New Songdo City - Gateway to Northeast Asia

[efesese]

OH... MY... GOD... Thanks for all the pics guys! I never thought they would build all this so fast!

[korea2002]

Tubman Asia-Mikabet bria Department Store Songdo




Sheraton-Workerhill Songdo Hotel


Songdo Posco Expo Villiage

Songdo Jack nicklaus Golf club

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[Svajoklis]

What provisions have been made for transport in the New Songdo City? It is such a big project, but from the render it would seem that there is little public transport, and instead the development will be characterised by bleak, multi-laned highways such as those that ruin all cities in Korea :-(

[princeofseoul]

Originally Posted by Svajoklis

What provisions have been made for transport in the New Songdo City? It is such a big project, but from the render it would seem that there is little public transport, and instead the development will be characterised by bleak, multi-laned highways such as those that ruin all cities in Korea :-(

Line #1 of Incheon subway will be extended by 6 stations to cover new songdo city. Construction will end in september 2009.

There's not more "bleak multi-laned highways" in Korea than in other advanced economies I know of.

[korea2002]

Originally Posted by Svajoklis

What provisions have been made for transport in the New Songdo City? It is such a big project, but from the render it would seem that there is little public transport, and instead the development will be characterised by bleak, multi-laned highways such as those that ruin all cities in Korea :-(

Do you worry about Songdo's Traffic System??? Many area,Traffic system such as Subway,Highway were conducted....
below...

I don't tell a lie...
Songdo is best city for Korea.

[Bentown]

what's the great project!!! I think It would be the new trend city for East asia.

[korea2002]

[korea2002]

Inchon on the 27th Art Center development blueprint released

… School of Music Opera House Concert Hall… large… Asia 'Mecca of the arts'




New Songdo City in the Incheon International deuleoseol 'Inchon Free Economic Zone Art Center (IAC)' Comprehensive Development Plan (master plan) will open on October 27.



It is attracting the most attention, concert halls, opera houses, miljiphan Art Center Music School is one of my limits.


Without a budget, almost all of magnetic poetry is just a high-tech art complex to be built over 1 trillion months while generously annual operational budget of the show to attract more than 400 times that the plan.


Accordingly, Incheon, and the development interests of the cultural and arts facilities ttangman geonriphae to donate 25 billion won annually for a special purpose corporation will also support operating expenses.


The conductor's brother jeongmyeonghun operated by the agency CMI Development Corporation and Incheon City last December, who is the special purpose of the law 'Art Center in Incheon Free Economic Zone Development' in the establishment.


The corporation has a total of about 700 billion won in the first half of 2012 to bring the international Songdo City 1, 3, 6 tools to 112,344 m² cultural complex (Block A), supporting cultural complex (B block), and commercial complex (C Block) wangonghal planning phase.


Only four stage of the culture medium and large concert halls and opera houses, a large fountain, Music School (School of Music), will take.


Music Concert Hall is part of the first half of 2010 gaejanghal playing professionally in the 1750-seat main stage performances and other events to the convention could proceed with the 500-seat configuration damokjeokhol (small theater). Gaejangil the first half of 2011 is officially scheduled.


Wangongdoel the Opera House in the first half of 2012 opera, musical performances to be a 1350-seat theater and a 400-seat multipurpose done in a small theater.


Music School is scheduled for 2010 in March gaegyohal Korean National University of Arts, the United States won julriahdeu music and the arts with a major in interdisciplinary operate as a positive. Domestic and foreign universities and schools by establishing venture vocal and orchestral music as a major positive. Dorm Life, a 300-yard, most in their plans to make them.


Only with the support of block B similar to the design of the school and the School of Music concert to support the creation of a production studio, a library, dormitories, and the office building. C block includes hotels, condominiums and shopping centers yongdoin 53-story height of the building, will take a health spa facilities.


Incheon Tourist jodongam exaggerated, "Mr. jeongmyeonghun permanent orchestra, led by Dan Cultural Foundation is to hold high-level planning and performances, as well as to attract domestic and Asian artistes to educate the professional 'stronghold arts institutions' will be," he said.

[korea2002]

POSCO Construction work on June 28, just Incheon International Songdo City facility in the complex task 'load cents' ceremonies held.

