Future of LAX - Page 4

Skyblade · September 20th, 2007, 05:04 AM

Not in the near future at least. FedEx and UPS have cancelled their orders and options for the A380F as well.

BTW for anyone attending tomorrow's exhibit at Flight Path, I'll have either a black FlyerTalk or grey Northwest Airlines cap on.

Fern~Fern* · September 20th, 2007, 05:26 AM

I would love to attend but have to work...

Jim856796 · September 22nd, 2007, 06:01 AM

All the terminals in LAX have been built before 2000 and are outdated. This airport needs a major redevelopment which involves renovation/upgrading of some terminals or demolition of other terminals.

klamedia · September 22nd, 2007, 10:48 AM

I thought that was what the Hahn proposal was all about.....outright complete redevelopment. I guess LAX will just become the La Guardia of the west.

Jim856796 · September 22nd, 2007, 12:53 PM

Or the John F. Kennedy Airport of the West.

jessemh431 · September 23rd, 2007, 12:30 AM

i saw something in the Playa del Rey/Westchester Argonaut today about LAX. LAX is only 3500 acres, while other airports are 18000, even 30000 acres. Someone wrote to them suggesting they build an airport off the mainland just like osaka, japan did.

klamedia · September 23rd, 2007, 04:36 AM

Build an airport on Catalina or surrounding islands.....

phattonez · September 23rd, 2007, 05:15 AM

Catalina is all hills, and what would be the point of putting a big airport there? Are you going to then ship everyone into LA?

CITYofDREAMS · September 23rd, 2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jessemh431

i saw something in the Playa del Rey/Westchester Argonaut today about LAX. LAX is only 3500 acres, while other airports are 18000, even 30000 acres. Someone wrote to them suggesting they build an airport off the mainland just like osaka, japan did.

LAX is a small airport compare to some others like Dallas... They definitely need to medernize it before all the business moves elsewhere.

Westsidelife · September 23rd, 2007, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CITYofDREAMS

LAX is a small airport compare to some others like Dallas... They definitely need to medernize it before all the business moves elsewhere.

LAX may be smaller than DFW, but LAX is still a busier airport (barely, though).

It's true, airlines are choosing to fly to other airports instead of LAX. But LAX will be the #2 worldwide hub for the new Airbus A380. That should help increase passenger traffic at LAX.

The Baz · September 23rd, 2007, 05:52 AM

What LAWA needs to do is focus on directing traffic towards the other airports it owns. People from the Valley or Aliso Viejo should not be trucking it to Westchester in order to fly to La Vegas on some cheap Southwest deal. This region is too large and congested to think the entire metro needs serviced from one airport.

CITYofDREAMS · September 23rd, 2007, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Westsidelife

LAX may be smaller than DFW, but LAX is still a busier airport (barely, though).

It's true, airlines are choosing to fly to other airports instead of LAX. But LAX will be the #2 worldwide hub for the new Airbus A380. That should help increase passenger traffic at LAX.

yes... for it's size LAX handles an incredible amount of traffic that really puts to shame much larger facilities around the country... but it's really in need of some major make over.

milquetoast · September 23rd, 2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Westsidelife

LAX may be smaller than DFW, but LAX is still a busier airport (barely, though).

It's true, airlines are choosing to fly to other airports instead of LAX. But LAX will be the #2 worldwide hub for the new Airbus A380. That should help increase passenger traffic at LAX.

What are the particulars concerning the A380 and L A X being the #2 hub?

klamedia · September 23rd, 2007, 05:35 PM

I think the only solution mainly because of LAX being in the middle of a dense urban area is to diffuse its traffic to the smaller airports as someone has already stated. John Wayne, Ontario and Long Beach should take some of the stress off of LAX.

Epicentre · September 24th, 2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by klamedia

I think the only solution mainly because of LAX being in the middle of a dense urban area is to diffuse its traffic to the smaller airports as someone has already stated. John Wayne, Ontario and Long Beach should take some of the stress off of LAX.

Residents won't have it, especially in Orange County. Ontario is probably the only viable option.

croyboy · September 25th, 2007, 01:10 AM

LAX does have plenty of room to expand west toward the ocean. nothing's there but a road which would be able to go under the airport anyway. more terminals can be built in the same direction on both north and south sides as long as the hangars and other airport owned property moves westward as well.

the space can be used, but ontario needs to expand too before anything else develops around there. also, the gold line extension to ontario would be the only line that directly connects downtown to a major regional airport.

croyboy · September 25th, 2007, 01:16 AM

an airport on a nearby island (manmade or natural) would be great several decades from now. a high-speed train and high capacity freeway in a "chunnel" is the best way to get to los angeles from there.

that would obviously be very expensive, but necessary in the future when our airports can expand no further. at least you can build off of an uninhabited island.

jessemh431 · September 25th, 2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by croyboy

an airport on a nearby island (manmade or natural) would be great several decades from now. a high-speed train and high capacity freeway in a "chunnel" is the best way to get to los angeles from there.

that would obviously be very expensive, but necessary in the future when our airports can expand no further. at least you can build off of an uninhabited island.

thats going to be the only possible method.

