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Old July 26th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #181
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Well, they're talking about implementing a new tolling system in the Netherlands which can cost a commuter over € 1100 per year. How about that.
sound like chaos on the other streets if they really realize it.

no matter for the few percent rich, but all other people

nearly one month per year work to be able to drive on the highway
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Old July 26th, 2008, 12:18 PM   #182
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sound like chaos on the other streets if they really realize it.
nope.
there is no "other street" in NL. there are only motorways...
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Old July 26th, 2008, 12:19 PM   #183
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Exactly. That's why our motorways are so busy. However, this is about Switzerland, where the motorways are generally not that busy. I believe the most travelled section in near Zürich.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #184
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specially in Swiss they know, that everything they DON´T build could help preventing from international traffic.
nope.
"not to build" means not prevention, it means JAMs...
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Old July 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #185
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or the triangle, bern - basel - Zürich

a view important exits to other swiss towns are there
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Old July 26th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #186
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maybe switzerland is right.

maybe we (hungary) should do the same:
- step out from the EU and impose huge tolls on transit trucks.

we are also an unavoidable (or at least hardly avoidable) transit country, it would be a nice income to the budget...
oh, you have a sort of it. Hungarian border procedures are often impossible for lorries. why - i don't know, but drivers from my firm hate to drive through Hungary because of procedures
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Old July 26th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #187
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you are non EU members, so we can torture your truckers...

but we are impotent against our EU member friends, we have to let them through on our country without stopping and only for a 13 eur daily vignette...

So switcherland has a much better position: in the middle of the EU as a non EU member they can get an enormous amount rip-off from the transit traffic...
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Old July 26th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #188
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you are non EU members, so we can torture your truckers...
yeah i hope not for long
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Old July 26th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #189
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wow. that was a light speed answer...
Less than two minutes.

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(but we are EU members, Switz is not. what will brussel say?)
Until you preside EU, you can't afford it. But I don't think we'll ever see Hungary presiding EU, despite the Irish saying NO. Czech Republic probably yes, but Hungary, I doubt.

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or the triangle, bern - basel - Zürich

a view important exits to other swiss towns are there
The absolutely highest AADT is west of Zurich, but it used to be east of Basel until they opened a new motorway bridge to Germany west of Rheinfelden.
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 01:42 PM   #190
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Hello

Have anyone a idea, when they will renew the highway A1 between "Affoltern, Regensdorf"---->"Glattbrugg"?

The lane is very damaged on both direction. Now they have made max 100kmh limit.

Here is the highway i mean

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Old August 3rd, 2008, 08:17 PM   #191
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They want to build a third lane in each direction, but the project isn't anywhere near to the building phase. But probably they won't do anything before this issue is sorted out.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #192
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Some articles about rail, road, water and service tunnels: http://www.lombardi.ch/publications/?ID=1&menu=pub
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The Gotthard road tunnel will close in 2018 for about a year, or during the summer of more years, when the pass road is open. Shuttle trains will be reactivated.
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Schweizer wollen zweite Gotthardröhre

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Befragt wurden 504 Personen.
Hmm, that's not really much, but they call it representative....
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Old August 17th, 2008, 11:23 PM   #195
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Every summer and every important holiday there are several km of queues, and as usual someone call for a second tunnel.
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 11:10 AM   #196
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As said, in 2020 the Gotthard tunnel will be closed for renovation, and the new rail tunnel opened freeing capacity on the old railway.

A shuttle train can carry about 50 cars.

With a train every 7.5 minutes per direction, from 7 to 21, there can be up to 224 trains or 11.200 cars.

And it is possible to divert traffic to the the San Bernardino tunnel (AADT 6200), Gran San Bernardo tunnel or Simplon Pass, or even the Gotthard Pass itself.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #197
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I have uploaded about 200 Pics from Swiss Highways:

http://www.swiss-pics.ch/thumbnails.php?album=42

Speedcam in the Middle :-)


















To see them in HQ go here: http://www.swiss-pics.ch/thumbnails.php?album=42

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Old August 29th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #198
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Love the sound barriers. Looks like a brand new road.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #199
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Swiss motorways look narrow...
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Swiss motorways look narrow...

Well we have not that much place here :-)
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