Songdo international business from Earth cents load is the first sale of the business facilities.

33 cheunggwa 34 buildings on the ground, and two office buildings on the ground 45 cheungin 1 cheungin office buildings (264 rooms) components.

May's sales office.

Incheon Subway Line 1 cent load before the sixth extension of the station's deuleoseol sector plans.

POSCO vice president of construction joyonggyeong "Songdo International cent of the city's work load facility will be the development of full-scale flare," said "the future of the Songdo international business just to enable seamless development and attracting domestic and foreign investment to be an opportunity," he said.

Songdo international business is only 20 billion US dollars by 2014 is nearly twice the land area of Yeouido tuipdwae ㎡ 5.71 million (173 million pyong) Songdo international scale, the composition of the city's core business.

[Svajoklis]

Originally Posted by princeofseoul

Line #1 of Incheon subway will be extended by 6 stations to cover new songdo city. Construction will end in september 2009.

There's not more "bleak multi-laned highways" in Korea than in other advanced economies I know of.

Thanks for the info! Perhaps you have this impression because you live in the Western Hemisphere. In my experience many North American cities are also a nightmare for pedestrians, ruined by the noise, pollution and sheer visual abhorrence of multi-laned highways. Unfortunately Korea also followed this model of urban development during the 70s and 80s and beyond, whilst in Japan (and also in parts of Europe and elsewhere) they invested in mass transit and followed a high-density, human-scale approach to urban planning. As a result Japanese cities are much more pedestrian friendly and have a nicer ambience than Korean cities, which are often rather bleak in parts. However, it is very encouraging to see that the Koreans are finally reversing past mistakes - e.g. demolishing of Cheonggyecheon expressway, covering of Olympic expressway, expansion of subway and light-rail; however, unfortunately in some newer projects there still seems to be a certain disdain for the human being who is not encased in several tonnes of metal! I hope this will change in time.

[princeofseoul]

Originally Posted by Svajoklis

Thanks for the info! Perhaps you have this impression because you live in the Western Hemisphere. In my experience many North American cities are also a nightmare for pedestrians, ruined by the noise, pollution and sheer visual abhorrence of multi-laned highways. Unfortunately Korea also followed this model of urban development during the 70s and 80s and beyond, whilst in Japan (and also in parts of Europe and elsewhere) they invested in mass transit and followed a high-density, human-scale approach to urban planning. As a result Japanese cities are much more pedestrian friendly and have a nicer ambience than Korean cities, which are often rather bleak in parts. However, it is very encouraging to see that the Koreans are finally reversing past mistakes - e.g. demolishing of Cheonggyecheon expressway, covering of Olympic expressway, expansion of subway and light-rail; however, unfortunately in some newer projects there still seems to be a certain disdain for the human being who is not encased in several tonnes of metal! I hope this will change in time.

Korean cities are not developed based on the american model at all. They are developed based on the Paris/Moscow model with lots of commie blocks, medium-high to high population density typically in the range 6,000-15,000 persons per km2 and excellent public transportation.

Japanese cities are similar to scandinavian cities with mostly 2 story houses, low-to-medium population density typically ranging between 1800 and 5500 persons per km2 and where a car or a bike is generally required to live comfortably.


Japanese cities are more pedestrian friendly and have a nicer ambience than Korean cities? This depends how "pedestrian friendly" and "nicer ambience" are defined (i.e. your own preferences). If you prefer a paris-like highly-urban environment with lots of people, neons, shops, bars, accessible on foot from your apartment then Korea is for you without doubt. On the other hand, if you prefer a quiet scandinavian somewhat countryside environment with the occasional power mall, then Japan will certainly suit you better.

[overdtop]

aja!

[korea2002]

Songdo mall complex opened in 2010


Songdo international business park at the Incheon luxury brands in over 150 shops and Ice Rink, 1200-seat food court, a multi-plex theaters, department stores and convenience facilities such as shopping malls, with super-size complex by 2010 that will take (bird's-eye).

Songdo international business development, Incheon just signed a joint enforcement cooperation geilinteonaesyeol chain teobeumeonsaneun international business through a subsidiary teobeumeonahsiahreul just for the commercial area on May construction of the complex sopingmol chakgonghae gaejanghal 2010 will be the 30th year.

