts: 2,031 Likes (Received): 8	I for one think it could be the best in the world when completed. Just make sure the Brits don't find out someone is building the best instead of their precious Wembley.