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Old December 23rd, 2011, 05:32 PM   #1521
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Well, tunnel safety is very important. Tunnel fires are the worst possible road disaster, so a broken car is really a safety issue as it precludes prompt rescue and firefighting should a fire start at the same time.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 04:22 PM   #1522
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Snow on the A13 near San Bernardino tunnel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywFF8psMK0

Trucks are banned on both A2 and A13.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #1523
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A bicycle rider was caught by the police, last 29th December, riding inside San Gottardo tunnel. He managed to cover 6 of the 17 km of the tunnel before a truck driver spotted (and photographed) him and reported to the police.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #1524
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A bicycle rider was caught by the police, last 29th December, riding inside San Gottardo tunnel. He managed to cover 6 of the 17 km of the tunnel before a truck driver spotted (and photographed) him and reported to the police.
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2012...1/?ref=HRESS-6
Who would want to cycle through a busy, seventeen km tunnel..? Pure insanity.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #1525
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some people love to take it to the limit, I would be scared to death with all those cars and trucks, not to mention the fact that my lungs would have turned black by the time I reached the end. Fortunately he was arrested and there was not an accident.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #1526
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Some mistakes, as quite usual with journalists

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Lo spericolato personaggio ha percorso ben 6 km di quello che - con i suoi 17 km di lunghezza - è attualmente il secondo tunnel stradale più lungo del mondo.
It's the third longest road tunnel, not the second, after the Laerdal and Zhongnanshan.

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Probabilmente l'uomo ha scelto di imboccare la calda e coperta galleria per evitare di dover pedalare sotto la neve che, in quel momento, stava cadendo abbondante sul celebre passo del San Gottardo.
He has not taken the tunnel because it was snowing on the pass road, but because this road is completely submersed by snow in winter. He and his bicycle could have taken a train between Göschenen and Airolo (or viceversa?) instead.

By the way, also the Furka and Oberalp pass railways are now completely blocked - even if the first traverse the pass with a 15.4 km tunnel; blocking also the two car shuttles; Göschenen-Andermatt road is also closed and Andermatt and Hospental villages are accessible only by train (because the railway is nearly 100% covered by snow shelters).
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Old January 9th, 2012, 10:50 PM   #1527
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I have very nice memories of Andermatt - but on a sunny, stunning August morning after I had driven through the Fürkapass :p
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #1528
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Some mistakes, as quite usual with journalists
It's surprising how often you read mistakes like this. They often base those stats of the biggest/widest/highest/longest/largest on Europe + North America and usually at least 5 years outdated.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #1529
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Göschenen-Andermatt road is also closed and Andermatt and Hospental villages are accessible only by train (because the railway is nearly 100% covered by snow shelters).
This means that there are villages that don't have road access at all in wintertime?
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #1530
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It's surprising how often you read mistakes like this. They often base those stats of the biggest/widest/highest/longest/largest on Europe + North America and usually at least 5 years outdated.
I think those mistakes are quite harmless.
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I think those mistakes are quite harmless.
Still, when presenting facts, you better get them right, especially in this day and age of megaprojects.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 09:22 AM   #1532
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This means that there are villages that don't have road access at all in wintertime?
Only these days.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #1533
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This means that there are villages that don't have road access at all in wintertime?
It's a special situation, I think the last time we had that much snow in the Alps was in 1999.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 01:16 PM   #1534
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Well, I found out that Zermatt is home of 6000 people but there are no roads going there! But they seems like it because it make the town quiet and clean! I wonder if there are other towns in the developed world with no road access (except islands, off course). In Italy the only one is Chamois, in Aosta Valley, home of only 100 people and accessible by foot or cable-car only.
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Well, I found out that Zermatt is home of 6000 people but there are no roads going there! But they seems like it because it make the town quiet and clean! I wonder if there are other towns in the developed world with no road access (except islands, off course). In Italy the only one is Chamois, in Aosta Valley, home of only 100 people and accessible by foot or cable-car only.
Zermatt is a mountain resort, and the costs of hauling merchandise and supplies there are extremely high anyway. There is, indeed, a road reaching Zermatt but it is unfairly closed to road traffic to boost the income of the cable car company.

Murren, Gimmelwald and other villages on the Lauterbrunnen valley are also "car-free" in the sense of not being directly accessible by roads, but they have nearby parking lots from where you take a cable car. They should convert the villages into resorts IMO.
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Most of those villages would be completely dead if there was no tourist infrastructure or highly protectionist policy of locally produced agricultural products.
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That's not only true for those villages, but for about any village in the alps.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 05:39 PM   #1538
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That's not only true for those villages, but for about any village in the alps.
True. Mayrhofen is a village, pop. around 3500, but with facilities to accomodate 10.000 tourists. Nearly all houses are hotels, guesthouses, restaurants, shops and other facilities for winter and summer vacations.
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True. Mayrhofen is a village, pop. around 3500, but with facilities to accomodate 10.000 tourists. Nearly all houses are hotels, guesthouses, restaurants, shops and other facilities for winter and summer vacations.
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Doesn't it feel desolated to live in a place that is empty during the transitions (April-May, October-December)? I had a friend who lived in a place near Cortina d'Ampezzo and hated the feeling of a "ghost town" during the low seasons, particularly the one preceding the winter when it rains a lot and days progressively shorter.
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Doesn't it feel desolated to live in a place that is empty during the transitions (April-May, October-December)? I had a friend who lived in a place near Cortina d'Ampezzo and hated the feeling of a "ghost town" during the low seasons, particularly the one preceding the winter when it rains a lot and days progressively shorter.
Not at all. There are always Dutch and Germans about, but it's nice to have the village to yourself again once in a while. Most restaurants and hotels are closed, but a few remain open. The cable car's aren't running, but the spring is always really mild and at times hot here. Last April we've hit 37C, while the skiing season wasn't even finished yet. So I take the dogs into the mountains, which isn't conglegated by Germans then. Also in autumn we usually have warm sunny weather. It get's chillier at 5pm, when the sun hides behind the mountains. The Mayrhofen area is right on the Italian border, but Italy is only accesible on foot. We still get their weather, and I enjoy Mayrhofen any time of the year. Also now, now that we got so much of the white stuff, that they've started dumbing loads in the river.
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