Songdo International Convention Center and the business only of the landmark 65-story office building gyeokin, hotel facilities and the construction site of an underground shopping mall complex, which is adjacent to the third floor, two on the ground floor of the building before yeonmyeon ㎡ 135,000 in damages. This luxury brand store, where more than 150 department stores, including supermarket giant 1,200-seat multiplex movie theater and food court, ice deuleoseol plans.

Shopping Center is a world famous architect, interior designer luxury engineered inteonaesyeonyeol peumimieopgeup pull over to the mall. American architect Daniel Liberia, the global skin care update is designed to take away the unique exterior schematic. Liberia Showtime Busan Haeundae Marin City Skins' children Haeundae Parks' design, known as domestic.

It's just part of the retail business partner Songdo International Asia teobeumeon said, "Unlike the open spaces of the world famous department store brands are individual stores ipjeom independence," "shopping and entertainment, a place to enjoy the leisure to develop a space plan , "he said.

Teobeumeoneun Meanwhile, in 1950, founded the company as the world's third largest mall development migukgye buy votes. Listed on the New York Stock Exchange teobeumeon Center, 11 weeks in the United States with the highest sales myeonjeokdang 23 operating shopping centers.

[Svajoklis]

Originally Posted by princeofseoul

Korean cities are not developed based on the american model at all. They are developed based on the Paris/Moscow model with lots of commie blocks, medium-high to high population density typically in the range 6,000-15,000 persons per km2 and excellent public transportation.

Japanese cities are similar to scandinavian cities with mostly 2 story houses, low-to-medium population density typically ranging between 1800 and 5500 persons per km2 and where a car or a bike is generally required to live comfortably.


Japanese cities are more pedestrian friendly and have a nicer ambience than Korean cities? This depends how "pedestrian friendly" and "nicer ambience" are defined (i.e. your own preferences). If you prefer a paris-like highly-urban environment with lots of people, neons, shops, bars, accessible on foot from your apartment then Korea is for you without doubt. On the other hand, if you prefer a quiet scandinavian somewhat countryside environment with the occasional power mall, then Japan will certainly suit you better.

I was mainly talking about infrastructure; however you raised a good point about housing too - the tower blocks in Korea were built along similar lines to the newer districts in the Banlieue of Paris and the outskirts of Moscow. In Paris these districts are the scenes of many social ills and much unrest such as riots, in which the inhabitants of these districts frequently destroy parts of their own neighbourhood, so little regard to they have for it. In Moscow the endless rows of Commieblocks are exceedingly bleak, and such horrific architecture blights the outskirts of every single city in Moscow. In Korea, perhaps uniquely in the world, they seem to have adopted the tower block model without the social ills that go with it elsewhere (for instance, middle class families actually wanting to live in tower blocks!); however, architecturally speaking, many of these repetitive towers ruin the outskirts of Korean cities (or even the centre, in the case of places like Yeouido). It is good to see therefore that some of the newer jobs have slightly more imaginative designs and are less uniform. Of course, were it not for these tower blocks then Seoul would have long ago sprawled to cover the entire Korean peninsula!

However, your comparison between Korea and Japan is simply wrong. To say "If you prefer a paris-like highly-urban environment with lots of people, neons, shops, bars, accessible on foot from your apartment then Korea is for you without doubt." is perhaps accurate in some cases, although it rings true to a much greater extent for Japan. Japan is without a doubt considerably more pedestrian friendly than Korea - this attested to by the fact that in Japan there are far fewer cars on the road: Seoul, with 10 million people, has 2.2 million cars; Tokyo, with 12 million people, has only 500,000. In Tokyo, and other Japanese cities, the traffic is calmer and more orderly than the manic traffic in Seoul, and as a result there are more cyclists, the air-quality is better, and the sidewalks/pavements are quieter, less polluted and more conducive to walking. And if I had to compare either city to Paris (as you do), then Tokyo, with tree lined avenues such as Omotesando and elegant thoroughfares such as Ginza is definitely more similar in terms of ambience, compared to Seoul where most of the action is on the backstreets (away from the cars!). And if I had to compare either country to Scandinavia, I would definitely say neither of them are particularly similar!! "if you prefer a quiet scandinavian somewhat countryside environment" then I would say Japan is probably one of the last places you would want to go!

