[CH] Swiss highways and motorways - Page 4

***GENIUS LOCI*** · April 9th, 2008, 07:57 PM

The shuttle-train for cars of Simplon tunnel

http://www.drogocrans.ch/horaires_de...transport_.htm

A not yet refurbished one

The tunnel

***ChrisZwolle*** · April 9th, 2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by radi6404

The lanes somehow look narrow, why that? I even think they are dangerously narrow, I would be affraid to drive on such narrow motorways.

They seem pretty standard width to me. Remember this is a high mountain road, and not some kind of ordinary highway across valleys

Verso · April 10th, 2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GENIUS LOCI

Actually I prefere to go by Grand St. Bernard tunnel

That's another option, but the tunnel is very expensive, whereas the pass is very long and slow.

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Originally Posted by GENIUS LOCI

Anyway if you don't want to drive on Simplon pass (often closed in winther)

Really? I thought it was open all the time.

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Originally Posted by GENIUS LOCI

Many years since last time I've been there, but I don't remember Domodossola-Simplon expressway that bad... surely it is an old expressway, while Domodossola-Sesto Calende highway (on Western coast of Lago Maggiore) is quite new and good for sure

I'm talking about the expressway SS33 between Domodossola and the A26 motorway. Actually it's not expressway and the speed limit is just 90 km/h (rightfully!), but it's 4-laned. It's also been some four years since I last drove there, but the pavement was absolutely awful. You couldn't drive more than 100 km/h. But the A26 motorway was fine.

***GENIUS LOCI*** · April 10th, 2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Verso

Really? I thought it was open all the time.

Actually it is, but when it snows a lot you ought to have chains or even they can close it

***ChrisZwolle*** · April 13th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Bernina Pass 2.328m

The Bernina pass runs from the vicinty of St Moritz to the Italian border region near Tirano. The pass is 2.328 meters high, and is considered one of the most beautiful in the Alps.

Pics from north to south.

***ChrisZwolle*** · June 17th, 2008, 10:49 PM

Splügenpass

Timon91 · June 17th, 2008, 11:04 PM

Great pic! You don't want to have a crash over there.

***earthJoker*** · June 20th, 2008, 12:18 PM

I drove the Splügen once, this part is quite friendly comparing to the Italian side. Where you have tunnels with no light and roads along of cliffs.

***ChrisZwolle*** · June 20th, 2008, 01:20 PM

Yeah, I've got the idea Switzerland has generally much safer roads than Italy.

***earthJoker*** · June 24th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Which is not that hard.

***ChrisZwolle*** · June 28th, 2008, 12:47 PM

Currently 3 hour delays at the southbound A2 before the Gotthard tunnel.

***ChrisZwolle*** · June 28th, 2008, 12:48 PM

Currently 3 hour delays at the southbound A2 before the Gotthard tunnel.

Timon91 · June 29th, 2008, 09:06 AM

Holiday traffic?

thun · June 29th, 2008, 10:18 AM

Sure.

Timon91 · June 29th, 2008, 04:37 PM

How do they regulate this tunnel? Some people say that it's just 1 lane per direction, others say that they swap every time so you have 2 lanes for 1 direction, and 0 for the other direction.

***ChrisZwolle*** · June 29th, 2008, 05:00 PM

Blockabfertigung.

To avoid traffic jams in the tunnel, they let the traffic through in groups. It's obvious that it's better to construct a second tube. But the Swiss choose to build a longer Gotthard railway tunnel.

Verso · June 29th, 2008, 05:45 PM

Yes, outrageous, if you ask me. They can build an almost 60-km railway tunnel, but not a 17-km road tunnel, which is much more needed IMO.

Timon91 · June 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Luckily we don't have these problems in the Netherlands

Verso · June 29th, 2008, 08:35 PM

^ You may not have these problems in the Netherlands, but you have them if you go to the seaside in Italy. :P

Jeroen669 · June 29th, 2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Timon Kruijk

Luckily we don't have these problems in the Netherlands

You'd think? We've built for billions of euros a HSR with eg a 7km tunnel, but we can't fill a 7km gap on one of dutch busiest motorways.

April 9th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#61
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*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 29,000 Likes (Received): 635	Bernina Pass 2.328m The Bernina pass runs from the vicinty of St Moritz to the Italian border region near Tirano. The pass is 2.328 meters high, and is considered one of the most beautiful in the Alps. Pics from north to south. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

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June 20th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#68
*earthJoker* Ölminator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Zürich Posts: 2,572 Likes (Received): 118	I drove the Splügen once, this part is quite friendly comparing to the Italian side. Where you have tunnels with no light and roads along of cliffs. __________________ See you in the Swiss Forum on skyscrapercity.com

June 20th, 2008, 01:20 PM	#69
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 29,000 Likes (Received): 635	Yeah, I've got the idea Switzerland has generally much safer roads than Italy. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

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*earthJoker* Ölminator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Zürich Posts: 2,572 Likes (Received): 118	Which is not that hard. __________________ See you in the Swiss Forum on skyscrapercity.com

June 28th, 2008, 12:47 PM	#71
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 29,000 Likes (Received): 635	Currently 3 hour delays at the southbound A2 before the Gotthard tunnel. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

June 28th, 2008, 12:48 PM	#72
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 29,000 Likes (Received): 635	Currently 3 hour delays at the southbound A2 before the Gotthard tunnel. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

June 29th, 2008, 09:06 AM	#73
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June 29th, 2008, 10:18 AM	#74
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June 29th, 2008, 04:37 PM	#75
Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	How do they regulate this tunnel? Some people say that it's just 1 lane per direction, others say that they swap every time so you have 2 lanes for 1 direction, and 0 for the other direction. __________________ My Flickr account. Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.

June 29th, 2008, 05:00 PM	#76
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 29,000 Likes (Received): 635	Blockabfertigung. To avoid traffic jams in the tunnel, they let the traffic through in groups. It's obvious that it's better to construct a second tube. But the Swiss choose to build a longer Gotthard railway tunnel. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

June 29th, 2008, 05:45 PM	#77
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,480 Likes (Received): 550	Yes, outrageous, if you ask me. They can build an almost 60-km railway tunnel, but not a 17-km road tunnel, which is much more needed IMO. __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

June 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM	#78
Timon91 Error Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: just outside Germany Posts: 5,780 Likes (Received): 0	Luckily we don't have these problems in the Netherlands __________________ My Flickr account. Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.

June 29th, 2008, 08:35 PM	#79
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,480 Likes (Received): 550	^ You may not have these problems in the Netherlands, but you have them if you go to the seaside in Italy. :P __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

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