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Old August 22nd, 2014, 04:04 AM   #2741
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Do they have plans for an A6 link with A16 with some Bienne bypass?
It is shown at openstreetmap.org
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 11:30 AM   #2742
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It is 8.8 km long and includes a 3 km single tube tunnel,
So the tunnel is single tube? On Openstreetmap it is shown as two tubes, and satellite images seem to show two portals at each end.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 11:42 AM   #2743
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So the tunnel is single tube? On Openstreetmap it is shown as two tubes, and satellite images seem to show two portals at each end.
Maybe one is an escape tube?
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:21 PM   #2744
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There are two portals, but one traffic tube:
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:31 PM   #2745
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Ah, I see.
Thanks.

It seemed odd, but then again, it's Switzerland. Why use two things when you can build two and use one?
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:37 PM   #2746
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These are the 2013 traffic volumes on A16. It's no A1 obviously, but it's not entirely deserted either. Many countries are building motorways for this kind of traffic volumes, though one could argue the A16 funding (more than € 5 billion) would've been better value for money on the Bern - Zürich corridor.



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Switzerland has a pretty robust traffic growth though. Quite a bit of stretches have a 2-3% traffic growth, year-on-year. The busiest motorway in Switzerland is A1 east of Zürich with 142,000 vehicles per day.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 07:42 PM   #2747
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Switzerland currently has one of the fastest growing populations in Western Europe therefore everything associated with it grows too. Traffic growth, train usage growth, building boom etc.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 08:40 PM   #2748
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I'm surprised that Switzerland is so overpopulated comparing to Austria. Here in Tirol there is not a lot there because of the mountains. But Switzerland has mountains...
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 08:57 PM   #2749
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I'm surprised that Switzerland is so overpopulated comparing to Austria. Here in Tirol there is not a lot there because of the mountains. But Switzerland has mountains...
Almost double 198 vs 101 people per square kilometre (including mountains). Actually a bit surprising to me too, I thought there are more people in Austria.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 09:20 PM   #2750
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Austria is twice as big as Switzerland.

I noticed many people perceive the Swiss vignette to be very expensive. They probably have a problem dishing out that kind of money at once and compare it to the Austrian vignette. But they forget you can do a return trip on one Swiss vignette, while in Austria you usually require two for a holiday in Italy, plus the additional tolls on many transalpine routes.

A typical return trip through Switzerland (Basel - Chiasso) is 600 kilometers. Try driving 600 kilometers on a French toll road and see how much that will cost you...
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 09:50 PM   #2751
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Lyon to Marseille and back = roughly same distance, roundtrip = 49€

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And you don't require two Austrian vignettes for a holiday in Italy. 10 day vignette is roughly 10€, 2 month vignette 25€ and a year vignette 80€. Swiss vignette 40€.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 10:04 PM   #2752
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I wonder how long it would take to go from Basel to Italy via Switzerland without using motorways. It could be an interesting ride although of course much slower and might be feasible only in summer.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 10:08 PM   #2753
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Well, let's say spring and autumn. Nothing worse than being stuck behind German tourists or Dutch caravans...
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 01:42 AM   #2754
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I wonder how long it would take to go from Basel to Italy via Switzerland without using motorways. It could be an interesting ride although of course much slower and might be feasible only in summer.
You would probably use Gotthard pass,which is the best pass in my opinion.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 04:03 AM   #2755
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Road no. 28 from Zernez to the border crossing for Livigno (I).
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4. Oncoming cars obediently move to the far right as the bus is manoeuvered through the curves



5. There are straight stretches! (and tourist caravans overtaken by the time-tabled bus)



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7. Border is not far ahead (pics in the borders thread).
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Old August 24th, 2014, 06:14 PM   #2756
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Good, now there are just 2 sections remaining.

Do they have plans for an A6 link with A16 with some Bienne bypass?
Plans? It's under construction.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 07:37 PM   #2757
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Plans? It's under construction.
Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I wanted to ask when will the remaining 2 sections be completed.
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You asked about plans
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Old August 24th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #2759
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Good, now there are just 2 sections remaining.
Do they have plans for an A6 link with A16 with some Bienne bypass?
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Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I wanted to ask when will the remaining 2 sections be completed.


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A16: Delemont-East – Choindez 1 ?km (? to Late 2016) – projectmap
A16: Court – Loveresse 1 ?km (? to Late 2016) – projectmap
A5: Biel-Port – Biel-East 12 4.9km (December 2007 to 2017) – projectmap
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Old August 24th, 2014, 08:22 PM   #2760
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The remaining section linking the two parts of A5 is even farther away in the future (2030 at the earliest), and it would mainly be 1x2. As every new project it depens on the (hypothetical) new road fund.

The upgrade/new construction to motorway or just autostrasse for the road along lake Biel-Bienne is not even planned.
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