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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #1281
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Come to my friend's garage. It's so steep that I bump my car in the floor. Are you sure about 30/33%? It's said that the Ljubelj Pass in Slovenia is the steepest in the Alps with over 28%.

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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:09 PM   #1282
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Here a few pictures - i drive´d it 2010 - till then my biggest climb was at the St.Magdalena Saline near Hall/Tirol with 32%(2002)










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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:14 PM   #1283
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:18 PM   #1284
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The real problem is that it is a very tight road but NOT one way,every second somebody could drive the down way and kick you away
i would like to know who could drive up on a bicycle - 2.5km with such climb rates
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Old April 13th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #1285
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Its for 26 tonne trucks, but it is not a road. Source: http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/view...p?f=51&t=12050

Location: http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=q&sourc...77162&t=h&z=14

(the other cabin is for passengers, the ropeway is opened to the public in summer, otherwise only to workers)

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Old May 1st, 2011, 10:53 AM   #1286
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Gotthard, Splügen and Frocola di Livigno passes have been reopened yesterday. For the Gotthard pass a reopening in April is a record, it never happened in the last 50 years.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 02:57 PM   #1287
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Does that opening of the St.Gotthard pass includes the old Tremola road?
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 03:06 PM   #1288
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I don't know. What is sure is that the old road until Motto Bartola (here) is opened year round because there is a military base. The new parallel new road is closed in winter, however, even the part to Motto Bartola.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 03:10 PM   #1289
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Good to know. 2009 and 2010 were particularly harsh, many passes in Italian Alps just south of the border were also opened late.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 01:31 PM   #1290
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Some statistics from different sources.

Passenger traffic

Road traffic (in number of passengers) after the road boom in the 1950s is growing slower since the 1990s.



This graphic showing passengers*km is similar, the road boom then a slower growth.



Walking was estimated at 7.8 billions pkm in 1950 and 5.4 in 2008, while bicycles accounted for 1.5 and 2.0 pkm respectively. The number of bicycles has grown from 1.8 to 4.2 millions. Traffic on all means of transport grew from 15 billions pkm in 1950 to 29 in 1960, 98 in 1990 and 117 in 2008 and is still growing. Predictions are for a faster growth in percentage on public than on private transport.

Between 2000 and 2008, rail passenger traffic grew from 12.6 to 18.6 billions pkm (+47%), road public transport from 4.6 to 5.4 (+17%), non motorized traffic from 6.5 to 7.5 (+15%), and road traffic from 83.2 to 90.0 (+8%). The rail growth is due to the Rail 2000 project which focused on upgrading existing infrastructure rather than building new railways (new built lines in these 8 years don't exceed 100 km, spread over the whole nation, the longest new single line being only 45 km long, the Lötschberg base tunnel is not counted in these 100 km).

Freight traffic

Freight traffic in tonnes shows a strange peak for road in 1990, beside that the number of tonnes did not grew between 1980 and 2004.



This graphic (tonnes*km) shows a general growth and a higher proportion for railways than the preceding graphic, meaning that the distance goods travelled is increasing unlike their weight (an increase in volume rather than in weight is also likely). Rail traffic in 2008 accounted for 27% of non transit traffic (internal, import, export) or 44% of all traffic.



Transalpine freight traffic

Railway in 2008 carried 64% of all transalpine goods or 73% of north-south transit. 75% of transalpine freight in Switzerland was in transit. In millions of tonnes, traffic on the four main passes in 2008 was:
Great St Bernard: 0.7 on road (57.000 trucks)
Simplon: 0.9 on road, 10 on rail (82.000 trucks)
Gotthard: 11 on road, 15.5 on rail (973.000 trucks)
San Bernardino: 1.8 on road (163.000 trucks)
After the introduction of the road tax (LSVA/RPLP/TTPCP) and the weight limit increase from 28 to 40 tonnes the number of trucks fell from 1.404.000 in 2000 to 1.275.000 in 2008, while the number of tonnes transported increased from 8.9 to 14.4 millions. This was possible partly because of the higher load per truck and partly because empty trucks pay the same as loaded vehicles. Transporters are thus encouraged to avoid as much as possible empty truck trips.
Freight traffic on other passes crossing the main watershed is negligible even if it does exist (Maloja, Lucomagno, and even on the Bernina railway).

Millions of tonnes, orange = rail, blue = road.

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Old May 8th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #1291
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Some other statistics, from http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/f...icationID=3550

Firstly, the main flows of traffic of private cars in 2007 (übrige Relationen = other traffics).



Average daily traffic on railways.



Variation of rail passengers by day (workday, saturday, sunday, sat and sun, average of all days).



Type of flows for railways.



Comparison of types of traffic and reasons for travelling.

