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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:19 PM   #941
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The Novena/Nufenen pass connect Valais and Ticino/Tessin cantons. Valais and Wallis are the same canton, one is the french word, the other the german's. This road was opened around 1963 and is opened only during the summer, but not always (just a few years ago it was closed in July because of...heavy snowfall).

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nufenen_Pass
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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:20 PM   #942
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By the way, I saw Nufenen signed as Nufenen most of the time in Ticino. Novena was only used on a few signs.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #943
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Touristic route to Fafleralp. If you like snow-capped mountains, check this video for sure!

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Old October 5th, 2010, 07:00 PM   #944
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Hello, Ive made some 3D Models for Google Earth Highways in Switzerland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv-lR_c_cPw
Hope the Models appears next week in Google Earth.

Please rate the video and leave a comment :-)
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Old October 5th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #945
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Hello, Ive made some 3D Models for Google Earth Highways in Switzerland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv-lR_c_cPw
Hope the Models appears next week in Google Earth.

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Old October 5th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #946
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Some statistics about queues and traffic (PDF file only in German): http://www.astra.admin.ch/dokumentat...e&msg-id=35087
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Old October 14th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #947
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Works started for the construction of the service and safety tunnel of the Great San Bernard tunnel: http://www.tunnelbuilder.it/RELAZION...ITA_011010.pdf (only in Italian)
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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:47 AM   #948
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The A4 widening to a 2x2 "miniautobahn" (expressway) will be completed on October 22nd, 2010.

This is the road from Winterthur to Schaffhausen in Northern Switzerland.

http://www.news.admin.ch/dokumentati...e&msg-id=35603
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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:52 AM   #949
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The A4 widening to a 2x2 "miniautobahn" (expressway)
What exactly do you mean by "miniautobahn"? I've never heard such a term (nor did I know the A4 was being widened).
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It's a term invented by the Swiss. It's actually just a scaled-down version of the Autobahn, hence expressway. I doubt if there is much visual difference, some Autoroutes in Suisse have no shoulders (A16 for instance).
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Old October 15th, 2010, 01:25 AM   #951
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It doesn't have shoulders and only the northern part of the "motorway" between Andelfingen and Schaffhausen has been widened. Between Andelfingen and Winterthur it is still 1x2 but it will be widened in the future (works will not start before 2015).

http://www.miniautobahn.ch/

http://www.miniautobahn-fest.ch/

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Am 22. Oktober 2010 wird die Miniautobahn im Rahmen eines kleinen Festes für die Bevölkerung der Region durch Bundesrat Moritz Leuenberger, Vorsteher des eidgenössischen Departements für Umwelt, Verkehr, Energie und Kommunikation (UVEK), dem Verkehr übergeben. Der Anlass in Kleinandelfingen ist öffentlich und kostenlos zugänglich. Es wird empfohlen, zur Anreise die öffentlichen Verkehrsmittel zu benutzen (Shuttlebus ab Bahnhof Marthalen).
...it is suggested to use public transport
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Old October 15th, 2010, 05:10 AM   #952
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Which sign will be used on this "Miniautobahn"?

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Old October 15th, 2010, 10:08 AM   #953
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In Switzerland main roads are divided in three types and administrated by the central or the cantonal government. You can see a summary (in French) here: http://autoroutes.suisse.free.fr/ ==> Types de routes

First Class (motorways, like A1 and A2):
- 2 carriageways
- no level crossings
- usually with shoulders
- at least 2 lanes per direction
- reserved to motorized vehicles

Second Class (expressways, like A13):
- sometimes 2 carriageways
- no level crossings
- sometimes with shoulders
- reserved to motorized vehicles

Third Class (main national roads, like A28):
- few access from other roads
- if possible they don't cross villages
- usually same level crossings
- usually without shoulders

The same motorway can belong to different categories on different parts (like the A13).

As for the A4, I don't know. Today is certainly a second class road. Now it can be considered either a downgraded first class road (no choulders) or an upgraded second class (2x2 lanes).
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Old October 15th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #954
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...it is suggested to use public transport
Isn't it policy to suggest this by default? I know in the Netherlands where they give free public transport passes to commuters during roadworks, even though the amount of people who use them is not more than a few hundred (out of 150.000 daily users).

It's the same with those P+R locations, an ANWB survey in the Netherlands found out only a few were actually heavily used, most of them were often over 50% empty and carpool areas are also consistently underused. It usually turns out that you have 5 carpool areas with 5 - 20 parked cars each, say 80 vehicles less on 80.000 vehicles per day.

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Old October 15th, 2010, 11:37 AM   #955
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Isn't it policy to suggest this by default?
Usually when there are public festivities it is always suggested to use public transport.

In my city (Lugano, 100.000) inhabitants there are two small park&ride linked only by bus (300-400 places each) always full, also with people working nearby but not only. That's not much and Lugano is really car-dependant, but on other cities like Bern and Zürich car usage is much lowe and only 30 to 40% of trips inside the city are made by car. Between them rail share is around 80%. Going back to Lugano there are no wide roads and the city centre is small, so even if it is a small city it would be better if more people use public transport. Geography isn't easy as the few plain terrains have already been built up, so most new homes have been built on hills or mountains.

Swiss uses much trains and buses, that have around 25% of the passenger traffic and 45% of freight traffic (considering only internal freight traffic, rail has around 30%). The modal split for freight is comparable to the Netherlands, replacing the word "railways" with "waterways".
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I am wondering if all those tourist trains and buses are taken into the account of the Swiss modal split. Do you have any knowledge about that? The tourist trains and buses are often jam-packed.
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They certainly are, but tourist trains are a little part of total traffic, and most of them are part of the public transport network (that is, accessible with any normal ticket or pass). There are few pure touristic railways, if one even if carrying mainly tourists also links villages it is not considered touristic and can have acces to subsidies (from the central government, only if it has a minimum level of traffic).

Most traffic comes from intercity and rural-to-city trips, and there railways perform quite well (Gotthard railway: 50% of passengers and 66% of freights, Simplon-Lötschberg even more as there is no motorway there).
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(Gotthard railway: 50% of passengers and 66% of freights)
In rough numbers; the equivalent of 5.000 individuals (10.000 travellers) or the equivalent of 4.000 trucks per day. Not all that much, it sounds more in percentages than it actually is.

Approximately 3.600 trucks use the Gotthard tunnel daily. That sounds much, but it isn't, it's comparable with a low-trafficked motorway of 20.000 vpd and a moderate truck share (LT/HT) of 15%. 3.600 trucks is the same as 1 truck per minute each direction on average. Hardly the advertised "truck avalanche".

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The modal split for freight is comparable to the Netherlands, replacing the word "railways" with "waterways".
I agree. Bulk freight and containers are generally transported by ship or rail in the Netherlands. I am actually rather sceptic about the shift that is predicted from road to rail freight. Some products are more convenient / efficient to ship by rail than the other, but many people see this in black and white: OR rail OR road. It's much more diverse than that.
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3.600 daily trucks are not much compared to other roads like the Dutch A15 (20.000 trucks I think), but 40 km of continuos slopes up to 5% in parts is not really like a flat and wide plain. And these trucks mostly are not for local traffic so trains can be an alternative.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 06:26 PM   #960
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Exactly 578.000 out of 973.000 trucks that used the road tunnel in 2008 were only transiting (origin and destination both outside Switzerland). The others 395.000 were for internal or import-export traffic.
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