Quote:

Originally Posted by croyboy

LAX does have plenty of room to expand west toward the ocean. nothing's there but a road which would be able to go under the airport anyway. more terminals can be built in the same direction on both north and south sides as long as the hangars and other airport owned property moves westward as well.

the space can be used, but ontario needs to expand too before anything else develops around there. also, the gold line extension to ontario would be the only line that directly connects downtown to a major regional airport.

if they went west, they would ruin the el segundo blue butterfly habitat

Fern~Fern* · September 25th, 2007, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croyboy

an airport on a nearby island (manmade or natural) would be great several decades from now. a high-speed train and high capacity freeway in a "chunnel" is the best way to get to los angeles from there.

that would obviously be very expensive, but necessary in the future when our airports can expand no further. at least you can build off of an uninhabited island.

^ That's what the problem is here in L.A.. We never get nothing done because it's too expansive and whatnot. Well it's not going to get any cheaper in the future so just start building it know!!!!

jessemh431 · September 25th, 2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferneynism

^ That's what the problem is here in L.A.. We never get nothing done because it's too expansive and whatnot. Well it's not going to get any cheaper in the future so just start building it know!!!!

you're right. also, the state keeps cutting funds heading towards LA. i think LA needs a lot more money than any other city in CA

September 20th, 2007, 05:04 AM	#61
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September 20th, 2007, 05:26 AM	#62
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September 22nd, 2007, 10:48 AM	#64
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	I thought that was what the Hahn proposal was all about.....outright complete redevelopment. I guess LAX will just become the La Guardia of the west. __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 23rd, 2007, 04:36 AM	#67
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	Build an airport on Catalina or surrounding islands..... __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 23rd, 2007, 05:15 AM	#68
phattonez Bleed Dodger Blue Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The City of Angels Posts: 1,843 Likes (Received): 0	Catalina is all hills, and what would be the point of putting a big airport there? Are you going to then ship everyone into LA? __________________ "[G]overnment does not have the power to encourage one branch of production except by curtailing other branches." "A wicked man puts up a bold front, but an upright man gives thought to his ways." - Proverbs 21: 29 Beer, Guns, and Baseball Take Down All Stop Lights

September 22nd, 2007, 06:01 AM	#63
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,743 Likes (Received): 7	All the terminals in LAX have been built before 2000 and are outdated. This airport needs a major redevelopment which involves renovation/upgrading of some terminals or demolition of other terminals.

September 22nd, 2007, 12:53 PM	#65
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,743 Likes (Received): 7	Or the John F. Kennedy Airport of the West.

September 23rd, 2007, 12:30 AM	#66
jessemh431 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 971 Likes (Received): 0	i saw something in the Playa del Rey/Westchester Argonaut today about LAX. LAX is only 3500 acres, while other airports are 18000, even 30000 acres. Someone wrote to them suggesting they build an airport off the mainland just like osaka, japan did.

September 23rd, 2007, 05:52 AM	#71
The Baz Season Tix Avail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunset Strip, West Hollywood Posts: 342 Likes (Received): 0	What LAWA needs to do is focus on directing traffic towards the other airports it owns. People from the Valley or Aliso Viejo should not be trucking it to Westchester in order to fly to La Vegas on some cheap Southwest deal. This region is too large and congested to think the entire metro needs serviced from one airport.

September 23rd, 2007, 05:35 PM	#74
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	I think the only solution mainly because of LAX being in the middle of a dense urban area is to diffuse its traffic to the smaller airports as someone has already stated. John Wayne, Ontario and Long Beach should take some of the stress off of LAX. __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 25th, 2007, 01:10 AM	#76
croyboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,031 Likes (Received): 2	LAX does have plenty of room to expand west toward the ocean. nothing's there but a road which would be able to go under the airport anyway. more terminals can be built in the same direction on both north and south sides as long as the hangars and other airport owned property moves westward as well. the space can be used, but ontario needs to expand too before anything else develops around there. also, the gold line extension to ontario would be the only line that directly connects downtown to a major regional airport. __________________ just build it, whatever it is

September 25th, 2007, 01:16 AM	#77
croyboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,031 Likes (Received): 2	an airport on a nearby island (manmade or natural) would be great several decades from now. a high-speed train and high capacity freeway in a "chunnel" is the best way to get to los angeles from there. that would obviously be very expensive, but necessary in the future when our airports can expand no further. at least you can build off of an uninhabited island. __________________ just build it, whatever it is

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