Strasse = road, Schiene = rail

Verkehrsart = type of traffic
Ziel-/Quellverkehr = traffic from/to switzerland, mainly from/to Italy (I'm not sure which German term refers to traffic exiting Switzerland and which to traffic entering)
Transitverkehr = transit traffic
Binnenverkehr = internal traffic

Fahrtzweck = reasons (commuters, business, shopping and leisure)

Only private cars and long distance trains of the four main passes are considered, no buses and transalpine regional trains.

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Old May 8th, 2011, 11:59 AM   #1292
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I assume Ticino is a major tourist destination for the Swiss themselves. A nice weekend away in subtropical Ticino. I can think of worse destinations
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Old May 8th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #1293
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Yes:



AADT 2008, red=pass, blue=tunnel, yellow=total, all kind of vehicles.

A graphic for trains would be similar, on peak days on holidays there are three or four trains per hour in the peak direction, with 7 to 14 coaches each, usually on Sundays 14 pm to 18 pm. Peak is more spread over time on Fridays evening and Saturdays morning.

But with snow it's better:

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Old May 8th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #1294
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The best vehicle on a Swiss road (Chur, GR):









Four lanes without median on the A13 (this is from a video, I have other photos but as ChrisZwolle had already published many picture of this motorway I don't think it is worth to publish them):

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Old May 9th, 2011, 06:21 PM   #1295
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This is the best vehicle on a swiss road
The Furka Dampflok


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Old May 10th, 2011, 06:01 PM   #1296
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The new train for the Simplon shuttle is being tested with military trucks: http://www.seegerweb.ch/index.php?op...id=26#category

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Boring of the third of four tunnels for the Biel-Bienne bypass is nearly finished. The last tunnel will be bored before summer 2012, and the bypass opened by 2016.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 12:21 AM   #1297
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(from post 696, page 35)

I'm trying to write an index of this thread...I haven't listed posts from page17 to 35 yet.

Motorway projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=841
Types of national roads http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=953
Transport related referendums http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=967
Roads transfered to the Confederation http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1023
Driving through mountains http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...510148&page=57
Rail & road traffic predictions http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1182
Traffic statistics http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...9#post77289839 (plus the following pages)
Luzzone dam tunnel system http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post38563442 and http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post75997041
A railway (Arosabahn) on city streets in Chur http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1295

Rapperswil - St. Gallen http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...4&postcount=38 (pmaciej7)
Around Basel http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...3&postcount=48 (pmaceiej7)
Zürich bypass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...1&postcount=56
Zürich bypass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=337
Simplon Pass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...5&postcount=57 (ChrisZwolle)
Simplon Shuttle http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...1&postcount=61
Bernina Pass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...0&postcount=65
28% slope http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=137
Video around Grindelwald http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=295
Zürich projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1078 (and following pages)
Lucomagno-Lukmanier Pass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...510148&page=55
From Göschenen to the Furka shuttle http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...7#post69498247
Lucomagno-Oberalp passes photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post71232751 (plus the following pages)
Visp-Täsch-Zermatt http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...3#post74951433

A1 Zürich-Lausanne http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=219 (nils16)
A1 shoulder running http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=892
A2 drawing and photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=227
A2 Faido-Airolo http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=698
A2 Lugano-Chiasso http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...0#post43622310
A2 Gotthard-Chiasso http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=780 and http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...510148&page=41
A2 Luzern bypass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post60133711
A2 photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1052
A3 in Winter http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=281 (nils16)
A3 Sargans-Zürich http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=330
A4 Axenstrasse http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=770
A4 Shaffhausen Miniautobahn http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...9#post65799959
A5 photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post64185071
A5-A20 Neuchâtel http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...9#post66173839
A6 Rawil motorway (never built) http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...510148&page=42
A9 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=302
A9 Villeneuve-Vevey http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...5#post65903925 (plus the following pages)
A12 photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=906
A13 Roveredo&street running http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=703
A13 photos http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post73925671
A53 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=321 (nils16)

Zürich south bypass http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...7#post45994267

Gotthard tunnel http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...510148&page=36
Munt la Schera tunnel http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=124

Italian SS33 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=278 (southern access to the Simplon)

Some pictures
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=150 (nils16)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=197 (nils16)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=216 (nils16)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=318 (nils16)

Some videos
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=165 (nils16)
A2 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=224 (nils16)

Projects around Zürich http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=250

Geotag http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=287
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Old May 11th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #1298
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wow, great job Coccodrillo!
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Freight traffic statistics: http://www.are.admin.ch/themen/verke...x.html?lang=en
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Old May 13th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #1300
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Those graphs on traffic growths are pretty misleading, with nonuniform increcements on the horizontal axis. They should either have stretched them out or provide another set for the last 10 years.
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