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Old April 3rd, 2013, 03:05 PM   #2301
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I have rarely seen them elsewhere - but maybe it's just because I mostly travel by public transport thus without looking at traffic signals.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 12:53 PM   #2302
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I'm planning a roadtrip Milan-Zurich for the next 1st May. I've some questions:

- which route is faster from Altdorf on? A2 (longer but all on motorways) or A4 (shorter but partly on normal roads)?
- should I expect queues at St. Gotthard tunnel, considering that 1st May is a holiday both in Italy and Switzerland?

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Old April 10th, 2013, 01:00 PM   #2303
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TCS expects normal traffic on May 1.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 01:16 PM   #2304
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A4 is faster.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:13 PM   #2305
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995 million CHF for motorway widenings

The Bundesrat has approved financing of 995 million CHF to widen three key stretches of motorway in Switzerland.

The largest project is the widening of A1 between Luterbach (A5) and Härkingen (A2), which is currently one of the busiest 4-lane motorways in Switzerland with 85 000 vehicles per day.

Another large project is the twinning of A4 between Andelfingen and A1 near Winterthur to 4 lanes.

The third and smallest project is the widening of A1 near the airport of Genève. Details of this project are unclear to me, because 50 million CHF doesn't buy a whole lot of new lanes.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #2306
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The largest project is the widening of A1 between Luterbach (A5) and Härkingen (A2)
What about Härkingen-Wiggertal (A1/A2)?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #2307
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That is already under construction. It should be completed next year.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:53 PM   #2308
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The third and smallest project is the widening of A1 near the airport of Genève. Details of this project are unclear to me, because 50 million CHF doesn't buy a whole lot of new lanes.
Maybe they mean just widenings between some interchanges. Part of A1 near airport is already 3+2 and space is really limited there.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:57 PM   #2309
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What about Härkingen-Wiggertal (A1/A2)?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #2310
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I like the far extents the Swiss and Germans go to not reduce lane count during roadworks, something that is much more rare in Spain and, to an extent, Italy.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 11:54 PM   #2311
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It's interesting that the motorway section Härkingen-Oensingen is busier than Härkingen-Rothrist (not as busy as Rothrist-Wiggertal though). Apparently more people coming from Basel turn towards Bern than Luzern, which shows again that local traffic is usually heavier than transit traffic.

EDIT: apparently data show the section Oensingen-Niederbipp, not Härkingen-Oensingen

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Old April 11th, 2013, 03:48 PM   #2312
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Apparently more people coming from Basel turn towards Bern than Luzern, which shows again that local traffic is usually heavier than transit traffic.
Many French drive through Switzerland from Alsace to the Geneva area, so in this direction there's also a lot of transit traffic.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:04 PM   #2313
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Many French drive through Switzerland from Alsace to the Geneva area, so in this direction there's also a lot of transit traffic.
I've never thought of that actually, because Geneva is in Switzerland, so I don't really think of transit. Actually, if we talk about transit as excluding Switzerland, then the A1 itself (unlike A2) isn't particularly transit (France to Austria), but it's without doubt the main Swiss artery.
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Sorry, I wrote it wrong/bad. They actually leave Switzerland again and go to France (to the area near Geneva).
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Oh ok, that makes sense as well.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 07:40 PM   #2316
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Transit traffic is usually overestimated. Like those people complaining about speeders in their street, they usually turn out to be nearby residents.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 09:10 PM   #2317
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People in my town (Pfäffikon) are always arguing that the closing of the gap of the A53 would reduce traffic here. But the specialists say it won't, or only by a few percent. Locals totally overestimate the transit here.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #2318
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Do you know what they planned here at Effretikon? There is a half stack interchange with A1 that soon narrows to a regular two-lane road.

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Or here.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 10:11 AM   #2320
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Second one looks like a possible beginning of A53. First one looks like a planned motorway to merge with A53 south of Wetzikon or at east end of Obersee.
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