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Old July 17th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #861
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Underground roundabout u/c in Bern:


In the future the surface will be used for trams.
Here is a (low quality) vid:
http://www.wankdorfplatz.ch/index.php?page=762
You can see the roundabout at around 3:30.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 12:02 PM   #863
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Sunday 11 am: 3 km jam southbound, nothing northbound.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #864
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Sunday 3 pm: 3 km/30 minutes jam in both directions
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Old July 18th, 2010, 08:36 PM   #865
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Sunday 7 pm: 2 km jam northbound only
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Old July 18th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #866
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Why nearly nobody looks for alternatives?
Why the hell the Swiss haven't build a second tube for the important Gotthard tunnel ? It would have saved a lot of unnecessary emissions and got more Francs for roadtolls. Above that the tunnel would be much safer.

No, you built a new train tunnel.
How stupid a country can be ??
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Old July 18th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #867
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and got more Francs for roadtolls
No because private cars would still pay 25-30 €/year for the vignette.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 10:06 AM   #868
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Currently 3 hours 45 minutes waiting time at the Gotthard tunnel.
The same hour (9 - 10 am) two days later (monday), no queue.

Edit 1: no queue at 9, some at 10.

Edit 2: 2 km queque southbound at 11:20

Edit 3: 4 km and 1h waiting time at 13:00 southbound, 2 km northbound

Edit 4: 4 km and 1h waiting time at 16:00 southbound
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:13 PM   #869
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No more queues, but saturday there were 14 km at the border towards Italy.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #870
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What is up with those border traffic jams? I thought Switzerland entered Schengen?
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:02 PM   #871
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There are only 2 lanes opened in both directions out of 12, sometimes 3. Polciemen usually only wave drivers to pass, and stop randomly.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #872
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Why don't they open all the lanes? This is just stupidity, check efficiently, or don't check at all. Other countries use mobile surveillance teams to stop suspicious vehicles (I was stopped two times in Schengen )
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Old July 21st, 2010, 05:06 PM   #873
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Stupidity? Laziness? Less policemen to pay? I dont'know.

To be honest, two lanes are reserved for empty trucks (loaded trucks have their separate border custom). But there are at least four more, unused, empty lanes (in both directions).

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The northbound tube of the Stalvedro tunnel (the one just before the Gotthard tunnel on the southern side) will be enlarged to insert a shoulder lane. The works costing 14 millions CHF will start in 2012. This will allow the passage of emergency vehicles even with queue.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 11:33 AM   #874
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Don't know if this has been posted before:
AADT for swiss national roads since 2002.
http://www.astra.admin.ch/verkehrsda...x.html?lang=de

Highest in 2009 was 138'900 at the Brüttiseller Kreuz north of Zurich.
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Old July 27th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #875
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What is up with those border traffic jams? I thought Switzerland entered Schengen?
The Swiss have entered Schengen, but not the European Union. So freedom of movement of persons: yes. But freedom of movement of goods: no. Hence the permanent control on border posts like Chiasso and Basel. Which obviously also is a good means of checking whether foreign cars / motorists have their vignette. It is a somewhat cynical method of showing your power. If I was a smugglar, I'd use one of the many crossings that appear to be more or less unattended. At Chiasso, it always seems to be quicker to take the exit, then the one-lane border crossing in Chiasso itself and then quickly back onto the motorway.

Back to a happier topic, here are some pictures of the A2 between Chiasso and the Gotthard tunnel. Available in a larger format at my Panoramio page.



















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Old August 17th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #876
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Video:
From La Chaux-de-Fonds to Luterbach / Autobahn A16/ A5 /A1 Switzerland / 08.2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMwNIlTR82k

Route on Google Map: http://tinyurl.com/chauxfonds-luterbach
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 06:54 PM   #877
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A few things I notice in Switzerland:

* Lots of police present on the roads, some serious patrolling, an art lost in the Netherlands.
* Car dealers are everywhere. Every larger town has at least a dozen car dealers, but also in villages.
* The Swiss seem to prefer Japanese cars. Most prominently Subaru, a car type not very common in other European countries. (at least not as much). Probably because most, if not all Subaru's are 4WD.
* Parking fees are also everywhere, although they're not always very high. You can only enter Saas-Fee through a parking garage, the only road to the village simply ends in a parking garage before the entrance of the village.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:25 PM   #878
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Diesel-powered vehicles have been banned from Saas-Fee and Zermatt so even residents have to park their vehicle outside the village. The difference is that in Zermatt the parking is 6 km far from the village that is reachable by train (residents have a parking nearer to the village, but still outside it). Only small battery powered vehicles are allowed, except for emergencies and a a few services like garbage collection.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:34 PM   #879
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Why only diesel-powered vehicles? Is it because of the PM10 pollution? And what if a diesel car has the Diesel Particulate Filter?
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:58 PM   #880
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Actually all private traffic is forbidden, so certainly also tradional battery-powered cars. Only small battery vehicles expressly built for Zermatt, Saas Fee and similar villages can be used like these:



Source http://www.nationalcorridors.org/df2/df11032008.shtml



Source http://www.beautynewsnyc.com/travel/...att-to-geneva/

Another one:

http://www.tuttotrasporti.it/mondo_c...?codice=197079

http://www.tuttotrasporti.it/mondo_c...n/articolo.cfm
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