As a case in point, look at the rendering above of the shopping mall. That road in the middle has - count 'em - TEN lanes!!! How on earth is a person meant to cross that? Who wants to walk besides ten lanes of roaring traffic? The fact that there has to be a bridge over the road shows that they're acknowledging the fact that no one would walk across such a gargantuan street with their children, and certainly no one would like to walk alongside it, or maybe stop for a patbingsu or some tteokbokki on a bench. Such bleak thoroughfares remind me of the eerily deserted, agoraphobically-wide streets of Pyeongyang. At least in Pyeongyang there isn't the roar and pollution of traffic! My prediction is that this poorly planned 'ubiquitous city' will be entirely devoid of any Korean character and will never have any of the vibrancy of areas like Myeongdong, Sinchon, Hongdae etc.

[princeofseoul]

^ As of 2004, the Tokyo prefecture has 3.21 million privately-owned passenger cars excluding two-wheel vehicles, trucks, and buses according to the Japan Statistical Yearbook --- NOT 500,000 as you claim.

The rest of your post is equally as misleading, loaded up with selective facts or downright erroneous statements. I prefer to refrain from pursuing this discussion.

[Mussoda]

@ Svajoklis
lol.. such "agoraphobically-wide streets" seem to be a trend in East Asian New emerging cities including chinese. and We also can't reduce cars ! Actually any regulations barring cars out the core of city such as of Tokyo seem hard to adopt in seoul..
Anyway, Seoul city goverment has drawn many new policies for ambience or amenities of pedestrian friendly way lately. and seoul changes day by day. Expect it!

[Svajoklis]

Originally Posted by Mussoda

@ Svajoklis
lol.. such "agoraphobically-wide streets" seem to be a trend in East Asian New emerging cities including chinese.

Unfortunately you are right, for reasons I will never understand...

nd We also can't reduce cars ! Actually any regulations barring cars out the core of city such as of Tokyo seem hard to adopt in seoul..

It's far within the realms of possibility. I heard that the Seoul Metropolitan government was discussing the prospect of introducing a congestion charge in Seoul as in London. Such a scheme has been really successful here in reducing congestion in Central London. Expansion of the Metro will also have the effect of lessening the number of cars on the road.

Anyway, Seoul city goverment has drawn many new policies for ambience or amenities of pedestrian friendly way lately. and seoul changes day by day. Expect it!

Yes, there have been many encouraging steps, most notably (as I mentioned above) the demolishment of the Cheonggyecheon overpass which was a very brave decision, that may have had some opposition at the time, but I think very few people regret it now. Seoul is definitely moving in the right direction!

[sushibricks]

Seoul actually gets more than 2.2 million cars during the day and on the week days due to so many cars coming in from the metropolitan area.

The number of car that commutes around and in and out of Seoul ranges between a minimum of 3 million to 6 million cars at maximum (Uncertainty +- 1 mil).

There are several reasons to why Seoul has bad traffic.

One of the major reasons is that Seoul tends to build a specific, dense region of commie blocks, where astronomical numbers of office buildings are crowded into a small space with limited road space. In addition, most of the commuters tend to head the same direction, aggravating the already-bad traffic congestion.

This is also why some roads in Seoul are not congested at all.

I think it would be easier to use Simcity 4 as an example. If you've played this game, you would notice that the sims would use certain roads to commute, causing major congestions on the same roads in a staright line or somewhat like that.

Seoul also has a similar situation.

In addition, Seoul could be compared to LA when speaking of the volume of cars that pour into Seoul.

Over 7 million cars commute around and in Los Angeles (sources come from Discovery Channel and News, and I clearly remember the number properly).

Japan is a little different. (Speaking of Tokyo especially)

I highly noticed that Tokyo has many office buildings spread all over the city unlike Seoul.

In addition, many people also use bicycles in Japan, where as in Korea (Seoul), this is not possible for some reasons:
1. Limited space/land
2. Difficult planning

It's very difficult to construct several things in Seoul because it is so densely populated.

My informatoin does not come from personal opinion except for that observation I have made in Tokyo.

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